(01-12-2017 09:42 AM)emu steve Wrote:  

(01-12-2017 07:58 AM)emu79 Wrote:  So it looks like WMU is going to offer a salary of in excess of a $1,000,000 per year

And try to become the 'Boise of the Midwest'...

The ONLY way all of this works is if the candidates believe the WMU is a future power and not a one time wonder (e.g., like BG a few years ago).

If one can build a P5-caliber team in a G5 conference why not? It works for Boise...

Fleck was a 1 time, totally lucky anomaly for WMU. They are way too full of themselves, at one time talking about Les Miles, paying some big name 2-3 million per year, blah,blah, blah. They are delusional! If they pay one of these guys a million bucks, that is even more crazy. The boosters paid Fleck when they could see the ROI, they are not just going to overpay a total unknown up front.

Seems their 3 interviews so far are Lester, Wheatley, and some guy named McPherson at NW. 3 big reaches with little to no head coaching or coordinator experience. All 3 could bomb spectacularly, just as easily as they could have success.

Great news for EMU, if one of those 3 is hired. As I've always said, in the MAC you're 1 head coach away from great, average, or crap.

(01-12-2017 12:33 PM)EagleTough Wrote:  

(01-12-2017 09:42 AM)emu steve Wrote:  

(01-12-2017 07:58 AM)emu79 Wrote:  So it looks like WMU is going to offer a salary of in excess of a $1,000,000 per year

And try to become the 'Boise of the Midwest'...

The ONLY way all of this works is if the candidates believe the WMU is a future power and not a one time wonder (e.g., like BG a few years ago).

If one can build a P5-caliber team in a G5 conference why not? It works for Boise...

Fleck was a 1 time, totally lucky anomaly for WMU. They are way too full of themselves, at one time talking about Les Miles, paying some big name 2-3 million per year, blah,blah, blah. They are delusional! If they pay one of these guys a million bucks, that is even more crazy. The boosters paid Fleck when they could see the ROI, they are not just going to overpay a total unknown up front.

Seems their 3 interviews so far are Lester, Wheatley, and some guy named McPherson at NW. 3 big reaches with little to no head coaching or coordinator experience. All 3 could bomb spectacularly, just as easily as they could have success.

Great news for EMU, if one of those 3 is hired. As I've always said, in the MAC you're 1 head coach away from great, average, or crap.

I'm reading the same stuff, I think, as you.

I doubt any of these three would be selected.

I think WMU will do better.

(01-12-2017 12:33 PM)EagleTough Wrote:  

(01-12-2017 09:42 AM)emu steve Wrote:  

(01-12-2017 07:58 AM)emu79 Wrote:  So it looks like WMU is going to offer a salary of in excess of a $1,000,000 per year

And try to become the 'Boise of the Midwest'...

The ONLY way all of this works is if the candidates believe the WMU is a future power and not a one time wonder (e.g., like BG a few years ago).

If one can build a P5-caliber team in a G5 conference why not? It works for Boise...

Fleck was a 1 time, totally lucky anomaly for WMU. They are way too full of themselves, at one time talking about Les Miles, paying some big name 2-3 million per year, blah,blah, blah. They are delusional! If they pay one of these guys a million bucks, that is even more crazy. The boosters paid Fleck when they could see the ROI, they are not just going to overpay a total unknown up front.

Seems their 3 interviews so far are Lester, Wheatley, and some guy named McPherson at NW. 3 big reaches with little to no head coaching or coordinator experience. All 3 could bomb spectacularly, just as easily as they could have success.

Great news for EMU, if one of those 3 is hired. As I've always said, in the MAC you're 1 head coach away from great, average, or crap.

Great post ET!

It's not EMU can't play football in seasons past, it's because of the bad hire after bad hire.....

(01-12-2017 12:33 PM)EagleTough Wrote:  

(01-12-2017 09:42 AM)emu steve Wrote:  

(01-12-2017 07:58 AM)emu79 Wrote:  So it looks like WMU is going to offer a salary of in excess of a $1,000,000 per year

And try to become the 'Boise of the Midwest'...

The ONLY way all of this works is if the candidates believe the WMU is a future power and not a one time wonder (e.g., like BG a few years ago).

If one can build a P5-caliber team in a G5 conference why not? It works for Boise...

Fleck was a 1 time, totally lucky anomaly for WMU. They are way too full of themselves, at one time talking about Les Miles, paying some big name 2-3 million per year, blah,blah, blah. They are delusional! If they pay one of these guys a million bucks, that is even more crazy. The boosters paid Fleck when they could see the ROI, they are not just going to overpay a total unknown up front.

Seems their 3 interviews so far are Lester, Wheatley, and some guy named McPherson at NW. 3 big reaches with little to no head coaching or coordinator experience. All 3 could bomb spectacularly, just as easily as they could have success.

Great news for EMU, if one of those 3 is hired. As I've always said, in the MAC you're 1 head coach away from great, average, or crap.

"They" was essentially one person posting non-stop about Les Miles.

But anyhow, we're hiring... Tim Lester.

Your chance at a MAC West title next season just got a little better.

Who knows? Lots of you were underwhelmed by Fleck's hire too, from what I remember.

(01-13-2017 07:19 PM)EagleSam Wrote:  Who knows? Lots of you were underwhelmed by Fleck's hire too, from what I remember.

