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(01-08-2017 09:08 AM)MajorHoople Wrote:  He said in hos post-Cotton Bowl presser he was going back to Kalamazoo - didn't say he was going back to WMU.

Parsing words. If his new gig doesn't work out maybe he could try his hand as a barrister

(01-08-2017 01:17 PM)flushtheherd Wrote:  I think once he remarried his personal trajectory was vastly changed... be it by his new wife pushing him to give her more chance to dance in a bigger spotlight... or maybe her fashion and jewelry budget was getting out of hand... Ever since she showed up on the scene he seemed to show a few puppet strings... just sayin.

Can't say that these thoughts haven't occurred to more than a few of us.

(01-06-2017 07:38 PM)lancergolf1 Wrote:  

(01-06-2017 07:33 PM)Stampede your face!! Wrote:  I'm bitter. Left at the most important juncture of our budding program.

Irony is, if the right hire is made (Les) our program will be in better shape over next 3 years than if Fleck had stayed. He's a great jump start, but he's not Saban. Don't tell me you guys weren't getting sick of change your best, grow higher, etc. Effective for periods of time, but it was time for a change - just have to make the next right move (fleck pun intended).

Right hire is Mike Houston not old has been fired from LSU

Don't forget the new shirt would be"EL17E"

(01-08-2017 08:23 PM)wojo-kowski Wrote:  

(01-06-2017 07:38 PM)lancergolf1 Wrote:  

(01-06-2017 07:33 PM)Stampede your face!! Wrote:  I'm bitter. Left at the most important juncture of our budding program.

Irony is, if the right hire is made (Les) our program will be in better shape over next 3 years than if Fleck had stayed. He's a great jump start, but he's not Saban. Don't tell me you guys weren't getting sick of change your best, grow higher, etc. Effective for periods of time, but it was time for a change - just have to make the next right move (fleck pun intended).

Right hire is Mike Houston not old has been fired from LSU

Maybe. But can you imagine him walking into USC next year and having been there? No, just think he's a bigger risk and not sure many recruits would clammed for that. And fired vs need a change are two different things.

(01-08-2017 08:27 PM)NYbronco Wrote:  Don't forget the new shirt would be"EL17E"

It took a hieroglyphics translator to read Flecks sweatshirts.

(01-08-2017 09:07 PM)lancergolf1 Wrote:  

(01-08-2017 08:27 PM)NYbronco Wrote:  Don't forget the new shirt would be"EL17E"

It took a hieroglyphics translator to read Flecks sweatshirts.

Maybe WMU will have a core set of uniforms and thank god no more oars!

(01-08-2017 09:38 PM)DrakeDog Wrote:  

(01-08-2017 09:07 PM)lancergolf1 Wrote:  

(01-08-2017 08:27 PM)NYbronco Wrote:  Don't forget the new shirt would be"EL17E"

It took a hieroglyphics translator to read Flecks sweatshirts.

Maybe WMU will have a core set of uniforms and thank god no more oars!

Indeed. That's one of the upsides here. Although stay with the brown, no return to black (and fer god's sakes, burn those grey uniforms we used in the MACC).

I warmed up to RTB and thought it to be good rallying cry, but I never found myself fully buying into it. Most passers-by in Dallas would say "Row the Boat!" That's fine, but I still prefer the traditional "Go Broncos!" from strangers.

(01-07-2017 09:05 PM)Bronco14 Wrote:  

(01-07-2017 08:05 PM)BCBronco Wrote:  I think part of the reason that people are so disappointed with PJ leaving is an implied commitment that many of us took seriously but really didn't exist.

His gushing about Kalamazoo, his stated appreciation for KB taking a chance on him, his commentary about improving the facilities and adding stadium capacity all suggested more than a fling. There are probably other examples of his implied love of all things Western and Kalamazoo.

For me the big ones were:
1.) Planning stadium expansion
2.) Saying he'd win a National Championship with WMU
3.) Saying he'd use the money the program bring Men's Track back to WMU
4.) Wanting to build WMU to a Boise St type program
5.) A visible/audible passion for the MAC that other coaches didn't necessarily express

Just all these items seemed to hint he wouldn't jump at the first opportunity. I know some was just coach speak, like winning a National Championship, but still, you just don't see that in your everyday poached coach..

Generally agree with this. My thoughts on the list above:

1) Fun to talk about, but not realistic or necessary (focusing on west end zone renovation as opposed to stadium expansion would have been preferred)

2) Not realistic under the current four-team playoff system

3) Didn't realize this had been said, but many at WMU would've appreciated it if this ever became a reality

4) Probably agree with this most, only because he backed up his talk enough that our program was (potentially, still is, with the right hire) positioned to string together a Boise-like run over a number of years

5) As a former MAC player, it seemed more likely he might've decided to stick around the MAC at least a little bit longer than other coaches