Had either of those games had a G5 team as the loser...

The talk would be the G5 team does not belong on the field with the P5

The truth is the rest of the so called P5 schools can't compete with a Alabama or Clemson either.

So this year you had the P2 Alabama & Clemson
and the G-126 everyone else.

PS Note to the American Conference, No need to make anymore P6 stickers after your bowl performance you are a lock
for the G-126

(01-01-2017 09:18 AM)Hilltop75 Wrote:  Had either of those games had a G5 team as the loser...

The talk would be the G5 team does not belong on the field with the P5

The truth is the rest of the so called P5 schools can't compete with a Alabama or Clemson either.

So this year you had the P2 Alabama & Clemson
and the G-126 everyone else.

Truth!

Hope Western Michigan either wins, or at least plays a heck of a game. Last year Houston represented we G5 well beating FSU.

(01-01-2017 09:18 AM)Hilltop75 Wrote:  Had either of those games had a G5 team as the loser...

The talk would be the G5 team does not belong on the field with the P5

The truth is the rest of the so called P5 schools can't compete with a Alabama or Clemson either.

So this year you had the P2 Alabama & Clemson
and the G-126 everyone else.

PS Note to the American Conference, No need to make anymore P6 stickers after your bowl performance you are a lock
for the G-126

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Really? Clemson had 7 games decided by a TD or less. Now this is more true about Alabama. Now if LSU had a good offense they could've beat Alabama. Ohio State should've not been here. These games are often about match ups and the OSU offense is just too one dimensional.

A good team from the South will always beat a good Big Ten team. They just don't have the speed to compete with us.

I'm a Clemson fan, but don't think Tigers will be as lucky playing like that vs. Bama

(01-01-2017 11:01 AM)techdawg88 Wrote:  I'm a Clemson fan, but don't think Tigers will be as lucky playing like that vs. Bama

Clemson has speed side to side and their front 5 is as good as anyone. If they can stop the Alabama run and make Hurt try and throw the ball down the middle, then they have a chance to win the game. If not it will look a lot like the Washington game.

(01-01-2017 09:18 AM)Hilltop75 Wrote:  Had either of those games had a G5 team as the loser...

The talk would be the G5 team does not belong on the field with the P5

The truth is the rest of the so called P5 schools can't compete with a Alabama or Clemson either.

So this year you had the P2 Alabama & Clemson
and the G-126 everyone else.

PS Note to the American Conference, No need to make anymore P6 stickers after your bowl performance you are a lock
for the G-126

Here we go again. Yes, the talk would've indeed been that the G5 wouldn't have belonged on the same field, and that's because no G5 has shown they've earned the right to be on that field, and in that game.

Washington was dominated, but they went 12-1 against the nation's 16th ranked schedule coming into the game, beating Stanford (10-3) 44-7, Utah (9-4) 31-24, Washington State (8-5) 45-17, and Colorado (10-4) 41-10 in the process.

Ohio State was also dominated, but they were likewise 11-1 against the nation's #1 ranked schedule coming into the game, beating Oklahoma (10-2) 45-24, Wisconsin (10-3) 30-23, Nebraska (9-4) 62-3, and Michigan (10-3) 30-27 in the process.

Washington's 17-point loss to Alabama no more means they can't compete with them than their only other loss, a 13-point decision to USC (9-3) means they can't compete with USC. Likewise, Ohio State's 31-0 destruction by Clemson doesn't mean they can't compete with Clemson any more than their 21-point win over OU means OU can't compete with them. Blowouts sometimes happen between good teams. We all know this. The aggregate of a team's other results is a more accurate reflection of their quality than a single bad game.

Sometimes it just comes down to bad match-ups.

(01-01-2017 09:18 AM)Hilltop75 Wrote:  Had either of those games had a G5 team as the loser...

The talk would be the G5 team does not belong on the field with the P5

The truth is the rest of the so called P5 schools can't compete with a Alabama or Clemson either.

So this year you had the P2 Alabama & Clemson
and the G-126 everyone else.

PS Note to the American Conference, No need to make anymore P6 stickers after your bowl performance you are a lock
for the G-126

Until somebody in the SEC proves they can beat Alabama, they should change the "SEC..SEC..SEC" chant to "SEC and the 13 dwarfs".

Alabama and Clemson are clearly the two best teams in the country and they deserve to play in the championship.

Don't fool yourself however and believe that just because Washington and Ohio St. got blown out that everyone else is somehow on their level.

The P5 is a whole different league.

Give us that PAC 12 money and see what happens.By the way if you are such a P5-PAC12 fan why are you on the "lowly" C-USA board ? I guess you are hear just to stir the pot or maybe to squash us G5 insects.

(01-02-2017 02:12 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Alabama and Clemson are clearly the two best teams in the country and they deserve to play in the championship.

Don't fool yourself however and believe that just because Washington and Ohio St. got blown out that everyone else is somehow on their level.

The P5 is a whole different league.

