College football for the 2016-17 season draws to a close tonight and I thought it is a good time to compare football conferences commonly tagged outside of the P-5.

Realtime RPI (from best to worse)
AAC
Others:
MWC
MAC
Sunbelt
C-USA

Massey Index (12/3/16 - bowl results not included)
AAC
Others:
MWC
FBS - Independent
MAC
Sunbelt
CUSA

Average Attendance:
AAC (31,611)
Others:
MWC (24,142)
CUSA (19,849)
SunBelt (17,993)
MAC (16,062)

Sagarin (as of 1/2/17) (from best to worse)
AAC West
MWC - Mountain
I-A Independant
AAC East
MAC West
Sunbelt
MVC
C-USA West
MWC - West
CUSA - East
MAC - East

I welcome other metics on conference ratings.

(01-09-2017 10:45 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  College football for the 2016-17 season draws to a close tonight and I thought it is a good time to compare football conferences commonly tagged outside of the P-5.

Realtime RPI (from best to worse)
AAC
Others:
MWC
MAC
Sunbelt
C-USA

Massey Index (12/3/16 - bowl results not included)
AAC
Others:
MWC
FBS - Independent
MAC
Sunbelt
CUSA

Average Attendance:
AAC (31,611)
Others:
MWC (24,142)
CUSA (19,849)
SunBelt (17,993)
MAC (16,062)

Sagarin (as of 1/2/17) (from best to worse)
AAC West
MWC - Mountain
I-A Independant
AAC East
MAC West
Sunbelt
MVC
C-USA West
MWC - West
CUSA - East
MAC - East

I welcome other metics on conference ratings.

I believe we will continue to further distance ourselves from the G5 where it counts the most to the networks...TV ratings, attendance and ticket sales; we've been doing this consistently for the duration of each year, unlike on the field, though, unfortunately.

We need the big attendance schools to be good on the field and grow that average attendance further. ECU, I wonder how long they will average 40+ with these mediocre seasons? We need a healthy ECU. It's a good thing for the conference to have a healthy UCF as they can average 40k+.
Memphis will go over 40k with an AAC championship type run.
Who else is capable of 40k+?

(01-09-2017 03:18 PM)tigerjamesc Wrote:  We need the big attendance schools to be good on the field and grow that average attendance further. ECU, I wonder how long they will average 40+ with these mediocre seasons? We need a healthy ECU. It's a good thing for the conference to have a healthy UCF as they can average 40k+.
Memphis will go over 40k with an AAC championship type run.
Who else is capable of 40k+?

Potential AAC 40k+ teams:

UConn (need to win)
Cincy
UCF
Houston
USF
Memphis
Navy (need a larger stadium)
ECU (need to get it back)


AAC teams that can't:

Tulane (boot'em)
Temple
Tulsa
SMU

(01-09-2017 03:26 PM)Phil Lacio Wrote:  

(01-09-2017 03:18 PM)tigerjamesc Wrote:  We need the big attendance schools to be good on the field and grow that average attendance further. ECU, I wonder how long they will average 40+ with these mediocre seasons? We need a healthy ECU. It's a good thing for the conference to have a healthy UCF as they can average 40k+.
Memphis will go over 40k with an AAC championship type run.
Who else is capable of 40k+?

Potential AAC 40k+ teams:

UConn (need to win)
Cincy
UCF
Houston
USF
Memphis
Navy (need a larger stadium)
ECU (need to get it back)


AAC teams that can't:

Tulane (boot'em)
Temple
Tulsa
SMU

not including stadium limitations

temple can, philly is huge and they have a decent sized student body...they did 48k last year...given them 6-7 winning seasons i could see 40k with them

smu could do 40k in 2 seasons..dont be fooled smu has fans they are just extremely bandwagon, they soldout their bball arena after 1 mediocre season, they start every year selling out till the suck comes back

their stadium is onyl 30k, but if they went top 25 next year theyd easily do 40k if the stadium alotted the following year

(01-09-2017 03:48 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(01-09-2017 03:26 PM)Phil Lacio Wrote:  

(01-09-2017 03:18 PM)tigerjamesc Wrote:  We need the big attendance schools to be good on the field and grow that average attendance further. ECU, I wonder how long they will average 40+ with these mediocre seasons? We need a healthy ECU. It's a good thing for the conference to have a healthy UCF as they can average 40k+.
Memphis will go over 40k with an AAC championship type run.
Who else is capable of 40k+?

Potential AAC 40k+ teams:

UConn (need to win)
Cincy
UCF
Houston
USF
Memphis
Navy (need a larger stadium)
ECU (need to get it back)


AAC teams that can't:

Tulane (boot'em)
Temple
Tulsa
SMU

not including stadium limitations

temple can, philly is huge and they have a decent sized student body...they did 48k last year...given them 6-7 winning seasons i could see 40k with them

smu could do 40k in 2 seasons..dont be fooled smu has fans they are just extremely bandwagon, they soldout their bball arena after 1 mediocre season, they start every year selling out till the suck comes back

their stadium is onyl 30k, but if they went top 25 next year theyd easily do 40k is the stadium alotted the following year

Temple averaged 48k last season? Can you link me to that, because every time I see their games, they are lucky to get 24k in attendance on a good day. I swear they have had games, where only 16k showed up.

