Not to those who don't have a team

(01-01-2017 09:04 PM)shizzle787 Wrote:  

(01-01-2017 08:42 PM)ultraviolet Wrote:  

(01-01-2017 06:15 PM)shizzle787 Wrote:  Would the Big East add UConn, Cincy, Memphis, and Temple if they went independent in football? I realize that Cincy and Temple could be blackballed due to Xavier and Nova respectively, but if FOX threw in more money in the pot, and agreed to help out the four with a few football games against one another, what is stopping them.

In football, all of the schools could play each other, BYU, Army, and UMass every year, and each would likely schedule an FCS team. The first five weeks of the season could be H/H with P5s. Thoughts?

Awe how cute. There's still naive people out there that think basketball is remotely close to football in importance. Don't ever change. It's quaint.

Considering the BE schools make more TV money than the AAC, and they don't even play football as a conference, basketball still matters.

Only a UConn fan would post something like this. We can't help that you have crappy football

(01-01-2017 09:04 PM)shizzle787 Wrote:  

(01-01-2017 08:42 PM)ultraviolet Wrote:  

(01-01-2017 06:15 PM)shizzle787 Wrote:  Would the Big East add UConn, Cincy, Memphis, and Temple if they went independent in football? I realize that Cincy and Temple could be blackballed due to Xavier and Nova respectively, but if FOX threw in more money in the pot, and agreed to help out the four with a few football games against one another, what is stopping them.

In football, all of the schools could play each other, BYU, Army, and UMass every year, and each would likely schedule an FCS team. The first five weeks of the season could be H/H with P5s. Thoughts?

Awe how cute. There's still naive people out there that think basketball is remotely close to football in importance. Don't ever change. It's quaint.

Considering the BE schools make more TV money than the AAC, and they don't even play football as a conference, basketball still matters.

They agreed to start up a channel that nobody was going to watch. Ratings might be getting slightly better, but still no espn.

I think UConn should go and test the waters and report back in four years.
The AAC will hold on to the NCAA credits and distribute then to the rest of the conference after four years. In the meantime we'll bring in UMass as a replacement for them and we shouldn't miss a beat.

PS... Please come and get Cincinnati after that, Southern Miss, UTSA of Georgia State would easily make everyone forget that Cincinnati was ever here.

Bye bye

(01-02-2017 12:59 AM)BEAST Football Wrote:  PS... Please come and get Cincinnati after that, Southern Miss, UTSA of Georgia State would easily make everyone forget that Cincinnati was ever here.

This is literally the dumbest post I have ever seen on these pages...and that is saying something.

If you really think Southern Miss, UTSA, and Georgia State would actually replace Cincinnati and "easily make everyone forget Cincinnati was ever here." then you are dumber than a box of rocks.

But the fact is that UC would not notice much of an issue switching Marshall, LaTech, or Toledo for ECU, Tulane, and/or Tulsa... Actually, I take that back. We would notice somethings: the crowds would be playing in front of bigger crowds at those places, the quality of BB would be greater, and our RPI wouldn't take nearly the beating that it does playing ECU, Tulane, and/or Tulsa.

(01-02-2017 10:43 AM)BigHouston Wrote:  Bye bye

Bigger crowds at Marshall, LaTech, and Toledo than at Houston as well...

See ya.

(01-02-2017 12:59 AM)BEAST Football Wrote:  PS... Please come and get Cincinnati after that, Southern Miss, UTSA of Georgia State would easily make everyone forget that Cincinnati was ever here.

Out of that entire list, I only see Southern Miss as a team that we would want in the AAC if we lose a member. Cincy isn't going anywhere....Uconn isn't going anywhere. Let's give up the nonsense.

(01-01-2017 06:15 PM)shizzle787 Wrote:  Would the Big East add UConn, Cincy, Memphis, and Temple if they went independent in football? I realize that Cincy and Temple could be blackballed due to Xavier and Nova respectively, but if FOX threw in more money in the pot, and agreed to help out the four with a few football games against one another, what is stopping them.

In football, all of the schools could play each other, BYU, Army, and UMass every year, and each would likely schedule an FCS team. The first five weeks of the season could be H/H with P5s. Thoughts?

Hey everybody. Just stopping by.

OP: No. No we would not.

(01-02-2017 11:16 AM)johnbragg Wrote:  

(01-01-2017 06:15 PM)shizzle787 Wrote:  Would the Big East add UConn, Cincy, Memphis, and Temple if they went independent in football? I realize that Cincy and Temple could be blackballed due to Xavier and Nova respectively, but if FOX threw in more money in the pot, and agreed to help out the four with a few football games against one another, what is stopping them.