I seem to remember startup UTSA giving your PAC-12 a run for the money on several occasions over the last several years. And with Washington getting blown out I'm afraid the PAC-12 doesn't belong, either, and will need to move down.

(01-02-2017 02:48 PM)MUther Wrote:  

(01-02-2017 02:12 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Alabama and Clemson are clearly the two best teams in the country and they deserve to play in the championship.

Don't fool yourself however and believe that just because Washington and Ohio St. got blown out that everyone else is somehow on their level.

The P5 is a whole different league.

I seem to remember startup UTSA giving your PAC-12 a run for the money on several occasions over the last several years. And with Washington getting blown out I'm afraid the PAC-12 doesn't belong, either, and will need to move down.

Last time I checked, there were two PAC 12 teams in the New Year's Six bowls and one of them in the final four.

I think you mean Big 12 is the conference that doesn't belong.

(01-02-2017 03:03 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(01-02-2017 02:48 PM)MUther Wrote:  

(01-02-2017 02:12 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Alabama and Clemson are clearly the two best teams in the country and they deserve to play in the championship.

Don't fool yourself however and believe that just because Washington and Ohio St. got blown out that everyone else is somehow on their level.

The P5 is a whole different league.

I seem to remember startup UTSA giving your PAC-12 a run for the money on several occasions over the last several years. And with Washington getting blown out I'm afraid the PAC-12 doesn't belong, either, and will need to move down.

Last time I checked, there were two PAC 12 teams in the New Year's Six bowls and one of them in the final four.

I think you mean Big 12 is the conference that doesn't belong.

From the looks of how Washington got manhandled, it's VERY CLEAR that the PAC 12 is subpar. But that's the point....there's only about 6 to 10 P5 programs each year that are truly playing on "another level". Outside of that, the rest of the P5 is susceptible to a solid aaarse whipping any day from a G5.

(01-02-2017 03:10 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  

(01-02-2017 03:03 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(01-02-2017 02:48 PM)MUther Wrote:  

(01-02-2017 02:12 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Alabama and Clemson are clearly the two best teams in the country and they deserve to play in the championship.

Don't fool yourself however and believe that just because Washington and Ohio St. got blown out that everyone else is somehow on their level.

The P5 is a whole different league.

I seem to remember startup UTSA giving your PAC-12 a run for the money on several occasions over the last several years. And with Washington getting blown out I'm afraid the PAC-12 doesn't belong, either, and will need to move down.

Last time I checked, there were two PAC 12 teams in the New Year's Six bowls and one of them in the final four.

I think you mean Big 12 is the conference that doesn't belong.

From the looks of how Washington got manhandled, it's VERY CLEAR that the PAC 12 is subpar. But that's the point....there's only about 6 to 10 P5 programs each year that are truly playing on "another level". Outside of that, the rest of the P5 is susceptible to a solid aaarse whipping any day from a G5.

Alabama is on another level.

Then it's p5 then its g5

The PAC 12 had a down year because Oregon and Stanford weren't where they usually are.

Once again however, don't let that fool anyone. P5 is clearly on another level

And as for Washington, they weren't even supposed to be this good this year. Most people think next year is going to be their year.

DRONE on... with the P5 props.Sick of your crap--get out of here!

(01-02-2017 03:14 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(01-02-2017 03:10 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  

(01-02-2017 03:03 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(01-02-2017 02:48 PM)MUther Wrote:  

(01-02-2017 02:12 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Alabama and Clemson are clearly the two best teams in the country and they deserve to play in the championship.

Don't fool yourself however and believe that just because Washington and Ohio St. got blown out that everyone else is somehow on their level.

The P5 is a whole different league.

I seem to remember startup UTSA giving your PAC-12 a run for the money on several occasions over the last several years. And with Washington getting blown out I'm afraid the PAC-12 doesn't belong, either, and will need to move down.

Last time I checked, there were two PAC 12 teams in the New Year's Six bowls and one of them in the final four.

I think you mean Big 12 is the conference that doesn't belong.

From the looks of how Washington got manhandled, it's VERY CLEAR that the PAC 12 is subpar. But that's the point....there's only about 6 to 10 P5 programs each year that are truly playing on "another level". Outside of that, the rest of the P5 is susceptible to a solid aaarse whipping any day from a G5.

Alabama is on another level.

Then it's p5 then its g5

The PAC 12 had a down year because Oregon and Stanford weren't where they usually are.

Once again however, don't let that fool anyone. P5 is clearly on another level

And as for Washington, they weren't even supposed to be this good this year. Most people think next year is going to be their year.

If they wasnt very good, that dont say well for the PAC12. And Washington wasnt very good from what I saw..... WKU looked like the much better team against a equal opponent (Alabama), and i bet the stats back that up. There a a lot of terrible P5 teams just as there is a lot of terrible G5 teams

(01-02-2017 03:14 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(01-02-2017 03:10 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  

(01-02-2017 03:03 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(01-02-2017 02:48 PM)MUther Wrote:  

(01-02-2017 02:12 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Alabama and Clemson are clearly the two best teams in the country and they deserve to play in the championship.

