Somebody has to be the voice out here in the Oklahoma P5 wilderness and to stand up for the G5.

Whoever on this board mentioned that a G5 playoff would assign the G5 to a permanent ghetto, thank you. I completely stole that idea and ran with it. It's like bluesman Guy Davis once told me about how you become a good bluesman: "Steal everything you can and rework and make it your own!"

http://www.enidnews.com/sports/football/...c829c.html

(01-09-2017 03:24 PM)HuronDave Wrote:  Somebody has to be the voice out here in the Oklahoma P5 wilderness and to stand up for the G5.

Whoever on this board mentioned that a G5 playoff would assign the G5 to a permanent ghetto, thank you. I completely stole that idea and ran with it. It's like bluesman Guy Davis once told me about how you become a good bluesman: "Steal everything you can and rework and make it your own!"

http://www.enidnews.com/sports/football/...c829c.html

P5 wilderness? Isn't Oklahoma State a G5 program? I mean they got beat by a mediocre MAC team on their home field, right? So there's an Oklahoma G5 program that should be concerned about this.

Touche!

I think for in-depth college football fans, it'd be fun to see -- but the problem is, most fans are not in-depth G5-followers... only paying some attention to the creme de la creme of G5, and that's about it. It would bury the G5 doing that.

You'd only consider a G5 playoff if/when we get to the point that a G5 can't really make it into an expanded playoff that's not going to expand enough to allow one in the near future -- and regular bowls having virtually no P5 vs G5 matchups... all while OOC play from most P5s push for more P5 vs P5 matchups.

Going G5-Playoff would only Make for such a separation -- where it WOULD LITERALLY become another sub-division.

Essentially, that is what the NIU guy is asking for -- the G5 to become another sub-division... that benefits #2-#8 G5 teams every year as it's only benefit (being in a playoff), while taking a step Down for the #1 G5 team. And only hurting ALL G5s when focused on the whole season. No thanks.

Miami's Athletic Director said yesterday in an interview on our website that he was 100% against any talk of a G5 playoffand so is the MAC Commish and vast majority of rest of G5. AAC Commish Aresco said the same thing.

(01-10-2017 07:29 AM)Miami (Oh) Yeah ! Wrote:  Miami's Athletic Director said yesterday in an interview on our website that he was 100% against any talk of a G5 playoffand so is the MAC Commish and vast majority of rest of G5. AAC Commish Aresco said the same thing.

(01-09-2017 03:24 PM)HuronDave Wrote:  Somebody has to be the voice out here in the Oklahoma P5 wilderness and to stand up for the G5.

Whoever on this board mentioned that a G5 playoff would assign the G5 to a permanent ghetto, thank you. I completely stole that idea and ran with it. It's like bluesman Guy Davis once told me about how you become a good bluesman: "Steal everything you can and rework and make it your own!"

http://www.enidnews.com/sports/football/...c829c.html

You must get some crazy Okie hate-mail......

Spot on Dave, self segregation is NOT the right choice

All this would do is push the G5 perminately into the FCS and finally create the super 60 which is exactly what the former BCS conferences wanted all along

(01-10-2017 11:01 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  

(01-09-2017 03:24 PM)HuronDave Wrote:  Somebody has to be the voice out here in the Oklahoma P5 wilderness and to stand up for the G5.

Whoever on this board mentioned that a G5 playoff would assign the G5 to a permanent ghetto, thank you. I completely stole that idea and ran with it. It's like bluesman Guy Davis once told me about how you become a good bluesman: "Steal everything you can and rework and make it your own!"

http://www.enidnews.com/sports/football/...c829c.html

You must get some crazy Okie hate-mail......

Oh man.

When I first got here, I was the despised "northerner" or worse, a "yankee." It was funny how people were genuinely offended that an outsider was taking on the job of sports editor at their daily paper.

Typical call was usually somebody shouting at me "we hate you" or "everybody hates you." As if that was going to run me off or that there was actually somebody waiting in the wings to jump at this high-paying (hah) gig.

It's gotten better and I have made some good friends now, but there still are those who think I either hate OSU or OU. They can't fathom that I really don't have a dog in the fight. Anything critical automatically means you hate their team.

Folks aren't used to people in the sports media in this state not being cheerleaders for their teams. They have never been exposed to big market or big city sports coverage that doesn't blow smoke you know where.

