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RE: if Sun Belt were to expand, what's your ideal result?
James Madison would be the only team I would be interested in, anyone else just adds another mouth to feed that wouldn't significantly strengthen the conference
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(03-20-2017 01:07 AM)SouthJags2012 Wrote:  No thanks to anyone who is not part of FBS already. I do not think we should accept anymore FCS schools. If we add these two schools will our tv dollars go up? I know we get very little as it is but we need to keep as much as possible for our schools. Let C-USA have them if they wanna move up.

Sure am glad App got in before you took over!
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RE: if Sun Belt were to expand, what's your ideal result?
I don't want to add any teams.

But if we did... MTSU/WKU work for me.
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RE: if Sun Belt were to expand, what's your ideal result?
Only ones I would hold out for are Southern Miss and UAB. Other than those, no moves.
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(01-10-2017 05:53 PM)Shox Wrote:  If UTEP goes to back to the MWC then this west division of Sun Belt would be pretty freaking awesome...

NMSU
TX State
UTSA
stAte
Mo-State
UL

That would be pretty dang fun and relatively compact.
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RE: if Sun Belt were to expand, what's your ideal result?
Invitees need to actually add to the Sunbelt. If a school can add revenue, prestige, or overall quality of sports, cool. Their revenue bump needs to exceed the tv revenue payout split. I'm a fan of reshuffling with CUSA but staying put at 10 is ideal right now.

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RE: if Sun Belt were to expand, what's your ideal result?
(03-21-2017 06:04 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  
(03-20-2017 01:07 AM)SouthJags2012 Wrote:  No thanks to anyone who is not part of FBS already. I do not think we should accept anymore FCS schools. If we add these two schools will our tv dollars go up? I know we get very little as it is but we need to keep as much as possible for our schools. Let C-USA have them if they wanna move up.

Sure am glad App got in before you took over!

I'm talking about at this point. I'm was happy when App and GSU decided to join the SBC. That was not suppose to be a dig at you guys.
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RE: if Sun Belt were to expand, what's your ideal result?
(03-21-2017 11:55 PM)APPdiesel Wrote:  Invitees need to actually add to the Sunbelt. If a school can add revenue, prestige, or overall quality of sports, cool. Their revenue bump needs to exceed the tv revenue payout split. I'm a fan of reshuffling with CUSA but staying put at 10 is ideal right now.

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Hey, Idaho did all of that last year! Let's invite them!
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RE: if Sun Belt were to expand, what's your ideal result?
Ideal: Southern Miss plus JMU

Reality: We're probably better off with our current membership.
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If the Belt truly needs another member, Missouri State and UTC jump out at me. But I see no need to dilute the money without value (as CUSA did). North Dakota State makes zero sense to me. NMSU is another possibility in my view.

Remember, UTA is a full member of the conference and can simply add football and cruise into FBS as South Alabama did. No to Wichita or JMU who'll just leave for greener pastures almost immediately.

Im fine w UALR as is. Im not in love w Eastern Kentucky either.
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RE: if Sun Belt were to expand, what's your ideal result?
(03-22-2017 12:53 AM)SouthJags2012 Wrote:  
(03-21-2017 06:04 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  
(03-20-2017 01:07 AM)SouthJags2012 Wrote:  No thanks to anyone who is not part of FBS already. I do not think we should accept anymore FCS schools. If we add these two schools will our tv dollars go up? I know we get very little as it is but we need to keep as much as possible for our schools. Let C-USA have them if they wanna move up.

Sure am glad App got in before you took over!

I'm talking about at this point. I'm was happy when App and GSU decided to join the SBC. That was not suppose to be a dig at you guys.
I know. Just having a little fun with you.

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(03-22-2017 11:15 AM)AppManDG Wrote:  
(03-22-2017 12:53 AM)SouthJags2012 Wrote:  
(03-21-2017 06:04 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  
(03-20-2017 01:07 AM)SouthJags2012 Wrote:  No thanks to anyone who is not part of FBS already. I do not think we should accept anymore FCS schools. If we add these two schools will our tv dollars go up? I know we get very little as it is but we need to keep as much as possible for our schools. Let C-USA have them if they wanna move up.

Sure am glad App got in before you took over!

I'm talking about at this point. I'm was happy when App and GSU decided to join the SBC. That was not suppose to be a dig at you guys.
I know. Just having a little fun with you.

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Nothing against UT Arlington or UALR at all, but my personal preference is members play all sports. Guess I was prejudiced by the Small Con experience. The non-football playing schools (Davidson in particular) poured a lot of resources into baskeball and dominated the conference. My personal choice would be to add USM & Marshall. WKU & MTSU are attractive (to App fans) from a regional stand point, but they chose to bolt.