Don't fool yourself however and believe that just because Washington and Ohio St. got blown out that everyone else is somehow on their level.

The P5 is a whole different league.

I seem to remember startup UTSA giving your PAC-12 a run for the money on several occasions over the last several years. And with Washington getting blown out I'm afraid the PAC-12 doesn't belong, either, and will need to move down.

Last time I checked, there were two PAC 12 teams in the New Year's Six bowls and one of them in the final four.

I think you mean Big 12 is the conference that doesn't belong.

From the looks of how Washington got manhandled, it's VERY CLEAR that the PAC 12 is subpar. But that's the point....there's only about 6 to 10 P5 programs each year that are truly playing on "another level". Outside of that, the rest of the P5 is susceptible to a solid aaarse whipping any day from a G5.

Alabama is on another level.

Then it's p5 then its g5

The PAC 12 had a down year because Oregon and Stanford weren't where they usually are.

Once again however, don't let that fool anyone. P5 is clearly on another level

And as for Washington, they weren't even supposed to be this good this year. Most people think next year is going to be their year.

You are CLEARLY mistaken.

Category 1: It's Alabama on a level all by itself.....

Category 2: Then it's typically 6-8 P5 schools --but maybe as many as 12-- playing on a very high level.....

Category 3: Then, it's the majority of everybody else......... including ALL remaining P5's and 70% of the G5's.

Category 4: Then, it's the remaining 30% of G5's.

There's just not that much difference in the Category 3 schools. And if the P5 schools in THIS category had to play the G5's on their schedule ON THE ROAD more often, you'd finally understand this.

(01-02-2017 03:26 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  

(01-02-2017 03:14 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(01-02-2017 03:10 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  

(01-02-2017 03:03 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(01-02-2017 02:48 PM)MUther Wrote:  I seem to remember startup UTSA giving your PAC-12 a run for the money on several occasions over the last several years. And with Washington getting blown out I'm afraid the PAC-12 doesn't belong, either, and will need to move down.

Last time I checked, there were two PAC 12 teams in the New Year's Six bowls and one of them in the final four.

I think you mean Big 12 is the conference that doesn't belong.

From the looks of how Washington got manhandled, it's VERY CLEAR that the PAC 12 is subpar. But that's the point....there's only about 6 to 10 P5 programs each year that are truly playing on "another level". Outside of that, the rest of the P5 is susceptible to a solid aaarse whipping any day from a G5.

Alabama is on another level.

Then it's p5 then its g5

The PAC 12 had a down year because Oregon and Stanford weren't where they usually are.

Once again however, don't let that fool anyone. P5 is clearly on another level

And as for Washington, they weren't even supposed to be this good this year. Most people think next year is going to be their year.

You are CLEARLY mistaken.

Category 1: It's Alabama on a level all by itself.....

Category 2: Then it's typically 6-8 P5 schools --but maybe as many as 12-- playing on a very high level.....

Category 3: Then, it's everybody else......... including ALL remaining P5's and 70% of the G5's.

Category 4: The remaining 30% of G5's.

There's just not that much difference in the Category 3 schools. And if the P5 schools in THIS category had to play the G5's on their schedule ON THE ROAD more often, you'd finally understand this.

Yep Georgia State almost beat Wisconsin this season as well as Troy almost beat Clemson and App State should have beat Tennessee

(01-02-2017 03:33 PM)wkuhilltopperfan Wrote:  

(01-02-2017 03:26 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  

(01-02-2017 03:14 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(01-02-2017 03:10 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  

(01-02-2017 03:03 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Last time I checked, there were two PAC 12 teams in the New Year's Six bowls and one of them in the final four.

I think you mean Big 12 is the conference that doesn't belong.

From the looks of how Washington got manhandled, it's VERY CLEAR that the PAC 12 is subpar. But that's the point....there's only about 6 to 10 P5 programs each year that are truly playing on "another level". Outside of that, the rest of the P5 is susceptible to a solid aaarse whipping any day from a G5.

Alabama is on another level.

Then it's p5 then its g5

The PAC 12 had a down year because Oregon and Stanford weren't where they usually are.

Once again however, don't let that fool anyone. P5 is clearly on another level

And as for Washington, they weren't even supposed to be this good this year. Most people think next year is going to be their year.

You are CLEARLY mistaken.

Category 1: It's Alabama on a level all by itself.....

Category 2: Then it's typically 6-8 P5 schools --but maybe as many as 12-- playing on a very high level.....

Category 3: Then, it's everybody else......... including ALL remaining P5's and 70% of the G5's.

Category 4: The remaining 30% of G5's.

There's just not that much difference in the Category 3 schools. And if the P5 schools in THIS category had to play the G5's on their schedule ON THE ROAD more often, you'd finally understand this.

Yep Georgia State almost beat Wisconsin this season as well as Troy almost beat Clemson and App State should have beat Tennessee

....and without looking it up, I'll bet all those games were played in the P5's house?