When The Oklahoman ran a headline critical of Kevin Durant, it actually ran a huge apology. It's kinda sad.

If they ever had to deal with Detroit or Chicago media, they would be shocked.

And I do admit to the fact that I enjoy tweaking them now and then. Hah!

(01-10-2017 12:34 PM)Nick in Cleveland Wrote:  Spot on Dave, self segregation is NOT the right choice

All this would do is push the G5 perminately into the FCS and finally create the super 60 which is exactly what the former BCS conferences wanted all along

When Division 1-A was created an effort should have been made to organize the bowls more logically.

Take the 10 traditional major bowls (Rose, Holiday, Fiesta, Sun, Cotton, Liberty, Sugar, Peach, Rose, Orange) and give each of the D1A conferences a spot for their champion.

Instead it became organized around establishing a #1 vs. #2 game as the first priority and enough representation from the top conferences at the time to do it. TV deals have driven the boat as getting on TV was a lifeblood and an indicator as to a conference was worthy of being a player.

It was never a secret plan to keep down Colorado St, Houston and Western Michigan. It was a gradual network split in the first few decades of D1A. Once you moved past the Big East there was very little value in the MAC/WAC scraps of the day.

http://www.cbssports.com/college-footbal...obstacles/

(01-10-2017 12:34 PM)Nick in Cleveland Wrote:  Spot on Dave, self segregation is NOT the right choice

All this would do is push the G5 perminately into the FCS and finally create the super 60 which is exactly what the former BCS conferences wanted all along

Might want to take a better look at the neighborhood. We are already there. We just had a team go undefeated in the regular season, beating two P5 teams on the road along the way, and not only did they not sniff the playoff there was talk of them not even getting a January 1 bowl game. Are we just exchanging high fives because nothing has been put down on paper? Is it because they call us G5 and not D1AA? The Super 60 has already happened people.

(02-15-2017 11:09 AM)OUVan Wrote:  

(01-10-2017 12:34 PM)Nick in Cleveland Wrote:  Spot on Dave, self segregation is NOT the right choice

All this would do is push the G5 perminately into the FCS and finally create the super 60 which is exactly what the former BCS conferences wanted all along

Might want to take a better look at the neighborhood. We are already there. We just had a team go undefeated in the regular season, beating two P5 teams on the road along the way, and not only did they not sniff the playoff there was talk of them not even getting a January 1 bowl game. Are we just exchanging high fives because nothing has been put down on paper? Is it because they call us G5 and not D1AA? The Super 60 has already happened people.

Just because WMU beat perennial doormat Illinois and a mediocre Northwestern team on the road doesn't mean they should have been in the playoffs. Granted that was the scheduled given to them, but that's not going to turn heads or gain votes.

(02-15-2017 11:18 AM)utpotts Wrote:  

(02-15-2017 11:09 AM)OUVan Wrote:  

(01-10-2017 12:34 PM)Nick in Cleveland Wrote:  Spot on Dave, self segregation is NOT the right choice

All this would do is push the G5 perminately into the FCS and finally create the super 60 which is exactly what the former BCS conferences wanted all along

Might want to take a better look at the neighborhood. We are already there. We just had a team go undefeated in the regular season, beating two P5 teams on the road along the way, and not only did they not sniff the playoff there was talk of them not even getting a January 1 bowl game. Are we just exchanging high fives because nothing has been put down on paper? Is it because they call us G5 and not D1AA? The Super 60 has already happened people.

Just because WMU beat perennial doormat Illinois and a mediocre Northwestern team on the road doesn't mean they should have been in the playoffs. Granted that was the scheduled given to them, but that's not going to turn heads or gain votes.

Of course, no PAC 12 or BIG 10 belonged in the playoffs either. WMU did
show they could play the BIG 10 West winner tough.

(02-15-2017 11:18 AM)utpotts Wrote:  Just because WMU beat perennial doormat Illinois and a mediocre Northwestern team on the road doesn't mean they should have been in the playoffs. Granted that was the scheduled given to them, but that's not going to turn heads or gain votes.

I'm not arguing they should be in the playoff. The point is that a MAC team is never going to qualify for the playoff. We are being used as scheduling fodder by the P5 and that's it. There are currently 884 colleges that play varsity football. 821 are eligible for a playoff. 63 have no shot at winning a championship other than their conference championship. None. But hey, at least we can say we are D1 and get to go to Mobile or St. Petersburg or Boise every few years.