I know, I feel underwhelmed at the moment, but our AD's made some good hires over her tenure and Lester could be successful. Just feels "meh" at the moment.

Wow. Lester incredibly underwhelming based on initial expectations from their fans.

Apparently their AD wanted Lester 4 years ago and the President overruled her in favor of Fleck.

She was incredibly wrong the first time........hopefully for Bronco fans she is not incredibly wrong this time!

Just glad Fleck is gone so we now have a chance, haha.

I'm not sure about Miles, but lot of chatter about the UofM OC.

Coordinators from TOP programs should be in great demand.

My guess: Maybe Lester is good X and Os. How will he be for recruiting?

No one can deny that P.J. recruited like crazy. He had the best talent in the MAC.

The real question is how long does Fleck stay at Minnesota before he takes over Notre Dame?

Kudos for WMU for treating their former stars/alumni with respect and giving them a chance.

EMU doesn't even look at their legacy players.

Dear Bob,
What you have said about legacy players is just not true. Check the Hall of Fame. Wasn't T.J. Lang brought in last year to speak to the team. I'm sure if I did some research I could find more examples.

(01-14-2017 10:32 AM)Ken Barna Wrote:  Dear Bob,
What you have said about legacy players is just not true. Check the Hall of Fame. Wasn't T.J. Lang brought in last year to speak to the team. I'm sure if I did some research I could find more examples.

Oh really? What does a current NFL All-Pro speaking to the team have to do with a former player being considered for a coaching position?

(01-14-2017 09:52 AM)Bob Wickersham Wrote:  The real question is how long does Fleck stay at Minnesota before he takes over Notre Dame?

Kudos for WMU for treating their former stars/alumni with respect and giving them a chance.

EMU doesn't even look at their legacy players.

Bob,
How many EMU football alums are coaching these days? Banazcak had been considered for head coach a while back. I dont even know if there is anyone out there clamoring to get back to EMU. Do you know of any other former players that have tried to coach at their alma mater?

I'm so glad that WMU hired Tim Lester. Let's win the MAC next year!

(01-14-2017 12:41 PM)EMU03 Wrote:  

(01-14-2017 09:52 AM)Bob Wickersham Wrote:  The real question is how long does Fleck stay at Minnesota before he takes over Notre Dame?

Kudos for WMU for treating their former stars/alumni with respect and giving them a chance.

EMU doesn't even look at their legacy players.

Bob,
How many EMU football alums are coaching these days? Banazcak had been considered for head coach a while back. I dont even know if there is anyone out there clamoring to get back to EMU. Do you know of any other former players that have tried to coach at their alma mater?

Currently, not sure. The window closes quickly. Guys like John Banaszak and Ron Adams would have been solid candidates...in basketball, Lorenzo Neely would have been high on MY list and with Murphy's tenure winding down, I would really like to see Earl Boykins get SERIOUS consideration.

(01-14-2017 01:17 PM)Bob Wickersham Wrote:  

(01-14-2017 12:41 PM)EMU03 Wrote:  

(01-14-2017 09:52 AM)Bob Wickersham Wrote:  The real question is how long does Fleck stay at Minnesota before he takes over Notre Dame?

Kudos for WMU for treating their former stars/alumni with respect and giving them a chance.

EMU doesn't even look at their legacy players.

Bob,
How many EMU football alums are coaching these days? Banazcak had been considered for head coach a while back. I dont even know if there is anyone out there clamoring to get back to EMU. Do you know of any other former players that have tried to coach at their alma mater?

Currently, not sure. The window closes quickly. Guys like John Banaszak and Ron Adams would have been solid candidates...in basketball, Lorenzo Neely would have been high on MY list and with Murphy's tenure winding down, I would really like to see Earl Boykins get SERIOUS consideration.

I was hoping that Charlie Batch would become our QB coach.

How is Mr Boykins doing as a highschool coach?

Dear Bob,
Excuse me for not reading more closely, and putting my own thoughts into it. Now I see what you meant.
Giving Lester a shot doesn't necessarily mean he will be the coach they need. That is why, or at least one of the reasons why Banazak did not get the job at Eastern. I haven't followed him at Robert Morris. How is he doing there?

I think we should kill this Thread! Who cares about WMU football!!!

We are going to be 2017 MAC Basketball and Football Champions!

(01-13-2017 07:53 PM)EagleTough Wrote:  Wow. Lester incredibly underwhelming based on initial expectations from their fans.

Apparently their AD wanted Lester 4 years ago and the President overruled her in favor of Fleck.

She was incredibly wrong the first time........hopefully for Bronco fans she is not incredibly wrong this time!

Just glad Fleck is gone so we now have a chance, haha.

We don't know that she was wrong. We know that PJ worked out well for WMU, but maybe if Lester was hired first he doesn't lose 11 games his first year and wins multiple MACCs in 4 years, not just one and off to minny? Don't know, but I think the program is in excellent shape with him leading the way.

Dear Bronc33,
The one liability Western has, is a quarterback with no experience. What the MAC has proven through the years is that quarterbacks are important to winning. Generally, those that have quarterbacks with no, or limited experience, don't do well.

(01-14-2017 06:24 PM)Luckeyone Wrote:  I think we should kill this Thread! Who cares about WMU football!!!

We are going to be 2017 MAC Basketball and Football Champions!

Good idea. Lester hired, who cares, back to EMU.

Plus, Bob invaded the thread with his BS so that's also a sure sign the thread is over.