With thanks to WinstonTheWolf on the Sun Belt Board...

(01-07-2017 01:06 PM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote:  Looks like Sun Belt will finish 3rd in G5 and pick up an extra 4.7 million (3x last year) due to the 4 bowl wins. 2.33 mill per slot= 7 million for 3rd place.

33% 11.6 AAC
27% 9.3 MWC
20% 7.0 SBC
13% 4.7 MAC
7% 2.3 CUSA
100% 35 Total Performance bribe

Source:
Arkansas Democrat Gazette Sun Belt Article

Add the $10 million base to the $11,666,666 performance bonus and that's a hair under $21.7 million to split for our cut of the so-called playoff money. Obviously this does not include our other bowl or TV money.

So a little under $2m? That should be enough to fire Lebo!


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(01-09-2017 09:04 AM)PurpleReigns2012 Wrote:  So a little under $2m? That should be enough to fire Lebo!


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Is that money split equally among the 12 schools? If so about $1.7 million per school.

Or does the conference get a share? And what about bowl expense money? Does the conference subtract that from the money received?

(01-09-2017 10:55 AM)SMUmustangs Wrote:  Is that money split equally among the 12 schools? If so about $1.7 million per school.

Or does the conference get a share? And what about bowl expense money? Does the conference subtract that from the money received?

I don't know the details on whether the conference gets a share, but I'd guess all the football money (playoff, bowl, media) gets lumped together before expenses get taken out and then it's split up 12 ways. Basketball revenue must be done separately since it gets split 11 ways.

Those percentages are rounded.

We get 5/15 or 33.33%.
MWC gets 4/15 etc.

So our share of $35M is $11.67M

I thought the conference that supplies the "G5" NY6 team gets $4m. Why did the MAC only end up with $4.7M?

(01-09-2017 12:36 PM)SublimeKnight Wrote:  I thought the conference that supplies the "G5" NY6 team gets $4m. Why did the MAC only end up with $4.7M?

I agree I thought there was a specific allotment to the NY6 representative. Maybe they did away with it though or the writer missed that piece but has the rest correct. So maybe it is 31 or 32 million being split after that is shaved off. Still leaves the American at 20ish million which isn't too shabby.

(01-09-2017 12:48 PM)PT_american Wrote:  

(01-09-2017 12:36 PM)SublimeKnight Wrote:  I thought the conference that supplies the "G5" NY6 team gets $4m. Why did the MAC only end up with $4.7M?

I agree I thought there was a specific allotment to the NY6 representative. Maybe they did away with it though or the writer missed that piece but has the rest correct. So maybe it is 31 or 32 million being split after that is shaved off. Still leaves the American at 20ish million which isn't too shabby.

This is only the base amount. There is also the $4 million to the MAC for sending a team to a non-playoff bowl under the arrangement and $600,000 per school that meets the APR requirements ($300,000 to the school, $300,000 to the conference), but the article's writer left these monies out.

Basically, here is the breakdown from last year:

Quote:The following estimates of the CFP revenue distribution are based on preliminary calculations for the 2015-2016 season and are only approximate projections of potential revenue distribution from each component:

(1) Each conference will receive $300,000 for each of its schools when the school’s football team meets the NCAA’s APR for participation in a post-season football game. Each independent institution will also receive the $300,000 when its football team meets that standard.

(2) Each of the 10 conferences will also receive a base amount. For conferences that have contracts for their champions to participate in the Orange, Rose or Sugar Bowl, the base combined with the full academic performance pool will be approximately $51 million for each conference. The five conferences that do not have contracts for their champions to participate in the Orange, Rose or Sugar Bowls will receive approximately $79 million in aggregate (full academic pool plus base), which the conferences will distribute as they choose. Notre Dame will receive a payment of $2.58 million if it meets the APR standard; the other two independents will share $618,241.

(3) A conference will receive $6 million for each team that is selected for the semifinal games. There will be no additional distribution to conferences whose teams qualify for the national championship game. A conference will receive $4 million for each team that plays in a non-playoff bowl under the arrangement (in 2014-2015, the Cotton, Fiesta and Peach Bowls).

