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What the hell is going on at Louisville?
State senate republicans blindsided democrats by attaching a rider to a bill about dog ownership. The rider abolished the current Board of Trustees per the Governor's wishes and set up a political process for the confirmation of appointments to the board.

http://www.courier-journal.com/story/new.../96205800/

State democrats are worried that the measure will cause Louisville to lose accreditation. It's already on probation with its accrediting body over concerns with political interference.

Should Louisville lose accreditation, it will not be eligible for federal funding, or NCAA participation for that matter.
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Seats on the BOT at Kentucky Universities have always been given to the political cronies of the party in power as payment for donations to the party or campaign. In other words you bought a life time seat on the board at the university. Keep in mind that this is the 1st time since 1929 that Kentucky has a Republican Governor and control of both the House and Senate. So naturally the Dems are squealing cause Matt Bevin is doing what he was elected to do: stir crap up and fix it.

Fear of losing accreditation is the Dems way trying to scare the state populace into pressing Bevin not to take away their seats.

In other words: Bevin is doing what he was elected to do and state Dems are not happy. In the first week of the new state legislature session Bevin and a Republican legislature have:

1. Changed the State Abortion law to make women have ultra-sounds before an abortion is granted.
2. Make Kentucky a Right to Work State thus making Kentucky more business friendly, less Union friendly.
3. Passed the Payment Check Protection Act - Changed the law so businesses don't have to manage Union dues for the Union.
4. Change how boards are appointed at Universities in Kentucky.

Basically Bevin has done more to move Kentucky forward in a year (he was elected in 2016) and a week than the Dems did in the previous 87 years!

As for losing accreditation or membership in the NCAA, it will never happen. Just a scare tactic. David Hawpe Editor of the Courier-Journal is a liberal lapdog.
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(01-09-2017 12:42 PM)CardinalJim Wrote:  Seats on the BOT at Kentucky Universities have always been given to the political cronies of the party in power as payment for donations to the party or campaign. In other words you bought a life time seat on the board at the university. Keep in mind that this is the 1st time since 1929 that Kentucky has a Republican Governor and control of both the House and Senate. So naturally the Dems are squealing cause Matt Bevin is doing what he was elected to do: stir crap up and fix it.

Fear of losing accreditation is the Dems way trying to scare the state populace into pressing Bevin not to take away their seats.

In other words: Bevin is doing what he was elected to do and state Dems are not happy. In the first week of the new state legislature session Bevin and a Republican have:

1. Changed the State Abortion law to make woman have ultra-sounds before an abortion is granted.
2. Make Kentucky a Right to Work State thus making Kentucky more business friendly, less Union friendly.
3. Passed the Payment Check Protection Act - Changed the law so businesses don't have to manage Union dues for the Union.
4. Change how boards are appointed at Universities in Kentucky.

Basically Bevin has done more to move Kentucky forward in a year (he was elected in 2016) and a week than the Dems did in the previous 87 years!

As for losing accreditation or membership in the NCAA, it will never happen.
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BYW

Here is a rundown on the 18 universities / colleges that have had the accreditation stripped since 2000:

http://graphics.wsj.com/table/ACCREDITlost
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Good to know, Jim. That the State of Kentucky is progressing and there's no way NCAA membership is in danger.

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(01-09-2017 12:42 PM)CardinalJim Wrote:  Seats on the BOT at Kentucky Universities have always been given to the political cronies of the party in power as payment for donations to the party or campaign. In other words you bought a life time seat on the board at the university. Keep in mind that this is the 1st time since 1929 that Kentucky has a Republican Governor and control of both the House and Senate. So naturally the Dems are squealing cause Matt Bevin is doing what he was elected to do: stir crap up and fix it.

Fear of losing accreditation is the Dems way trying to scare the state populace into pressing Bevin not to take away their seats.

In other words: Bevin is doing what he was elected to do and state Dems are not happy. In the first week of the new state legislature session Bevin and a Republican legislature have:

1. Changed the State Abortion law to make women have ultra-sounds before an abortion is granted.
2. Make Kentucky a Right to Work State thus making Kentucky more business friendly, less Union friendly.
3. Passed the Payment Check Protection Act - Changed the law so businesses don't have to manage Union dues for the Union.
4. Change how boards are appointed at Universities in Kentucky.

Basically Bevin has done more to move Kentucky forward in a year (he was elected in 2016) and a week than the Dems did in the previous 87 years!

As for losing accreditation or membership in the NCAA, it will never happen. Just a scare tactic. David Hawpe Editor of the Courier-Journal is a liberal lapdog.
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That depends on your definition of forward. I would say right to work is a move backwards for workers rights. Also I know many women who wouldn't say Bevin has their best interests in mind when it comes to their bodies.
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What Jim said ...

The last time the Republicans has a majority in the State House was 1921. (Republican governor came in 1929 as Jim said). But to make matters worse for the Dems is that this majority now is a super majority. The Republicans can pass whatever they want and the Dems can't do anything to stop them. (Having said that, the Dems have had super majorities and all three levels of state political power before too. So the shoe is on the other foot right now. And the Dems aren't sure how to handle it)

As far as U of L is concerned, the Board of Trustees became a cash machine for the state democratic party, where the previous governor (Steve Beshear) appointed seats to those who contributed to the democratic party. As such, the state law that required the Board of Trustees to reflect the appropriate representation of Republican and Democratic parties went out of compliance. And the required minority representation on the Board of Trustees also went out of compliance.

So Bevin moved to strike the old board, and put in his own board, that had the appropriate make up satisfying state law. However, the new state Attorney General (Andy Beshear, son of former governor Steve Beshear) sued Bevin, saying his measures to fix things went out of bounds, and thus the accreditation issues popped up.

