Anyone tell her that "I'm with her" doesn't apply to her and that pant suits are passé?

(01-09-2017 09:54 PM)ODU1986 Wrote:  I think its irrelevant how long she, or anyone else, has been in their position. The only measuring stick should be success.

I agree with this and if you have a dynamic leader who has the will to fight for what's best for you, then you want to keep that person forever. Terry Holland comes to mind, and I think the ECU folks will admit that since he left their new AD isn't really filling the shoes left for him in the AD office.

Judy cares, but she's ran out of ideas on how to fix the issues. Now, with football under her belt and her desire to not make waves, she's outlived her usefulness as Charlotte's AD. Now she's coasting to a safe retirement; and since we have a Chancellor doing the same thing, no one is going to force her to step down.

This type of job, when you're actually trying to improve things, requires a great deal of fire in the belly. Judy and Phil have no desire to make Niner sports more than what it is now. We're stuck here till they both retire, because our "big fish" donors LOVE them both.

(01-09-2017 10:01 PM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  

(01-09-2017 09:54 PM)ODU1986 Wrote:  I think its irrelevant how long she, or anyone else, has been in their position. The only measuring stick should be success.

I agree with this and if you have a dynamic leader who has the will to fight for what's best for you, then you want to keep that person forever. Terry Holland comes to mind, and I think the ECU folks will admit that since he left their new AD isn't really filling the shoes left for him in the AD office.

Judy cares, but she's ran out of ideas on how to fix the issues. Now, with football under her belt and her desire to not make waves, she's outlived her usefulness as Charlotte's AD. Now she's coasting to a safe retirement; and since we have a Chancellor doing the same thing, no one is going to force her to step down.

This type of job, when you're actually trying to improve things, requires a great deal of fire in the belly. Judy and Phil have no desire to make Niner sports more than what it is now. We're stuck here till they both retire, because our "big fish" donors LOVE them both.

Sounds eerily similar to UTEP's situation.

Bob Stull is 71 and has been the AD for 19 years. He was a successful football coach at UTEP for 3 years in the 80's and then moved on.

Dr. Diana Natalicio is 77 and has been president of UTEP for 29 years and had done very good things for UTEP's campus, academics and research but athletics obviously take a back seat.

It's entirely possible that the two have become good friends and until the president decides to retire, nothing likely will change. No indication she is ready to do that but the age factor has to kick in before too long.

The president is getting a large dose of unhappy fan emails lately and one can only hope it has some affect.

(01-10-2017 09:56 AM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  

(01-09-2017 10:01 PM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  

(01-09-2017 09:54 PM)ODU1986 Wrote:  I think its irrelevant how long she, or anyone else, has been in their position. The only measuring stick should be success.

I agree with this and if you have a dynamic leader who has the will to fight for what's best for you, then you want to keep that person forever. Terry Holland comes to mind, and I think the ECU folks will admit that since he left their new AD isn't really filling the shoes left for him in the AD office.

Judy cares, but she's ran out of ideas on how to fix the issues. Now, with football under her belt and her desire to not make waves, she's outlived her usefulness as Charlotte's AD. Now she's coasting to a safe retirement; and since we have a Chancellor doing the same thing, no one is going to force her to step down.

This type of job, when you're actually trying to improve things, requires a great deal of fire in the belly. Judy and Phil have no desire to make Niner sports more than what it is now. We're stuck here till they both retire, because our "big fish" donors LOVE them both.

Sounds eerily similar to UTEP's situation.

Bob Stull is 71 and has been the AD for 19 years. He was a successful football coach at UTEP for 3 years in the 80's and then moved on.

Dr. Diana Natalicio is 77 and has been president of UTEP for 29 years and had done very good things for UTEP's campus, academics and research but athletics obviously take a back seat.

It's entirely possible that the two have become good friends and until the president decides to retire, nothing likely will change. No indication she is ready to do that but the age factor has to kick in before too long.

The president is getting a large dose of unhappy fan emails lately and one can only hope it has some affect.

In Charlotte's case it also helps the current regime that the students pretty much fund the AD department. So, other than a few repeat big time donors, the AD isn't beholden to anyone.

Lynn Hickey has done wonders for UTSA. She has been the AD since 2000. I dont think you'll fine a UTSA fan that will complain about her.

(01-09-2017 11:34 AM)Niner National Wrote:  

(01-09-2017 11:29 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  27 years?!?!? That's crazy.

She's worked for the university for over 30. She was the women's basketball coach before.

Our men's coach was also the AD, but state law (or maybe it was NCAA rules) changed stating that coaches couldn't also be AD. When our coach was offered the choice to be coach or AD, he chose coach, so the AD position was offered to her. She took it and hasn't stopped curb stomping our revenue sports ever since.

For years, we succeeded despite her.

She was the first ever women's basketball coach in our school's history in 1975. She's been here 42 years and proudly claims that she is a product of Title IX.

She runs our athletics like it is 1995 instead of 2017.

(01-10-2017 10:45 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  Lynn Hickey has done wonders for UTSA. She has been the AD since 2000. I dont think you'll fine a UTSA fan that will complain about her.