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RE: if Sun Belt were to expand, what's your ideal result?
I'd LOVE for us to start football, but I doubt it will ever happen. I'll forever hope, though.
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(03-22-2017 01:02 AM)LatahCounty Wrote:  
(03-21-2017 11:55 PM)APPdiesel Wrote:  Invitees need to actually add to the Sunbelt. If a school can add revenue, prestige, or overall quality of sports, cool. Their revenue bump needs to exceed the tv revenue payout split. I'm a fan of reshuffling with CUSA but staying put at 10 is ideal right now.

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Hey, Idaho did all of that last year! Let's invite them!

I believe UI will make ink and money for the conference again in the upcoming football season. Irony...
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Not all FCS teams are created equal. I believe that an option for specific FCS teams as well as an option for all other FCS teams should be added.
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(03-19-2017 09:30 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  
(03-19-2017 08:55 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  
(03-19-2017 07:56 PM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  Let's talk seriously for a second.

Wichita State going to the AAC is looking pretty serious. If the MVC loses them then that league is definitely lower RPI than the SBC. The SBC has been itching to add MoSt for a bit. This would be incentive for them to leave. But that wouldn't happen in a vacuum. Liberty is moving up. That breaks the normal order of things. The order JMU was perfectly happy to abide by. Now they're surrounded by FBS teams in an area they were comfortable recruiting in for football while Olympicaly the SBC and CAA are equals.


Could this be the SBC's path to 12/14?

Whats the big attraction about Missouri State? They're not all that great in basketball, and they've had some awful seasons in football.

James Madison, budget and facilty-wise, has been FBS ready for most of the decade. That one I understand.

Frankly, I would be fine with zero expansion or a geographical reshuffling with CUSA schools, but that's a separate topic.

Bears are a great travel fit for the west, historically good in baseball, basketball and women's hoops. Now currently hoops are on a skid and didn't do themselves any favors retaining their coach.

mostate is in a basketball region and would no doubt be forced bring their football up a notch as a sbc member. they have some good facilities and are a better school than the eastern prospects usually mentioned. I would favor adding them and nmsu for all sports. anyhow, who started the wichita state to the aac rumor anyway..is someone leaving. and why would a school with no football be the top prospect to fill in.
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(03-22-2017 03:01 PM)runamuck Wrote:  
(03-19-2017 09:30 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  
(03-19-2017 08:55 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  
(03-19-2017 07:56 PM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  Let's talk seriously for a second.

Wichita State going to the AAC is looking pretty serious. If the MVC loses them then that league is definitely lower RPI than the SBC. The SBC has been itching to add MoSt for a bit. This would be incentive for them to leave. But that wouldn't happen in a vacuum. Liberty is moving up. That breaks the normal order of things. The order JMU was perfectly happy to abide by. Now they're surrounded by FBS teams in an area they were comfortable recruiting in for football while Olympicaly the SBC and CAA are equals.


Could this be the SBC's path to 12/14?

Whats the big attraction about Missouri State? They're not all that great in basketball, and they've had some awful seasons in football.

James Madison, budget and facilty-wise, has been FBS ready for most of the decade. That one I understand.

Frankly, I would be fine with zero expansion or a geographical reshuffling with CUSA schools, but that's a separate topic.

Bears are a great travel fit for the west, historically good in baseball, basketball and women's hoops. Now currently hoops are on a skid and didn't do themselves any favors retaining their coach.

mostate is in a basketball region and would no doubt be forced bring their football up a notch as a sbc member. they have some good facilities and are a better school than the eastern prospects usually mentioned. I would favor adding them and nmsu for all sports. anyhow, who started the wichita state to the aac rumor anyway..is someone leaving. and why would a school with no football be the top prospect to fill in.

woops, I see on their website that they are counting on it happening and maybe even Dayton and VCU going to the aac. all for basketball only..
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No thanks to JMU.

I'd rather the Sun Belt bring in some strong basketball schools to make it a 10 football/14 basketball league. The Sun Belt would be strong all across the board if that happened.
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(03-23-2017 05:20 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  No thanks to JMU.

I'd rather the Sun Belt bring in some strong basketball schools to make it a 10 football/14 basketball league. The Sun Belt would be strong all across the board if that happened.
I think KB and a majority of the Sunbelt has kind of accepted that we're a football conference...much in the way the ACC identifies as a basketball league and the SEC football. Sure FSU, Clemson, Kentucky win titles in their leagues "non chosen" sport but they still are what they are. Football will still continue to steer the ship.

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You can't say we are a "football" conference when we have 2 non football playing members. Why not add a couple more basketball schools and strengthen that sport as a conference. Lots of choices for basketball only schools that could help, FGCU(someone call FloridaJag), Belmont, UNCW.

Could make expansion a lot more fun.
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