(4) Each conference whose team participates in a playoff semifinal, Cotton, Fiesta or Peach Bowl, or in the national championship game will receive $2.08 million to cover expenses for each game. Additionally, certain conferences in the Football Championship Subdivision conferences will receive
$2.34 million in aggregate.

The above article is only dealing with the part I bolded, which is where "group of five" comes from. If we ever truly want there to be a group of four, we need to get a contract with one of those bowls, but let's not go down that path in this thread please.

edit - now that I read it again, I think that item 2 includes item 1, based on the "base combined with the full academic performance pool" language.

(01-09-2017 01:03 PM)Chappy Wrote:  Basically, here is the breakdown from last year:

Quote:The following estimates of the CFP revenue distribution are based on preliminary calculations for the 2015-2016 season and are only approximate projections of potential revenue distribution from each component:

(1) Each conference will receive $300,000 for each of its schools when the school’s football team meets the NCAA’s APR for participation in a post-season football game. Each independent institution will also receive the $300,000 when its football team meets that standard.

(2) Each of the 10 conferences will also receive a base amount. For conferences that have contracts for their champions to participate in the Orange, Rose or Sugar Bowl, the base combined with the full academic performance pool will be approximately $51 million for each conference. The five conferences that do not have contracts for their champions to participate in the Orange, Rose or Sugar Bowls will receive approximately $79 million in aggregate (full academic pool plus base), which the conferences will distribute as they choose. Notre Dame will receive a payment of $2.58 million if it meets the APR standard; the other two independents will share $618,241.

(3) A conference will receive $6 million for each team that is selected for the semifinal games. There will be no additional distribution to conferences whose teams qualify for the national championship game. A conference will receive $4 million for each team that plays in a non-playoff bowl under the arrangement (in 2014-2015, the Cotton, Fiesta and Peach Bowls).

(4) Each conference whose team participates in a playoff semifinal, Cotton, Fiesta or Peach Bowl, or in the national championship game will receive $2.08 million to cover expenses for each game. Additionally, certain conferences in the Football Championship Subdivision conferences will receive
$2.34 million in aggregate.

The above article is only dealing with the part I bolded, which is where "group of five" comes from. If we ever truly want there to be a group of four, we need to get a contract with one of those bowls, but let's not go down that path in this thread please.

edit - now that I read it again, I think that item 2 includes item 1, based on the "base combined with the full academic performance pool" language.

This is what I've been curious about, if the AAC were to buy the cotton bowl would that not make us p6 instantly? Isn't that basically what the ACC did to garuantee their inclusion in the power structure when they bought the Orange bowl

(01-09-2017 01:43 PM)Tigersmoke3 Wrote:  

(01-09-2017 01:03 PM)Chappy Wrote:  Basically, here is the breakdown from last year:

Quote:The following estimates of the CFP revenue distribution are based on preliminary calculations for the 2015-2016 season and are only approximate projections of potential revenue distribution from each component:

(1) Each conference will receive $300,000 for each of its schools when the school’s football team meets the NCAA’s APR for participation in a post-season football game. Each independent institution will also receive the $300,000 when its football team meets that standard.

(2) Each of the 10 conferences will also receive a base amount. For conferences that have contracts for their champions to participate in the Orange, Rose or Sugar Bowl, the base combined with the full academic performance pool will be approximately $51 million for each conference. The five conferences that do not have contracts for their champions to participate in the Orange, Rose or Sugar Bowls will receive approximately $79 million in aggregate (full academic pool plus base), which the conferences will distribute as they choose. Notre Dame will receive a payment of $2.58 million if it meets the APR standard; the other two independents will share $618,241.

(3) A conference will receive $6 million for each team that is selected for the semifinal games. There will be no additional distribution to conferences whose teams qualify for the national championship game. A conference will receive $4 million for each team that plays in a non-playoff bowl under the arrangement (in 2014-2015, the Cotton, Fiesta and Peach Bowls).

(4) Each conference whose team participates in a playoff semifinal, Cotton, Fiesta or Peach Bowl, or in the national championship game will receive $2.08 million to cover expenses for each game. Additionally, certain conferences in the Football Championship Subdivision conferences will receive
$2.34 million in aggregate.