In football, all of the schools could play each other, BYU, Army, and UMass every year, and each would likely schedule an FCS team. The first five weeks of the season could be H/H with P5s. Thoughts?

Hey everybody. Just stopping by.

OP: No. No we would not.

Just popping in with JohnBragg.

As is the case with any realignment decision, if the money is there, and there is opportunity, the fine details can work themselves out.

Initial response would be no way would the Big East want the headache that is football again. The C7 dealt with that for a long time (Villanova, Georgetown, St. Johns, Seton Hall and Providence much longer). There is also the hurdle of duplicate markets in Cincinnati (UC) and Philadelphia (Temple).

However, the Big East is a basketball-first league. If Fox offers enough incentive and TV money to those schools (UC, Temple, UConn, Memphis) for a Big East non-football membership, and the BE Presidents are convinced that they make more money with those schools than without, then there is definitely a possibility something like that could happen.

Those four schools, along with Army, BYU, and UMass would offer enough of a football scheduling alliance to create the backbone of a year-to-year schedule. Again, however, there needs to be enough financial incentive for those schools to want to pursue that - otherwise it's a moot point.

I think there is a very, very low probability of something like this ever occurring, but perhaps if a select group of AAC schools float this idea around in advance of their next negotiations, they could get more money out of ESPN (or whomever is their next provider).

(01-02-2017 12:11 PM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  

(01-02-2017 11:16 AM)johnbragg Wrote:  

(01-01-2017 06:15 PM)shizzle787 Wrote:  Would the Big East add UConn, Cincy, Memphis, and Temple if they went independent in football? I realize that Cincy and Temple could be blackballed due to Xavier and Nova respectively, but if FOX threw in more money in the pot, and agreed to help out the four with a few football games against one another, what is stopping them.

In football, all of the schools could play each other, BYU, Army, and UMass every year, and each would likely schedule an FCS team. The first five weeks of the season could be H/H with P5s. Thoughts?

Hey everybody. Just stopping by.

OP: No. No we would not.

Just popping in with JohnBragg.

As is the case with any realignment decision, if the money is there, and there is opportunity, the fine details can work themselves out.

Initial response would be no way would the Big East want the headache that is football again. The C7 dealt with that for a long time (Villanova, Georgetown, St. Johns, Seton Hall and Providence much longer). There is also the hurdle of duplicate markets in Cincinnati (UC) and Philadelphia (Temple).

However, the Big East is a basketball-first league. If Fox offers enough incentive and TV money to those schools (UC, Temple, UConn, Memphis) for a Big East non-football membership, and the BE Presidents are convinced that they make more money with those schools than without, then there is definitely a possibility something like that could happen.

Those four schools, along with Army, BYU, and UMass would offer enough of a football scheduling alliance to create the backbone of a year-to-year schedule. Again, however, there needs to be enough financial incentive for those schools to want to pursue that - otherwise it's a moot point.

I think there is a very, very low probability of something like this ever occurring, but perhaps if a select group of AAC schools float this idea around in advance of their next negotiations, they could get more money out of ESPN (or whomever is their next provider).

Nobody is in favor of this but UConn fans and BCat#1

(01-01-2017 06:15 PM)shizzle787 Wrote:  Would the Big East add UConn, Cincy, Memphis, and Temple if they went independent in football? I realize that Cincy and Temple could be blackballed due to Xavier and Nova respectively, but if FOX threw in more money in the pot, and agreed to help out the four with a few football games against one another, what is stopping them.

In football, all of the schools could play each other, BYU, Army, and UMass every year, and each would likely schedule an FCS team. The first five weeks of the season could be H/H with P5s. Thoughts?

Dude ... some of you are so whimsical! You're ready to make a change at the drop of a hat ... !!! The conference is fine. Yeah, it could use a little tweaking, but we've got a nice overall conference.

All we really need is a better TV deal to help get this thing rocking ... !! Going to 14 teams with another football only and solid Olympic sports program (I.e., basketball) wouldn't hurt either ...

(01-01-2017 06:15 PM)shizzle787 Wrote:  Would the Big East add UConn, Cincy, Memphis, and Temple if they went independent in football? I realize that Cincy and Temple could be blackballed due to Xavier and Nova respectively, but if FOX threw in more money in the pot, and agreed to help out the four with a few football games against one another, what is stopping them.

In football, all of the schools could play each other, BYU, Army, and UMass every year, and each would likely schedule an FCS team. The first five weeks of the season could be H/H with P5s. Thoughts?

UConn needs to worry about being competitive in AAC again before worry about BE.

