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RE: Kennesaw State should be in the Sun Belt Conference
(12-01-2017 11:40 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  
(11-30-2017 06:18 PM)RandomFan Wrote:  Since when is North Florida a strong basketball school? That conference wouldn't come close to 2 bids.


North Florida went to the 68 field tournament when they were the A-Sun champs a few years ago.

Five winning seasons (barely) in its history and one trip to the NCAA tourney a few years ago makes them a strong basketball school? Wow, that is beyond delusional.
12-02-2017 02:21 AM
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RE: Kennesaw State should be in the Sun Belt Conference
Kennesaw St beat #3 seed Jacksonville St to advance in the FCS quaterfinals.

W Florida has made the DII semifinals.

Impressive showings for such young programs. UCF never accomplished those runs.
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(12-02-2017 05:46 PM)NoDak Wrote:  Kennesaw St beat #3 seed Jacksonville St to advance in the FCS quaterfinals.

W Florida has made the DII semifinals.

Impressive showings for such young programs. UCF never accomplished those runs.

Kennesaw State upsets Jacksonville State

The Gamecocks, a team that is an FCS power with 18 appearances in the playoffs, including its sixth on the FCS level, featured one of the better running backs and rushing defenses in FCS this season, but the Owls, in their third season of football, bettered them strength on strength. Kennesaw State will face the winner of the Sam Houston State-South Dakota game in the next round."

http://www.ajc.com/sports/kennesaw-state...Upc1zmCqN/
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Exclamation point aside, UWF's Coleman left 'speechless' by Argos' run to final four.

UWF will travel to play Indiana (Pa.) next Saturday with a spot in the national championship game on the line.

http://www.pnj.com/story/sports/2017/12/...916707001/

UWF stuns West Alabama, advances to Division II national semifinals

http://www.pnj.com/story/sports/college/...915847001/
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Sam Houston State edges out Kennesaw State

"Sam Houston State comes up with a big defensive stop in the final moments to secure a 34-27 victory over Kennesaw State in the FCS Quarterfinals. Jeremiah Briscoe led the Bearkats offensive attack with 316 passing yards and 3 touchdowns."

Very impressive Owls. I think KSU is ready for the Sun Belt.

Meanwhile, UWF is playing for the National Championship in its second year of football.

West Florida stuns No. 1 seeded Indiana (Pa) to play for national championship


Both schools would be nice additions to the Sun Belt.
12-11-2017 10:17 AM
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RE: Kennesaw State should be in the Sun Belt Conference
(12-11-2017 10:17 AM)FloridaJag Wrote:  Sam Houston State edges out Kennesaw State

"Sam Houston State comes up with a big defensive stop in the final moments to secure a 34-27 victory over Kennesaw State in the FCS Quarterfinals. Jeremiah Briscoe led the Bearkats offensive attack with 316 passing yards and 3 touchdowns."

Very impressive Owls. I think KSU is ready for the Sun Belt.

Meanwhile, UWF is playing for the National Championship in its second year of football.

West Florida stuns No. 1 seeded Indiana (Pa) to play for national championship


Both schools would be nice additions to the Sun Belt.

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RE: Kennesaw State should be in the Sun Belt Conference
(12-11-2017 10:17 AM)FloridaJag Wrote:  Sam Houston State edges out Kennesaw State

"Sam Houston State comes up with a big defensive stop in the final moments to secure a 34-27 victory over Kennesaw State in the FCS Quarterfinals. Jeremiah Briscoe led the Bearkats offensive attack with 316 passing yards and 3 touchdowns."

Very impressive Owls. I think KSU is ready for the Sun Belt.

Meanwhile, UWF is playing for the National Championship in its second year of football.

West Florida stuns No. 1 seeded Indiana (Pa) to play for national championship


Both schools would be nice additions to the Sun Belt.

Let's not get ahead of ourselves. UWF should probably try out FCS football as a A-Sun member/Big South FB affiliate first. I'd fully support that move. Some of their Gulf South buddies could follow that same path too.
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RE: Kennesaw State should be in the Sun Belt Conference
(11-30-2017 10:55 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(11-30-2017 09:36 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  
(11-30-2017 01:16 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  If North Florida adds football? They could play in the pro stadium. Sun Belt would grab them before Kennesaw State.

Why?

Everyone keeps telling us the Sun Belt should add these random ass teams.

Sun Belt is in the sweet spot of CFP revenue sharing with 10 for football.
In other sports UALR and UTA make the travel work smoothly.
I need only look at 14 member CUSA to conclude that adding another football team will not increase the Sun Belt's media revenue so it will cost us money on the media side to add a team.
Based on what I see going on in basketball. Adding a team will reduce per member NCAA basketball revenue.