The above article is only dealing with the part I bolded, which is where "group of five" comes from. If we ever truly want there to be a group of four, we need to get a contract with one of those bowls, but let's not go down that path in this thread please.

edit - now that I read it again, I think that item 2 includes item 1, based on the "base combined with the full academic performance pool" language.

This is what I've been curious about, if the AAC were to buy the cotton bowl would that not make us p6 instantly? Isn't that basically what the ACC did to garuantee their inclusion in the power structure when they bought the Orange bowl

The AAC should quietly gather the resources together and attempt this. Hell I'd kick in a few shekels to see that happen.

(01-09-2017 06:03 PM)8BitPirate Wrote:  

(01-09-2017 01:43 PM)Tigersmoke3 Wrote:  

(01-09-2017 01:03 PM)Chappy Wrote:  Basically, here is the breakdown from last year:

Quote:The following estimates of the CFP revenue distribution are based on preliminary calculations for the 2015-2016 season and are only approximate projections of potential revenue distribution from each component:

(1) Each conference will receive $300,000 for each of its schools when the school’s football team meets the NCAA’s APR for participation in a post-season football game. Each independent institution will also receive the $300,000 when its football team meets that standard.

(2) Each of the 10 conferences will also receive a base amount. For conferences that have contracts for their champions to participate in the Orange, Rose or Sugar Bowl, the base combined with the full academic performance pool will be approximately $51 million for each conference. The five conferences that do not have contracts for their champions to participate in the Orange, Rose or Sugar Bowls will receive approximately $79 million in aggregate (full academic pool plus base), which the conferences will distribute as they choose. Notre Dame will receive a payment of $2.58 million if it meets the APR standard; the other two independents will share $618,241.

(3) A conference will receive $6 million for each team that is selected for the semifinal games. There will be no additional distribution to conferences whose teams qualify for the national championship game. A conference will receive $4 million for each team that plays in a non-playoff bowl under the arrangement (in 2014-2015, the Cotton, Fiesta and Peach Bowls).

(4) Each conference whose team participates in a playoff semifinal, Cotton, Fiesta or Peach Bowl, or in the national championship game will receive $2.08 million to cover expenses for each game. Additionally, certain conferences in the Football Championship Subdivision conferences will receive
$2.34 million in aggregate.

The above article is only dealing with the part I bolded, which is where "group of five" comes from. If we ever truly want there to be a group of four, we need to get a contract with one of those bowls, but let's not go down that path in this thread please.

edit - now that I read it again, I think that item 2 includes item 1, based on the "base combined with the full academic performance pool" language.

This is what I've been curious about, if the AAC were to buy the cotton bowl would that not make us p6 instantly? Isn't that basically what the ACC did to garuantee their inclusion in the power structure when they bought the Orange bowl

The AAC should quietly gather the resources together and attempt this. Hell I'd kick in a few shekels to see that happen.

I think the AAC was offered the chance to start a contract bowl and or convince one to add us on their own (which did not happen). We could shock the sports world if we can find a good loan officer

I agree we should buy the cotton or Peach bowl which ever one we can get cheaper and put our champion in the game. That would make us an access conference.

(01-09-2017 06:20 PM)Tigersmoke3 Wrote:  

(01-09-2017 06:03 PM)8BitPirate Wrote:  

(01-09-2017 01:43 PM)Tigersmoke3 Wrote:  

(01-09-2017 01:03 PM)Chappy Wrote:  Basically, here is the breakdown from last year:

Quote:The following estimates of the CFP revenue distribution are based on preliminary calculations for the 2015-2016 season and are only approximate projections of potential revenue distribution from each component:

(1) Each conference will receive $300,000 for each of its schools when the school’s football team meets the NCAA’s APR for participation in a post-season football game. Each independent institution will also receive the $300,000 when its football team meets that standard.

