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Which teams would fire their head coach now if they could hire Chip Kelly?
Interesting item at the end of Bruce Feldman's column today...
http://www.foxsports.com/college-footbal...nks-010317
Quote:Chip Kelly was wildly successful as a college head coach and helped spark all sorts of innovation on and off the field. On Tuesday, about 36 hours after being fired as the 49ers head coach, Kelly told FOX Sports he’s open to coming back to the college game.
Quote:Sources have told FOX Sports there are a couple of schools contemplating making coaching changes this month if they could land Kelly.
So which P5 teams would you guess are these "couple of schools"?
I'll guess Arizona State and Arkansas.
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RE: Which teams would fire their head coach now if they could hire Chip Kelly?
Oregon
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RE: Which teams would fire their head coach now if they could hire Chip Kelly?
I'd guess California would be one. Dykes hasn't gotten the results in four years, and he is coming off a losing season.
Kelly isn't going back to college. He hates recruiting and the boosters. I'd guess he'd rather be an OC in the NFL than a head coach in college.
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RE: Which teams would fire their head coach now if they could hire Chip Kelly?
(01-03-2017 12:56 PM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote: Kelly isn't going back to college. He hates recruiting and the boosters. I'd guess he'd rather be an OC in the NFL than a head coach in college.
I don't know how any other head coach would want him. An offensive minded coach would want him to run his offense, not Kelly's. A defensive guy would murder him by midseason for being the cause of his team's defense to fail due to fatigue.
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RE: Which teams would fire their head coach now if they could hire Chip Kelly?
Temple. Back to Philadelphia babyyy!!
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RE: Which teams would fire their head coach now if they could hire Chip Kelly?
(01-03-2017 01:03 PM)adcorbett Wrote: (01-03-2017 12:56 PM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote: Kelly isn't going back to college. He hates recruiting and the boosters. I'd guess he'd rather be an OC in the NFL than a head coach in college.
I don't know how any other head coach would want him. An offensive minded coach would want him to run his offense, not Kelly's. A defensive guy would murder him by midseason for being the cause of his team's defense to fail due to fatigue.
Agreed.
I've seen the stories about how much he hates recruiting and boosters, which could certainly be true. However, my impression is that he needs 100% control even more, which points back to the college game (as no one in the NFL is letting him anywhere near a dual GM/Coach role again after his Eagles tenure).
I could see Chip Kelly flaming out in the NFL from the day he was hired by the Eagles: he is a classic "system" coach that was completely focused on finding and purging personnel to fit into his rigid schemes as opposed to adjusting his schemes to fit his personnel... and system coaches have short shelf lives in the NFL. The speed and talent is too evenly dispersed in the NFL for pure system coaches to ever have success (see also Steve Spurrier). The college coaches that have done well in both college and the NFL (such as Jimmy Johnson) knew how to adjust their systems to their personnel as opposed to trying to adjust their personnel to their systems.
Kelly must be a great interviewer since it was insane that the 49ers hired him in the first place last year after how awful he was in Philly. For better or worse, the NFL will humble any coach that thinks he's the smartest guy in the room. There's too much talent (both coaching and player-wise) for any coach to get too big for his britches.
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RE: Which teams would fire their head coach now if they could hire Chip Kelly?
Wonder if UCLA is ready to pull the trigger?
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RE: Which teams would fire their head coach now if they could hire Chip Kelly?
A school like Northwestern (hasn't contended for a B1G title in 11 years under current coach; was the OG lesser Oregon under Randy Walker) should roll the dice but won't.
There would be zero booster pressure on Chip, the school used to be a posterchild for gimmick offenses, won 3 B1G titles in 95-00, and plays in a very takeable B1G West.
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RE: Which teams would fire their head coach now if they could hire Chip Kelly?
Minnesota and Indiana both have situations where the coach is not secure. Indiana already has a team built for offense
Nebraska could force Riley out if they could get Kelly.
Tennessee could jump on this.
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RE: Which teams would fire their head coach now if they could hire Chip Kelly?
To be sure, I think Chip Kelly is an a*shole that doesn't fit well with the NFL... but he would still be a top tier elite in-demand college coach in the same way Spurrier was when he was cast off from the NFL. He's not going to end up at a Northwestern or Indiana-type school. Nebraska or Tennessee? Maybe. However, I think he might bide his time to see if another coach with the last name of Kelly ends up getting fired at Notre Dame by the end of next year. Once again, I believe the stories about him hating to deal with boosters, but every indication is that he also has a massive and monstrous ego (even by the insane egomaniac standards of football coaches in general) that wouldn't allow him to consider anything less than an "elite" college coaching job.
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RE: Which teams would fire their head coach now if they could hire Chip Kelly?
I don't see Kelly being an NFL head coach again, and his offenses did become predictable and largely inefficient (mostly due to personnel, which, again, was his own undoing).
However, I could definitely see him as an offensive analyst or assistant head coach/offense title in the NFL. I think giving him full offensive control would be a mistake, as his style of offense is much in the same vein as a June Jones.
Perhaps sitting out a year will create enough of a demand at the college level for him to reconsider coaching at that level. It'd be the only way he'd get full control over a football team again, and he definitely showed that he can lead a top college program.
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RE: Which teams would fire their head coach now if they could hire Chip Kelly?
(01-03-2017 12:56 PM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote: I'd guess California would be one. Dykes hasn't gotten the results in four years, and he is coming off a losing season.
