(01-10-2017 09:53 PM)pesik Wrote:  UConn
08/31 - Holy Cross
09/16 - at Virginia
10/28 - Missouri
11/18 - Boston College

projection 1-3 (rebuilding year)

Is that win over Holy Cross or Virginia?

(01-11-2017 07:44 AM)Phil Lacio Wrote:  

(01-11-2017 07:40 AM)Chappy Wrote:  So a safety on an XP try is 1 point?

Bingo.

I did not know that. Thanks for the edumacation!

(01-10-2017 09:53 PM)pesik Wrote:  East:

Cincy
08/31 - Austin Peay
09/09 - at Michigan
09/16 - at Miami (OH)
09/30 - Marshall

projection 3-1

ECU
09/02 - James Madison
09/09 - at West Virginia
09/16 - Virginia Tech
10/21 - BYU

Projection 0-4 (dont attack me just stating a realistic possibilities )

Temple
09/02 - at Notre Dame
09/09 - Villanova
09/16 - UMass
10/21 - at Army

Projection 2-2 (army was a tossup, i picked them because theyre at home)

UCF Knights
09/02 - FIU
09/16 - Georgia Tech
09/23 - at Maryland
09/30 - Maine

Projection 3-1 (im calling a p5 upset)

UConn
08/31 - Holy Cross
09/16 - at Virginia
10/28 - Missouri
11/18 - Boston College

projection 1-3 (rebuilding year)

USF
08/26 - at San Jose State
09/02 - Stony Brook
09/16 - Illinois
10/14 - UMass

projection 4-0


West

Houston
09/02 - at UTSA
09/09 - at Arizona
09/16 - Rice
09/23 - Texas Tech

projection 4-0

Memphis
09/02 - ULM
09/16 - UCLA
09/23 - Southern Illinois
11/18 - at Georgia State


projection 4-0 (the big symbolic AAC win next year comes from memphis)

Navy
09/02 - at Florida Atlantic
10/07 - Air Force
11/18 - at Notre Dame
12/09 - Army (at Philadelphia, PA)

Projection 3-1..3 were tossups

SMU
09/02 - Stephen F. Austin
09/09 - North Texas
09/16 - at TCU
09/23 - Arkansas State

Projection 3-1 (beat either ark state or tcu in a upset)

Tulane
09/02 - Grambling State
09/16 - at Oklahoma
09/23 - Army
TBA - at FIU

Projection 2-2

Tulsa
09/02 - at Oklahoma State
09/09 - UL Lafayette
09/16 - at Toledo
09/23 - New Mexico

Projection- 2-2 (opinion might change after tulsas spring game)

USF's OOC schedule looks weak. That is unfortunate for them. SJSU will be rebuilding and has no cache. UMASS, while more talented than others think will only win 4-5 games, and Illinois will be predicted to finish last in the Big 10.

(01-11-2017 07:47 AM)fanhood Wrote:  USF's OOC schedule looks weak. That is unfortunate for them. SJSU will be rebuilding and has no cache. UMASS, while more talented than others think will only win 4-5 games, and Illinois will be predicted to finish last in the Big 10.

USF is going to need to face some ranked teams in conference to earn respect with that OOC slate. Their cross over games are Houston, Tulsa and Tulane.

(01-10-2017 09:53 PM)pesik Wrote:  East:

Cincy
08/31 - Austin Peay
09/09 - at Michigan
09/16 - at Miami (OH)
09/30 - Marshall

projection 3-1

ECU
09/02 - James Madison
09/09 - at West Virginia
09/16 - Virginia Tech
10/21 - BYU

Projection 0-4 (dont attack me just stating a realistic possibilities )

Temple
09/02 - at Notre Dame
09/09 - Villanova
09/16 - UMass
10/21 - at Army

Projection 2-2 (army was a tossup, i picked them because theyre at home)

UCF Knights
09/02 - FIU
09/16 - Georgia Tech
09/23 - at Maryland
09/30 - Maine

Projection 3-1 (im calling a p5 upset)

UConn
08/31 - Holy Cross
09/16 - at Virginia
10/28 - Missouri
11/18 - Boston College

projection 1-3 (rebuilding year)

USF
08/26 - at San Jose State
09/02 - Stony Brook
09/16 - Illinois
10/14 - UMass

projection 4-0


West

Houston
09/02 - at UTSA
09/09 - at Arizona
09/16 - Rice
09/23 - Texas Tech

projection 4-0

Memphis
09/02 - ULM
09/16 - UCLA
09/23 - Southern Illinois
11/18 - at Georgia State


projection 4-0 (the big symbolic AAC win next year comes from memphis)

Navy
09/02 - at Florida Atlantic
10/07 - Air Force
11/18 - at Notre Dame
12/09 - Army (at Philadelphia, PA)

Projection 3-1..3 were tossups

SMU
09/02 - Stephen F. Austin
09/09 - North Texas
09/16 - at TCU
09/23 - Arkansas State

Projection 3-1 (beat either ark state or tcu in a upset)

Tulane
09/02 - Grambling State
09/16 - at Oklahoma
09/23 - Army
TBA - at FIU

Projection 2-2

Tulsa
09/02 - at Oklahoma State
09/09 - UL Lafayette
09/16 - at Toledo
09/23 - New Mexico

Projection- 2-2 (opinion might change after tulsas spring game)

The Navy prediction seems reasonable to me. We could go 4-0 or we could go 0-4.... but 3-1 is a common sense projection

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(01-11-2017 07:47 AM)fanhood Wrote:  USF's OOC schedule looks weak. That is unfortunate for them. SJSU will be rebuilding and has no cache. UMASS, while more talented than others think will only win 4-5 games, and Illinois will be predicted to finish last in the Big 10.