No one has remotely made the case for Northeastsouthwest Florida Tech or Cannonball State having such value that we should PAY to add them because that is what happens if the Sun Belt expands. We reduce our revenue and essentially pay to get a new school.

What's the pro for the Sun Belt? Synergistic upward social media hydrid fusion trends???

This is what we got for rescuing Idaho...the assumption that the Belt is the "Land of Misfit Toys" that are just everyone's 'fall back' option.

1) The Belt doesn't have a problem. We are compact, our footprint makes sense, we optimize our per school revenue, and our bowl slots make sense too.
2) For the first time in a long time (actually ever as a FB conference), the members are largely happy to be here. None of our current members feel that they 'have to leave' to be successful. We know we're all probably going to be with each other for quite some time.
3) There's no real threat to the league for the next couple of years, barring some truly unforeseen events
4) There are any number of fall back teams that can be poached if we need extra teams for football. And that's before we'd have to go to Kennesaw, or even Liberty. If we asked for applications to join the league as an all sport, we'd get about 30 serious applications, from teams from the Southland, Atlantic Sun, Ohio Valley, Southern, WAC, and possibly even the Missouri Valley and CAA. There are a LOT of teams, that have far better qualifications than Kennesaw or West Florida, that actually WANT to be in our league. And that's not just FCS schools looking to move up. The Belt is seen as a desirable league by many schools that don't play, and have no plans to play football.
5) Even after a bad year for us in football, and CUSA having a better than average year, the main source of our instability still is too damn big, and still might just get turned down by most of our members in the future.

The Belt might get even better if it could somehow get rid of Monroe and have Texas State move on (to tighten the footprint). Maybe then they could re-add one of the Florida twins.
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RE: Kennesaw State should be in the Sun Belt Conference
(12-11-2017 08:37 PM)_C2_ Wrote:  
(11-30-2017 10:55 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(11-30-2017 09:36 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  
(11-30-2017 01:16 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  If North Florida adds football? They could play in the pro stadium. Sun Belt would grab them before Kennesaw State.

Why?

Everyone keeps telling us the Sun Belt should add these random ass teams.

Sun Belt is in the sweet spot of CFP revenue sharing with 10 for football.
In other sports UALR and UTA make the travel work smoothly.
I need only look at 14 member CUSA to conclude that adding another football team will not increase the Sun Belt's media revenue so it will cost us money on the media side to add a team.
Based on what I see going on in basketball. Adding a team will reduce per member NCAA basketball revenue.

No one has remotely made the case for Northeastsouthwest Florida Tech or Cannonball State having such value that we should PAY to add them because that is what happens if the Sun Belt expands. We reduce our revenue and essentially pay to get a new school.

What's the pro for the Sun Belt? Synergistic upward social media hydrid fusion trends???

This is what we got for rescuing Idaho...the assumption that the Belt is the "Land of Misfit Toys" that are just everyone's 'fall back' option.

1) The Belt doesn't have a problem. We are compact, our footprint makes sense, we optimize our per school revenue, and our bowl slots make sense too.
2) For the first time in a long time (actually ever as a FB conference), the members are largely happy to be here. None of our current members feel that they 'have to leave' to be successful. We know we're all probably going to be with each other for quite some time.
3) There's no real threat to the league for the next couple of years, barring some truly unforeseen events
4) There are any number of fall back teams that can be poached if we need extra teams for football. And that's before we'd have to go to Kennesaw, or even Liberty. If we asked for applications to join the league as an all sport, we'd get about 30 serious applications, from teams from the Southland, Atlantic Sun, Ohio Valley, Southern, WAC, and possibly even the Missouri Valley and CAA. There are a LOT of teams, that have far better qualifications than Kennesaw or West Florida, that actually WANT to be in our league. And that's not just FCS schools looking to move up. The Belt is seen as a desirable league by many schools that don't play, and have no plans to play football.
5) Even after a bad year for us in football, and CUSA having a better than average year, the main source of our instability still is too damn big, and still might just get turned down by most of our members in the future.

The Belt might get even better if it could somehow get rid of Monroe and have Texas State move on (to tighten the footprint). Maybe then they could re-add one of the Florida twins.

That won't tighten the footprint. Texas State is closer to 3 SBC schools than the distance from Miami to Statesboro, which is the closest to Miami.
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It's still on the western most extreme. TXST is not close to anyone in the Belt except non-football Arlington. If they left, it would indeed tighten the footprint.
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