(01-02-2017 01:41 PM)TonyTiger06 Wrote:  

(01-01-2017 06:15 PM)shizzle787 Wrote:  

All we really need is a better TV deal to help get this thing rocking ... !! Going to 14 teams with another football only and solid Olympic sports program (I.e., basketball) wouldn't hurt either ...

wouldn't that be 13-12

(01-01-2017 09:04 PM)shizzle787 Wrote:  

(01-01-2017 08:42 PM)ultraviolet Wrote:  

(01-01-2017 06:15 PM)shizzle787 Wrote:  Would the Big East add UConn, Cincy, Memphis, and Temple if they went independent in football? I realize that Cincy and Temple could be blackballed due to Xavier and Nova respectively, but if FOX threw in more money in the pot, and agreed to help out the four with a few football games against one another, what is stopping them.

In football, all of the schools could play each other, BYU, Army, and UMass every year, and each would likely schedule an FCS team. The first five weeks of the season could be H/H with P5s. Thoughts?

Awe how cute. There's still naive people out there that think basketball is remotely close to football in importance. Don't ever change. It's quaint.

Considering the BE schools make more TV money than the AAC, and they don't even play football as a conference, basketball still matters.

That is a conference leadership problem. That is not necessarily a conference membership problem.

(01-02-2017 04:14 PM)goodknightfl Wrote:  

(01-02-2017 01:41 PM)TonyTiger06 Wrote:  

(01-01-2017 06:15 PM)shizzle787 Wrote:  

All we really need is a better TV deal to help get this thing rocking ... !! Going to 14 teams with another football only and solid Olympic sports program (I.e., basketball) wouldn't hurt either ...

wouldn't that be 13-12

You misunderstood what I meant by Olympic sports team. I referring to an all sports program that is known for having good basketball, such as SDSU or UNLV. I apologize for the poor description.

I think that the longer we are in the current AAC contract, the more attractive the Big East contract deal will become to programs like UConn. To be honest, I thought the current TV deal was only for 3 or 4 years when it was first reported.

That I could understand ... "from a we need exposure standpoint." Now, I'm beginning to feel like the conference is just getting played ...

(01-01-2017 06:15 PM)shizzle787 Wrote:  Would the Big East add UConn, Cincy, Memphis, and Temple if they went independent in football? I realize that Cincy and Temple could be blackballed due to Xavier and Nova respectively, but if FOX threw in more money in the pot, and agreed to help out the four with a few football games against one another, what is stopping them.

In football, all of the schools could play each other, BYU, Army, and UMass every year, and each would likely schedule an FCS team. The first five weeks of the season could be H/H with P5s. Thoughts?

Houston crushed UConn. At UConn.

UConn has no business dreaming about joining a tougher conference. The Huskies have all they can handle in this conference.

(01-02-2017 11:12 AM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  

(01-02-2017 12:59 AM)BEAST Football Wrote:  PS... Please come and get Cincinnati after that, Southern Miss, UTSA of Georgia State would easily make everyone forget that Cincinnati was ever here.

This is literally the dumbest post I have ever seen on these pages...and that is saying something.

If you really think Southern Miss, UTSA, and Georgia State would actually replace Cincinnati and "easily make everyone forget Cincinnati was ever here." then you are dumber than a box of rocks.

But the fact is that UC would not notice much of an issue switching Marshall, LaTech, or Toledo for ECU, Tulane, and/or Tulsa... Actually, I take that back. We would notice somethings: the crowds would be playing in front of bigger crowds at those places, the quality of BB would be greater, and our RPI wouldn't take nearly the beating that it does playing ECU, Tulane, and/or Tulsa.

Tulsa has made 2 NCAAs & 1 NIT in the last 3 years. We are down this season with 9 newcomers. Tulsa is traditionally good in basketball. We also are carrying our weight in football.

(01-02-2017 11:16 AM)johnbragg Wrote:  

(01-01-2017 06:15 PM)shizzle787 Wrote:  Would the Big East add UConn, Cincy, Memphis, and Temple if they went independent in football? I realize that Cincy and Temple could be blackballed due to Xavier and Nova respectively, but if FOX threw in more money in the pot, and agreed to help out the four with a few football games against one another, what is stopping them.

In football, all of the schools could play each other, BYU, Army, and UMass every year, and each would likely schedule an FCS team. The first five weeks of the season could be H/H with P5s. Thoughts?

Hey everybody. Just stopping by.

OP: No. No we would not.

Yes, because St. John's loves playing DePaul and Creighton, teams they can occasionally beat, rather than Cincinnati and Connecticut, who they would rarely beat.