(2) Each of the 10 conferences will also receive a base amount. For conferences that have contracts for their champions to participate in the Orange, Rose or Sugar Bowl, the base combined with the full academic performance pool will be approximately $51 million for each conference. The five conferences that do not have contracts for their champions to participate in the Orange, Rose or Sugar Bowls will receive approximately $79 million in aggregate (full academic pool plus base), which the conferences will distribute as they choose. Notre Dame will receive a payment of $2.58 million if it meets the APR standard; the other two independents will share $618,241.

(3) A conference will receive $6 million for each team that is selected for the semifinal games. There will be no additional distribution to conferences whose teams qualify for the national championship game. A conference will receive $4 million for each team that plays in a non-playoff bowl under the arrangement (in 2014-2015, the Cotton, Fiesta and Peach Bowls).

(4) Each conference whose team participates in a playoff semifinal, Cotton, Fiesta or Peach Bowl, or in the national championship game will receive $2.08 million to cover expenses for each game. Additionally, certain conferences in the Football Championship Subdivision conferences will receive
$2.34 million in aggregate.

The above article is only dealing with the part I bolded, which is where "group of five" comes from. If we ever truly want there to be a group of four, we need to get a contract with one of those bowls, but let's not go down that path in this thread please.

edit - now that I read it again, I think that item 2 includes item 1, based on the "base combined with the full academic performance pool" language.

This is what I've been curious about, if the AAC were to buy the cotton bowl would that not make us p6 instantly? Isn't that basically what the ACC did to garuantee their inclusion in the power structure when they bought the Orange bowl

The AAC should quietly gather the resources together and attempt this. Hell I'd kick in a few shekels to see that happen.

I think the AAC was offered the chance to start a contract bowl and or convince one to add us on their own (which did not happen).

When did this occur?

(01-09-2017 01:43 PM)Tigersmoke3 Wrote:  

(01-09-2017 01:03 PM)Chappy Wrote:  Basically, here is the breakdown from last year:

Quote:The following estimates of the CFP revenue distribution are based on preliminary calculations for the 2015-2016 season and are only approximate projections of potential revenue distribution from each component:

(1) Each conference will receive $300,000 for each of its schools when the school’s football team meets the NCAA’s APR for participation in a post-season football game. Each independent institution will also receive the $300,000 when its football team meets that standard.

(2) Each of the 10 conferences will also receive a base amount. For conferences that have contracts for their champions to participate in the Orange, Rose or Sugar Bowl, the base combined with the full academic performance pool will be approximately $51 million for each conference. The five conferences that do not have contracts for their champions to participate in the Orange, Rose or Sugar Bowls will receive approximately $79 million in aggregate (full academic pool plus base), which the conferences will distribute as they choose. Notre Dame will receive a payment of $2.58 million if it meets the APR standard; the other two independents will share $618,241.

(3) A conference will receive $6 million for each team that is selected for the semifinal games. There will be no additional distribution to conferences whose teams qualify for the national championship game. A conference will receive $4 million for each team that plays in a non-playoff bowl under the arrangement (in 2014-2015, the Cotton, Fiesta and Peach Bowls).

(4) Each conference whose team participates in a playoff semifinal, Cotton, Fiesta or Peach Bowl, or in the national championship game will receive $2.08 million to cover expenses for each game. Additionally, certain conferences in the Football Championship Subdivision conferences will receive
$2.34 million in aggregate.

The above article is only dealing with the part I bolded, which is where "group of five" comes from. If we ever truly want there to be a group of four, we need to get a contract with one of those bowls, but let's not go down that path in this thread please.

edit - now that I read it again, I think that item 2 includes item 1, based on the "base combined with the full academic performance pool" language.

This is what I've been curious about, if the AAC were to buy the cotton bowl would that not make us p6 instantly?

This is what I have been saying...

(01-09-2017 01:43 PM)Tigersmoke3 Wrote:  

(01-09-2017 01:03 PM)Chappy Wrote:  Basically, here is the breakdown from last year:

Quote:The following estimates of the CFP revenue distribution are based on preliminary calculations for the 2015-2016 season and are only approximate projections of potential revenue distribution from each component:

(1) Each conference will receive $300,000 for each of its schools when the school’s football team meets the NCAA’s APR for participation in a post-season football game. Each independent institution will also receive the $300,000 when its football team meets that standard.