I completely agree, I think she's done a fantastic job at her position. My only fear is she and Dr. Romo (University President) worked exceptionally well together and with his retirement this year there's change and unknown. I have nothing but high regard and respect for both Lynn Hickey and Dr. Romo.

A good example of her ability is Coach Coker. Fellow Oklahomian, good relationship and respect for each other, but he wasn't cutting it so she cut him. Hard decision but it needed to be made. I think Coker did an excellent job of starting the football program but change was needed and she made an excellent choice. I think the program is again moving upward. No complaints from me.

(01-11-2017 09:45 AM)Migser31 Wrote:  

(01-10-2017 10:45 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  Lynn Hickey has done wonders for UTSA. She has been the AD since 2000. I dont think you'll fine a UTSA fan that will complain about her.

I completely agree, I think she's done a fantastic job at her position. My only fear is she and Dr. Romo (University President) worked exceptionally well together and with his retirement this year there's change and unknown. I have nothing but high regard and respect for both Lynn Hickey and Dr. Romo.

A good example of her ability is Coach Coker. Fellow Oklahomian, good relationship and respect for each other, but he wasn't cutting it so she cut him. Hard decision but it needed to be made. I think Coker did an excellent job of starting the football program but change was needed and she made an excellent choice. I think the program is again moving upward. No complaints from me.

Does she struggle with fundraising though? Your facilities (dome excluded) are arguably the worst in CUSA.

Our AD sucks operationally IMO, but she's done a fair job fundraising--although she has had some very large donations find her rather than the other way around.

(01-11-2017 11:06 AM)Niner National Wrote:  

(01-11-2017 09:45 AM)Migser31 Wrote:  

(01-10-2017 10:45 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  Lynn Hickey has done wonders for UTSA. She has been the AD since 2000. I dont think you'll fine a UTSA fan that will complain about her.

I completely agree, I think she's done a fantastic job at her position. My only fear is she and Dr. Romo (University President) worked exceptionally well together and with his retirement this year there's change and unknown. I have nothing but high regard and respect for both Lynn Hickey and Dr. Romo.

A good example of her ability is Coach Coker. Fellow Oklahomian, good relationship and respect for each other, but he wasn't cutting it so she cut him. Hard decision but it needed to be made. I think Coker did an excellent job of starting the football program but change was needed and she made an excellent choice. I think the program is again moving upward. No complaints from me.

Does she struggle with fundraising though? Your facilities (dome excluded) are arguably the worst in CUSA.

Our AD sucks operationally IMO, but she's done a fair job fundraising--although she has had some very large donations find her rather than the other way around.

No, I dont think she struggles with fundraising. I think what hurts UTSA, is that us being such a young school, we do not have the big money donors that a lot of schools have. She has been able to raise some people from some corporations, but those corporations have no ties to the university, so its hard to get them to drop millions of dollars to have facilities built.

Heard some NC State fans bitching about Gottfried and their AD, Debbie Yow. One word kept being used: complacency.

Perfect word for the Charlotte AD under Judy Rose. Complacency.

(01-10-2017 09:56 AM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  

(01-09-2017 10:01 PM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  

(01-09-2017 09:54 PM)ODU1986 Wrote:  I think its irrelevant how long she, or anyone else, has been in their position. The only measuring stick should be success.

I agree with this and if you have a dynamic leader who has the will to fight for what's best for you, then you want to keep that person forever. Terry Holland comes to mind, and I think the ECU folks will admit that since he left their new AD isn't really filling the shoes left for him in the AD office.

Judy cares, but she's ran out of ideas on how to fix the issues. Now, with football under her belt and her desire to not make waves, she's outlived her usefulness as Charlotte's AD. Now she's coasting to a safe retirement; and since we have a Chancellor doing the same thing, no one is going to force her to step down.

This type of job, when you're actually trying to improve things, requires a great deal of fire in the belly. Judy and Phil have no desire to make Niner sports more than what it is now. We're stuck here till they both retire, because our "big fish" donors LOVE them both.

Sounds eerily similar to UTEP's situation.

Bob Stull is 71 and has been the AD for 19 years. He was a successful football coach at UTEP for 3 years in the 80's and then moved on.

Dr. Diana Natalicio is 77 and has been president of UTEP for 29 years and had done very good things for UTEP's campus, academics and research but athletics obviously take a back seat.

It's entirely possible that the two have become good friends and until the president decides to retire, nothing likely will change. No indication she is ready to do that but the age factor has to kick in before too long.

The president is getting a large dose of unhappy fan emails lately and one can only hope it has some affect.

I don't really have any complaints about Dr Natalicio. She transformed the entire university from top to bottom. It's not the same University I attended 20 years ago both academically and physically. She neglected athletics at first then the MWC schools left us behind and she took notice and hired Stull and our facilities got upgraded but it looks she stopped caring again. My feeling is that she's good friends with Stull and they work together fine so there's not that much of an urgency in firing Stull.

As for the list, the only one I can see that has earned his length is the Utah AD. From a mediocre athletic department in the mid-90s to the Pac-12. Same for the Louisville AD.