So .. you have had a pissing match between current governor and the former governors son, and it has put U of L in an awkward position regarding accreditation.


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God, I hate politics.
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(01-09-2017 12:57 PM)RutgersGuy Wrote:  
(01-09-2017 12:42 PM)CardinalJim Wrote:  Seats on the BOT at Kentucky Universities have always been given to the political cronies of the party in power as payment for donations to the party or campaign. In other words you bought a life time seat on the board at the university. Keep in mind that this is the 1st time since 1929 that Kentucky has a Republican Governor and control of both the House and Senate. So naturally the Dems are squealing cause Matt Bevin is doing what he was elected to do: stir crap up and fix it.

Fear of losing accreditation is the Dems way trying to scare the state populace into pressing Bevin not to take away their seats.

In other words: Bevin is doing what he was elected to do and state Dems are not happy. In the first week of the new state legislature session Bevin and a Republican legislature have:

1. Changed the State Abortion law to make women have ultra-sounds before an abortion is granted.
2. Make Kentucky a Right to Work State thus making Kentucky more business friendly, less Union friendly.
3. Passed the Payment Check Protection Act - Changed the law so businesses don't have to manage Union dues for the Union.
4. Change how boards are appointed at Universities in Kentucky.

Basically Bevin has done more to move Kentucky forward in a year (he was elected in 2016) and a week than the Dems did in the previous 87 years!

As for losing accreditation or membership in the NCAA, it will never happen. Just a scare tactic. David Hawpe Editor of the Courier-Journal is a liberal lapdog.
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That depends on your definition of forward. I would say right to work is a move backwards for workers rights. Also I know many women who wouldn't say Bevin has their best interests in mind when it comes to their bodies.

I guess it depends on what side of the table you sit on with right to work. In no way does this weaken workers rights. It just takes the money out of the equation. Lets see how excited Unions are to fight for employees rights when they don't get paid for it....

In 1993 my Louisville company bought a small company in Sapula, Oklahoma that made fin tubes for the boiler industry. I had the pleasure of speaking to the former shop steward. He said a few years earlier in the late 80's that the company had been on strike for months and one of the suits from the international came around passing out donuts and coffee. He said I pulled him aside and I asked him if these guys that hadn't had a pay check in months, kids were starving, many were losing their homes, if they could get a break on their dues until the strike was settled. He said the international guy laughed and said "are you kidding it's a business, that's not going to happen". That Union was soon voted out.

As for the abortion issue, I don't believe giving women additional information so they can make a more informed decision is a problem.
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Backassward Arkansas amended the State Constitution 80-90 years ago to put an end to the governor terminating the members of boards and firing college presidents so they could sweep their cronies in and punish university employees who piss them off. State senator tried to pass a bill forcing UA to play a minimum number of football games in Little Rock and quickly learned that the amendment barred the legislature from having that authority.

As the union stuff. Welcome to the south, brace yourself for the state falling behind the rest of the nation in earnings.
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(01-09-2017 01:59 PM)CardinalJim Wrote:  As for the abortion issue, I don't believe giving women additional information so they can make a more informed decision is a problem.
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No, no, no, nope, nope. Strictly about religious people wanting to intimidate women. Be honest about it.
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(01-09-2017 02:48 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  As the union stuff. Welcome to the south, brace yourself for the state falling behind the rest of the nation in earnings.


Indiana has been kicking Kentucky's ass economically for decades now, and they're a right to work state. They've also had conservative leadership consistently too, so there's that.

Other non-southern right to work states:

North Dakota, Michigan, Wisconsin, Kansas, Idaho, Iowa, Nebraska, Nevada, Oklahoma, South Dakota, Utah, and Wyoming.
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1. No politics on the CS&CR board.

2. Threatening accreditation over this is a red herring.

3. If the politics keep cropping up this thread heads to the Spin Room.
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(01-09-2017 06:09 PM)JRsec Wrote:  1. No politics on the CS&CR board.

2. Threatening accreditation over this is a red herring.

3. If the politics keep cropping up this thread heads to the Spin Room.

Ironic. The accrediting body says no politics on the Louisville board.

If politics keep cropping up re: the Louisville board, Louisville heads to the NAIA.

And thus the accreditation threat was not a red herring.
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I'm wondering if the end game is to put them in a position where they end up a branch campus of UK. It's pretty well established that they could lose their accreditation - if that happens, the only way to keep the school open would be to put them under the control of another university that is accredited (even then, certain programs may be shut down, and they would be kicked out of the NCAA).
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(01-09-2017 12:42 PM)CardinalJim Wrote:  Seats on the BOT at Kentucky Universities have always been given to the political cronies of the party in power as payment for donations to the party or campaign. In other words you bought a life time seat on the board at the university. Keep in mind that this is the 1st time since 1929 that Kentucky has a Republican Governor and control of both the House and Senate. So naturally the Dems are squealing cause Matt Bevin is doing what he was elected to do: stir crap up and fix it.

Fear of losing accreditation is the Dems way trying to scare the state populace into pressing Bevin not to take away their seats.

In other words: Bevin is doing what he was elected to do and state Dems are not happy. In the first week of the new state legislature session Bevin and a Republican legislature have:

1. Changed the State Abortion law to make women have ultra-sounds before an abortion is granted.
2. Make Kentucky a Right to Work State thus making Kentucky more business friendly, less Union friendly.
3. Passed the Payment Check Protection Act - Changed the law so businesses don't have to manage Union dues for the Union.
4. Change how boards are appointed at Universities in Kentucky.

Basically Bevin has done more to move Kentucky forward in a year (he was elected in 2016) and a week than the Dems did in the previous 87 years!

As for losing accreditation or membership in the NCAA, it will never happen. Just a scare tactic. David Hawpe Editor of the Courier-Journal is a liberal lapdog.
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