(2) Each of the 10 conferences will also receive a base amount. For conferences that have contracts for their champions to participate in the Orange, Rose or Sugar Bowl, the base combined with the full academic performance pool will be approximately $51 million for each conference. The five conferences that do not have contracts for their champions to participate in the Orange, Rose or Sugar Bowls will receive approximately $79 million in aggregate (full academic pool plus base), which the conferences will distribute as they choose. Notre Dame will receive a payment of $2.58 million if it meets the APR standard; the other two independents will share $618,241.

(3) A conference will receive $6 million for each team that is selected for the semifinal games. There will be no additional distribution to conferences whose teams qualify for the national championship game. A conference will receive $4 million for each team that plays in a non-playoff bowl under the arrangement (in 2014-2015, the Cotton, Fiesta and Peach Bowls).

(4) Each conference whose team participates in a playoff semifinal, Cotton, Fiesta or Peach Bowl, or in the national championship game will receive $2.08 million to cover expenses for each game. Additionally, certain conferences in the Football Championship Subdivision conferences will receive
$2.34 million in aggregate.

The above article is only dealing with the part I bolded, which is where "group of five" comes from. If we ever truly want there to be a group of four, we need to get a contract with one of those bowls, but let's not go down that path in this thread please.

edit - now that I read it again, I think that item 2 includes item 1, based on the "base combined with the full academic performance pool" language.

This is what I've been curious about, if the AAC were to buy the cotton bowl would that not make us p6 instantly?Isn't that basically what the ACC did to garuantee their inclusion in the power structure when they bought the Orange bowl

Yes, it used to be the Big East's anchor bowl, but when Miami left, so did our contract bowl (this was the real beginning of the end) and we were demoted to an at large BCS bowl spot.

(01-09-2017 07:20 PM)Phil Lacio Wrote:  

(01-09-2017 01:43 PM)Tigersmoke3 Wrote:  

(01-09-2017 01:03 PM)Chappy Wrote:  Basically, here is the breakdown from last year:

Quote:The following estimates of the CFP revenue distribution are based on preliminary calculations for the 2015-2016 season and are only approximate projections of potential revenue distribution from each component:

(1) Each conference will receive $300,000 for each of its schools when the school’s football team meets the NCAA’s APR for participation in a post-season football game. Each independent institution will also receive the $300,000 when its football team meets that standard.

(2) Each of the 10 conferences will also receive a base amount. For conferences that have contracts for their champions to participate in the Orange, Rose or Sugar Bowl, the base combined with the full academic performance pool will be approximately $51 million for each conference. The five conferences that do not have contracts for their champions to participate in the Orange, Rose or Sugar Bowls will receive approximately $79 million in aggregate (full academic pool plus base), which the conferences will distribute as they choose. Notre Dame will receive a payment of $2.58 million if it meets the APR standard; the other two independents will share $618,241.

(3) A conference will receive $6 million for each team that is selected for the semifinal games. There will be no additional distribution to conferences whose teams qualify for the national championship game. A conference will receive $4 million for each team that plays in a non-playoff bowl under the arrangement (in 2014-2015, the Cotton, Fiesta and Peach Bowls).

(4) Each conference whose team participates in a playoff semifinal, Cotton, Fiesta or Peach Bowl, or in the national championship game will receive $2.08 million to cover expenses for each game. Additionally, certain conferences in the Football Championship Subdivision conferences will receive
$2.34 million in aggregate.

The above article is only dealing with the part I bolded, which is where "group of five" comes from. If we ever truly want there to be a group of four, we need to get a contract with one of those bowls, but let's not go down that path in this thread please.

edit - now that I read it again, I think that item 2 includes item 1, based on the "base combined with the full academic performance pool" language.

This is what I've been curious about, if the AAC were to buy the cotton bowl would that not make us p6 instantly?Isn't that basically what the ACC did to garuantee their inclusion in the power structure when they bought the Orange bowl

Yes, it used to be the Big East's anchor bowl, but when Miami left, so did our contract bowl (this was the real beginning of the end) and we were demoted to an at large BCS bowl spot.