WMU proved that if you go undefeated you can have a weak slate and still make the access bowl. As long as USF wins everything takes care of itself. Same could also be said for your Aztecs going into next season, though admittedly yalls schedule is superior.

(01-11-2017 07:45 AM)Chappy Wrote:  

(01-11-2017 07:44 AM)Phil Lacio Wrote:  

(01-11-2017 07:40 AM)Chappy Wrote:  So a safety on an XP try is 1 point?

Bingo.

I did not know that. Thanks for the edumacation!

You're welcome; also in that same extra point scenario, a safety can be charged against the defense and 1 point awarded to the offense, if during the failed extra point attempt, the defense gains possession of the ball, but ends up down inside of their endzone, loses it out of bounds in their endzone (after possessing it), or anyone on the defense swats it out of bounds in the endzone after a defensive player loses possession of it.

(01-11-2017 08:58 AM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  

(01-11-2017 08:11 AM)Phil Lacio Wrote:  

(01-11-2017 07:45 AM)Chappy Wrote:  

(01-11-2017 07:44 AM)Phil Lacio Wrote:  

(01-11-2017 07:40 AM)Chappy Wrote:  So a safety on an XP try is 1 point?

Bingo.

I did not know that. Thanks for the edumacation!

You're welcome; also in that same extra point scenario, a safety can be charged against the defense and 1 point awarded to the offense, if during the failed extra point attempt, the defense gains possession of the ball, but ends up down inside of their endzone, loses it out of bounds in their endzone (after possessing it), or anyone on the defense swats it out of bounds in the endzone after a defensive player loses possession of it.

So a team can score a point but a 3-1 score is impossible, correct?

Correct; in order for the defense to score that one point PAT safety, a touchdown would have to have been scored by the offense (i.e. a score of 6-1).

I'll play:

East:

Cincy
08/31 - Austin Peay
09/09 - at Michigan
09/16 - at Miami (OH)
09/30 - Marshall

projection 2-2 (New Coach. Counts for one loss not foreseen.)

ECU
09/02 - James Madison
09/09 - at West Virginia
09/16 - Virginia Tech
10/21 - BYU

Projection 1-3

Temple
09/02 - at Notre Dame
09/09 - Villanova
09/16 - UMass
10/21 - at Army

Projection 2-2 (UMASS is better than people think, Army game will be tough)

UCF Knights
09/02 - FIU
09/16 - Georgia Tech
09/23 - at Maryland
09/30 - Maine

Projection 3-1 (UCF wins at Maryland)

UConn
08/31 - Holy Cross
09/16 - at Virginia
10/28 - Missouri
11/18 - Boston College

projection 1-3

USF
08/26 - at San Jose State
09/02 - Stony Brook
09/16 - Illinois
10/14 - UMass

projection 4-0


West

Houston
09/02 - at UTSA
09/09 - at Arizona
09/16 - Rice
09/23 - Texas Tech

projection 2-2 (Loss to Texas Tech, and upset on the road in San Antonio)

Memphis
09/02 - ULM
09/16 - UCLA
09/23 - Southern Illinois
11/18 - at Georgia State


projection 3-1

Navy
09/02 - at Florida Atlantic
10/07 - Air Force
11/18 - at Notre Dame
12/09 - Army (at Philadelphia, PA)

Projection 2-2

SMU
09/02 - Stephen F. Austin
09/09 - North Texas
09/16 - at TCU
09/23 - Arkansas State

Projection 3-1 (North Texas and Arkansas State will be challenging, but I will go with SMU)

Tulane
09/02 - Grambling State
09/16 - at Oklahoma
09/23 - Army
TBA - at FIU

Projection 1-3

Tulsa
09/02 - at Oklahoma State
09/09 - UL Lafayette
09/16 - at Toledo
09/23 - New Mexico

Projection- 2-2 (OSU is a loss, New Mexico and Toledo will be very challenging as well. ULL is no slouch. Damn, that is deceptively a very hard schedule).

(01-11-2017 08:06 AM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  

(01-11-2017 07:47 AM)fanhood Wrote:  USF's OOC schedule looks weak. That is unfortunate for them. SJSU will be rebuilding and has no cache. UMASS, while more talented than others think will only win 4-5 games, and Illinois will be predicted to finish last in the Big 10.