I'm all for sending Dykes on his way, but the booster money for buyouts is not unlimited, and they'll wait at least another year so that the buyout is less expensive.
(01-03-2017 01:20 PM)arkstfan Wrote: Wonder if UCLA is ready to pull the trigger?
Kind of the same situation as Cal. IMO Mora gets at least one more year.
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RE: Which teams would fire their head coach now if they could hire Chip Kelly?
While I would like that school to be Nebraska, I think a school like Texas A&M may be his landing spot. Maybe Arizona. Maybe Maryland (Under Armor needs a winner at Maryland). Maybe BYU. Maybe Notre Dame. He would be a perfect person to follow Spurrier at South Carolina. South Carolina choose poorly.
Kelly needs a good recruiting area like California, Texas, or Florida to draw his skilled players.
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RE: Which teams would fire their head coach now if they could hire Chip Kelly?
(01-03-2017 01:57 PM)Wedge Wrote: (01-03-2017 12:56 PM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote: I'd guess California would be one. Dykes hasn't gotten the results in four years, and he is coming off a losing season.
I'm all for sending Dykes on his way, but the booster money for buyouts is not unlimited, and they'll wait at least another year so that the buyout is less expensive.
(01-03-2017 01:20 PM)arkstfan Wrote: Wonder if UCLA is ready to pull the trigger?
Kind of the same situation as Cal. IMO Mora gets at least one more year.
Probably same deal at TAMU as well though the Aggies might find money other schools can't.
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RE: Which teams would fire their head coach now if they could hire Chip Kelly?
Tennessee ....
They have won the championship of life already with Butch Jones. And they are disillusioned with what that gets them.
I think they'd jump all over the chance to get Chip Kelly.
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RE: Which teams would fire their head coach now if they could hire Chip Kelly?
(01-03-2017 01:45 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote: To be sure, I think Chip Kelly is an a*shole that doesn't fit well with the NFL... but he would still be a top tier elite in-demand college coach in the same way Spurrier was when he was cast off from the NFL. He's not going to end up at a Northwestern or Indiana-type school. Nebraska or Tennessee? Maybe. However, I think he might bide his time to see if another coach with the last name of Kelly ends up getting fired at Notre Dame by the end of next year. Once again, I believe the stories about him hating to deal with boosters, but every indication is that he also has a massive and monstrous ego (even by the insane egomaniac standards of football coaches in general) that wouldn't allow him to consider anything less than an "elite" college coaching job.
I don't think that Notre Dame would give him the degree of control and other things that he would want.
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RE: Which teams would fire their head coach now if they could hire Chip Kelly?
(01-03-2017 04:19 PM)TerryD Wrote: (01-03-2017 01:45 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote: To be sure, I think Chip Kelly is an a*shole that doesn't fit well with the NFL... but he would still be a top tier elite in-demand college coach in the same way Spurrier was when he was cast off from the NFL. He's not going to end up at a Northwestern or Indiana-type school. Nebraska or Tennessee? Maybe. However, I think he might bide his time to see if another coach with the last name of Kelly ends up getting fired at Notre Dame by the end of next year. Once again, I believe the stories about him hating to deal with boosters, but every indication is that he also has a massive and monstrous ego (even by the insane egomaniac standards of football coaches in general) that wouldn't allow him to consider anything less than an "elite" college coaching job.
I don't think that Notre Dame would give him the degree of control and other things that he would want.
Yeah seems like the sort of guy who would bristle under the control.
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01-03-2017 05:19 PM |
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RE: Which teams would fire their head coach now if they could hire Chip Kelly?
Nebraska would certainly look at Chip IMO. They have all the money and facilities for a NC run but haven't had a good coach or elite recruiting class in nearly 20 years.
Tennessee would fire Butch in a heartbeat for Chip.
aTm would likely show Sumlin the door for Chip. They have the $ as well.
LSU and USC would probably love to but simply can't die to how teams finished and existing contracts.
So the real question is would Oregon write a Nike check to make Taggart go away and bring Chip back. That would be absolutely hilarious.
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RE: Which teams would fire their head coach now if they could hire Chip Kelly?
(01-03-2017 04:00 PM)Pervis_Griffith Wrote: Tennessee ....
They have won the championship of life already with Butch Jones. And they are disillusioned with what that gets them.
I think they'd jump all over the chance to get Chip Kelly.
We are going to settle for Helfrich as OC. We need stability alot more than we need to attempt to get the big name coach. (I.e, knowing TN, I think we would fire Butch Jones only to wind up with an Orgeron type coach, like LSU fired Miles thinking they could get Fisher/Herman.)
Though if Kelly is available next year and we lose to Vandy again all bets are off.
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RE: Which teams would fire their head coach now if they could hire Chip Kelly?
(01-03-2017 06:33 PM)Soobahk40050 Wrote: (01-03-2017 04:00 PM)Pervis_Griffith Wrote: Tennessee ....
They have won the championship of life already with Butch Jones. And they are disillusioned with what that gets them.
I think they'd jump all over the chance to get Chip Kelly.
We are going to settle for Helfrich as OC. We need stability alot more than we need to attempt to get the big name coach. (I.e, knowing TN, I think we would fire Butch Jones only to wind up with an Orgeron type coach, like LSU fired Miles thinking they could get Fisher/Herman.)
Though if Kelly is available next year and we lose to Vandy again all bets are off.
I watched the Nebraska game and was really unimpressed with both schools. Tennessee should have beaten them up badly but just didn't. I think the Vols were better when OU played them than this year.
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