The g5 at large spot is basically the old big East spot and if the AAC would've have simply bought the cotton or Peach Bowl we would've kept our power status. I believe if we don't pull the trigger the mwc may beat us to it. If we buy the cotton bowl we acquire all contractual obligations, right? Aresco only need to get all 12 presidents to sign a gor then contribute maybe 8 million apiece and our p6 dream is fulfilled. What kind of bidding war would ensue in 3yrs for the last power conference available?. I welcome anyone with more knowledge on this subject to correct me if I'm wrong, I'm sure that I'm missing something lol

(01-09-2017 08:18 PM)Tigersmoke3 Wrote:  

(01-09-2017 07:20 PM)Phil Lacio Wrote:  

(01-09-2017 01:43 PM)Tigersmoke3 Wrote:  

(01-09-2017 01:03 PM)Chappy Wrote:  Basically, here is the breakdown from last year:

Quote:The following estimates of the CFP revenue distribution are based on preliminary calculations for the 2015-2016 season and are only approximate projections of potential revenue distribution from each component:

(1) Each conference will receive $300,000 for each of its schools when the school’s football team meets the NCAA’s APR for participation in a post-season football game. Each independent institution will also receive the $300,000 when its football team meets that standard.

(2) Each of the 10 conferences will also receive a base amount. For conferences that have contracts for their champions to participate in the Orange, Rose or Sugar Bowl, the base combined with the full academic performance pool will be approximately $51 million for each conference. The five conferences that do not have contracts for their champions to participate in the Orange, Rose or Sugar Bowls will receive approximately $79 million in aggregate (full academic pool plus base), which the conferences will distribute as they choose. Notre Dame will receive a payment of $2.58 million if it meets the APR standard; the other two independents will share $618,241.

(3) A conference will receive $6 million for each team that is selected for the semifinal games. There will be no additional distribution to conferences whose teams qualify for the national championship game. A conference will receive $4 million for each team that plays in a non-playoff bowl under the arrangement (in 2014-2015, the Cotton, Fiesta and Peach Bowls).

(4) Each conference whose team participates in a playoff semifinal, Cotton, Fiesta or Peach Bowl, or in the national championship game will receive $2.08 million to cover expenses for each game. Additionally, certain conferences in the Football Championship Subdivision conferences will receive
$2.34 million in aggregate.

The above article is only dealing with the part I bolded, which is where "group of five" comes from. If we ever truly want there to be a group of four, we need to get a contract with one of those bowls, but let's not go down that path in this thread please.

edit - now that I read it again, I think that item 2 includes item 1, based on the "base combined with the full academic performance pool" language.

This is what I've been curious about, if the AAC were to buy the cotton bowl would that not make us p6 instantly?Isn't that basically what the ACC did to garuantee their inclusion in the power structure when they bought the Orange bowl

Yes, it used to be the Big East's anchor bowl, but when Miami left, so did our contract bowl (this was the real beginning of the end) and we were demoted to an at large BCS bowl spot.

The g5 at large spot is basically the old big East spot and if the AAC would've have simply bought the cotton or Peach Bowl we would've kept our power status. I believe if we don't pull the trigger the mwc may beat us to it. If we buy the cotton bowl we acquire all contractual obligations, right? Aresco only need to get all 12 presidents to sign a gor then contribute maybe 8 million apiece and our p6 dream is fulfilled. What kind of bidding war would ensue in 3yrs for the last power conference available?. I welcome anyone with more knowledge on this subject to correct me if I'm wrong, I'm sure that I'm missing something lol

I agree we need to buy the Cotton or Peach bowls or arrange a contract bowl agreement with them and add army(FB)/BYU(all sports) before the TV contract renegotiation (if we want a bigger TV payday). Aresco has to get ESPN to agree to an enticing enough payday bump to get teams like BYU and Army to bite.


If Aresco ever decides to get crazy and go to 16, I'd vote for adding Air Force(FB) and BSU(FB) also, with Dayton, WSU, Gonzaga and Saint Mary's in bball; I know this isn't realistic, just dreaming...

Speaking of playoff were is out Alabama vs. Clemson NC thread?