WMU proved that if you go undefeated you can have a weak slate and still make the access bowl. As long as USF wins everything takes care of itself. Same could also be said for your Aztecs going into next season, though admittedly yalls schedule is superior.

WMU got in because the AAC & MWC champs each had 3 losses.

USF's weak OOC gives them little room for error. They could get jumped by a MWC team with an equal record or a G3 team with a better record.

(01-11-2017 09:34 AM)MechaKnight Wrote:  

(01-11-2017 08:06 AM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  

(01-11-2017 07:47 AM)fanhood Wrote:  USF's OOC schedule looks weak. That is unfortunate for them. SJSU will be rebuilding and has no cache. UMASS, while more talented than others think will only win 4-5 games, and Illinois will be predicted to finish last in the Big 10.

WMU proved that if you go undefeated you can have a weak slate and still make the access bowl. As long as USF wins everything takes care of itself. Same could also be said for your Aztecs going into next season, though admittedly yalls schedule is superior.

WMU got in because the AAC & MWC champs each had 3 losses.

USF's weak OOC gives them little room for error. They could get jumped by a MWC team with an equal record or a G3 team with a better record.

If Navy would have won vs Army and Temple, they would have gotten the spot over WMU. They were ahead of them before Championship weekend.

(01-11-2017 09:41 AM)MercerCo_BearCat Wrote:  

(01-11-2017 09:34 AM)MechaKnight Wrote:  

(01-11-2017 08:06 AM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  

(01-11-2017 07:47 AM)fanhood Wrote:  USF's OOC schedule looks weak. That is unfortunate for them. SJSU will be rebuilding and has no cache. UMASS, while more talented than others think will only win 4-5 games, and Illinois will be predicted to finish last in the Big 10.

WMU proved that if you go undefeated you can have a weak slate and still make the access bowl. As long as USF wins everything takes care of itself. Same could also be said for your Aztecs going into next season, though admittedly yalls schedule is superior.

WMU got in because the AAC & MWC champs each had 3 losses.

USF's weak OOC gives them little room for error. They could get jumped by a MWC team with an equal record or a G3 team with a better record.

If Navy would have won vs Army and Temple, they would have gotten the spot over WMU. They were ahead of them before Championship weekend.

Navy COULD have gotten the spot. We were behind WMU.
Committee said that they had to consider it, but I for one am not convinced that Navy would have gotten the nod. Undefeated is undefeated, and that would still have been a 2-loss Navy team.

USF's 2017 OOC schedule next season is still weak. Yes.

In other breaking news:

USF will start the season higher ranked than any non P5 school. If they take care of business they will be fine. Only way they get jumped is if they lose or someone like SDSU upsets their two P% opponnens.

Respect to ECU for the OOC schedule.

(01-11-2017 09:34 AM)MechaKnight Wrote:  

(01-11-2017 08:06 AM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  

(01-11-2017 07:47 AM)fanhood Wrote:  USF's OOC schedule looks weak. That is unfortunate for them. SJSU will be rebuilding and has no cache. UMASS, while more talented than others think will only win 4-5 games, and Illinois will be predicted to finish last in the Big 10.

WMU proved that if you go undefeated you can have a weak slate and still make the access bowl. As long as USF wins everything takes care of itself. Same could also be said for your Aztecs going into next season, though admittedly yalls schedule is superior.

WMU got in because the AAC & MWC champs each had 3 losses.

USF's weak OOC gives them little room for error. They could get jumped by a MWC team with an equal record or a G3 team with a better record.

Are G3 teams schools that are sponsored by Gatorade or something? What is this you speak of?

(01-11-2017 10:47 AM)SteveUCF19 Wrote:  Respect to ECU for the OOC schedule.

It is solid as f...

(01-11-2017 10:36 AM)Cubanbull Wrote:  USF will start the season higher ranked than any non P5 school. If they take care of business they will be fine. Only way they get jumped is if they lose or someone like SDSU upsets their two P% opponnens.

committee cares about schedule, and you dont play memphis or navy..most mwc have better schedules ..you'll be top 25 but low 20's, and easily jumped by boise or sdsu if undefeated or 1 loss


if houston flops, your schedule is dead

At the end of the day, you have to play and beat whoever is on your schedule. Coming into 2016, who would have guessed that UH would beat both a #3 ranked OU team and a #5 ranked Louisville team, go 4-0 in their OOC games and still not be the West representative for the AAC Championship Game and lose 4 games?

Stuff happens. Temple won the conference and lost to Army and a 6-6 Wake Forest.

In all likelihood, USF will not go undefeated in the regular season and nor will SDSU or BSU.

So if we toss out teams with 1st year coaches, that leaves games vs. P5:

ECU: @WVU, VTech
UCF: GTech, @Maryland
Memphis: UCLA
Navy: @ND
SMU: @TCU
Tulane: @OU
Tulsa: @OKSt

Realistically there's what maybe 2/3 wins in there. Throw in 1/2 from USF/Houston and the conference is maybe 3-5 wins v P5. That's way below the last couple seasons right?