(01-09-2017 03:26 PM)Phil Lacio Wrote:  

(01-09-2017 03:18 PM)tigerjamesc Wrote:  We need the big attendance schools to be good on the field and grow that average attendance further. ECU, I wonder how long they will average 40+ with these mediocre seasons? We need a healthy ECU. It's a good thing for the conference to have a healthy UCF as they can average 40k+.
Memphis will go over 40k with an AAC championship type run.
Who else is capable of 40k+?

Potential AAC 40k+ teams:

UConn (need to win)
Cincy
UCF
Houston
USF
Memphis
Navy (need a larger stadium)
ECU (need to get it back)


AAC teams that can't:

Tulane (boot'em)
Temple
Tulsa
SMU

ECU needs to get back to winning, but we still average over 44k.

(01-09-2017 03:54 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  

(01-09-2017 03:26 PM)Phil Lacio Wrote:  

(01-09-2017 03:18 PM)tigerjamesc Wrote:  We need the big attendance schools to be good on the field and grow that average attendance further. ECU, I wonder how long they will average 40+ with these mediocre seasons? We need a healthy ECU. It's a good thing for the conference to have a healthy UCF as they can average 40k+.
Memphis will go over 40k with an AAC championship type run.
Who else is capable of 40k+?

Potential AAC 40k+ teams:

UConn (need to win)
Cincy
UCF
Houston
USF
Memphis
Navy (need a larger stadium)
ECU (need to get it back)


AAC teams that can't:

Tulane (boot'em)
Temple
Tulsa
SMU

ECU needs to get back to winning, but we still average over 44k.

That's what I meant by "getting it back;" they used to pull way more than 44k when they were winning.

(01-09-2017 03:18 PM)tigerjamesc Wrote:  We need the big attendance schools to be good on the field and grow that average attendance further. ECU, I wonder how long they will average 40+ with these mediocre seasons? We need a healthy ECU. It's a good thing for the conference to have a healthy UCF as they can average 40k+.
Memphis will go over 40k with an AAC championship type run.
Who else is capable of 40k+?

ECU, UCF, USF, and Memphis get 40k+ when they're winning.

Temple has the capacity at Lincoln Field but hasn't gotten close to 40k without help from Penn St and Notre Dame. They might benefit from a smaller OCS.

Everyone else has stadium capacity <= 40k

(01-09-2017 03:54 PM)Phil Lacio Wrote:  Temple averaged 48k last season? Can you link me to that, because every time I see their games, they are lucky to get 24k in attendance on a good day. I swear they have had games, where only 16k showed up.

Yes, they had PSU and ND averaging over 69K last year. Here is your link:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_Templ...tball_team

(01-09-2017 04:25 PM)sfink16 Wrote:  

(01-09-2017 03:54 PM)Phil Lacio Wrote:  Temple averaged 48k last season? Can you link me to that, because every time I see their games, they are lucky to get 24k in attendance on a good day. I swear they have had games, where only 16k showed up.

Yes, they had PSU and ND averaging over 69K last year. Here is your link:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_Templ...tball_team

Well, other than those two games their home attendance ranged from 28k to 38k; they need their own stadium, because Lincoln is too big and always looks empty when they play.


I guess they could do 40k+ also.

(01-09-2017 04:03 PM)MechaKnight Wrote:  

(01-09-2017 03:18 PM)tigerjamesc Wrote:  We need the big attendance schools to be good on the field and grow that average attendance further. ECU, I wonder how long they will average 40+ with these mediocre seasons? We need a healthy ECU. It's a good thing for the conference to have a healthy UCF as they can average 40k+.
Memphis will go over 40k with an AAC championship type run.
Who else is capable of 40k+?

ECU, UCF, USF, and Memphis get 40k+ when they're winning.

Temple has the capacity at Lincoln Field but hasn't gotten close to 40k without help from Penn St and Notre Dame. They might benefit from a smaller OCS.

Everyone else has stadium capacity <= 40k

ECU gets 40k when they're 3-7, playing in the rain, and havent shown a pulse in months

(01-09-2017 04:43 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  

(01-09-2017 04:03 PM)MechaKnight Wrote:  

(01-09-2017 03:18 PM)tigerjamesc Wrote:  We need the big attendance schools to be good on the field and grow that average attendance further. ECU, I wonder how long they will average 40+ with these mediocre seasons? We need a healthy ECU. It's a good thing for the conference to have a healthy UCF as they can average 40k+.
Memphis will go over 40k with an AAC championship type run.
Who else is capable of 40k+?

ECU, UCF, USF, and Memphis get 40k+ when they're winning.

Temple has the capacity at Lincoln Field but hasn't gotten close to 40k without help from Penn St and Notre Dame. They might benefit from a smaller OCS.

Everyone else has stadium capacity <= 40k

ECU gets 40k when they're 3-7, playing in the rain, and havent shown a pulse in months

Amazing - the envy of the conference.

If the results on the field ever warranted it, Tulane would be able to use Superdome in a heart beat. The Saints owners, the Bensons, are big time boosters.

Once upon a time when the Dome used to be packed for Tulane games:



The good ole days of 80k on campus: