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G5 playoff?
Sounds like one part great opportunity and one part surrender. Thoughts?

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12-29-2016 10:35 AM
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RE: G5 playoff?
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12-29-2016 11:18 AM
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RE: G5 playoff?
I would say no also. The non Power 5 conferences should push for a 16 team playoff. The current bow set up is boring especially when you have 5-7 team playing in a bowl.
12-29-2016 11:30 AM
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(12-29-2016 11:30 AM)OldOwl Wrote:  I would say no also. The non Power 5 conferences should push for a 16 team playoff. The current bow set up is boring especially when you have 5-7 team playing in a bowl.

Sixteen teams makes the regular season almost meaningless and would be a disaster for TV ratings on conference channels. Not a chance.

G5 playoff isn't necessarily a permanent demotion for all G5 schools. Winning a few G5 titles would dramatically improve a resume for a school that's looking to move up. Like App St before they made the jump to FBS.

Plus, the amount of exposure in a G5 title game has got to be much better than a tiny/random bowl game in mid-December.
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RE: G5 playoff?
Too much surrender to having second class status. A G5 championship would not be that important.

(12-29-2016 10:35 AM)Sunny_BHY Wrote:  Sounds like one part great opportunity and one part surrender. Thoughts?

http://www.espn.com/college-football/sto...d/18369921
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RE: G5 playoff?
I tend to disagree. As long as the Conference championship from each conference are in the playoffs plus remaining top 15 teams. I think it would be a great draw.
(12-29-2016 02:07 PM)Sunny_BHY Wrote:  
(12-29-2016 11:30 AM)OldOwl Wrote:  I would say no also. The non Power 5 conferences should push for a 16 team playoff. The current bow set up is boring especially when you have 5-7 team playing in a bowl.

Sixteen teams makes the regular season almost meaningless and would be a disaster for TV ratings on conference channels. Not a chance.

G5 playoff isn't necessarily a permanent demotion for all G5 schools. Winning a few G5 titles would dramatically improve a resume for a school that's looking to move up. Like App St before they made the jump to FBS.

Plus, the amount of exposure in a G5 title game has got to be much better than a tiny/random bowl game in mid-December.
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RE: G5 playoff?
No to a G5 playoff and no to a 16 team one either. I enjoy watching alot of these bowl games (watching the Army Seniors go out on top for one). My guess is a 16 team playoff ends up with 5 AQs from the P5 conf. champs and 11 at large, of which one might be a G5 team. So we get to see more middling $EC teams play...no thanks.
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The P5 coaches don't want a 16 team playoff. Adds too many games which increases the chances of injuries. Or, it reduces the regular season games by 2, or so, which the non play-off teams would dislike... lost revenue.
I'm ok with a G5 playoff if it can generate enough interest to increase TV money.
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(12-30-2016 07:08 PM)greyowl72 Wrote:  The P5 coaches don't want a 16 team playoff. Adds too many games which increases the chances of injuries. Or, it reduces the regular season games by 2, or so, which the non play-off teams would dislike... lost revenue.
I'm ok with a G5 playoff if it can generate enough interest to increase TV money.

I doubt a G5 playoff would generate more revenue than the current bowl structure. People don't get excited over the FCS or lower playoffs just by virtue of being playoffs; G5 wouldn't be significantly better. A big part of why the G5 bowl games draw substantial money is because the teams are officially the same level as the top teams. This move would further distance the G5 from P5, so I believe this would ultimately bring a drop in G5 TV revenue at all points in the season.
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A 16 game playoff could work if we go back to 11 games and shorten the quarters from 15 to 12 minutes long for the playoffs.
(12-30-2016 09:38 PM)franklyconfused Wrote:  
(12-30-2016 07:08 PM)greyowl72 Wrote:  The P5 coaches don't want a 16 team playoff. Adds too many games which increases the chances of injuries. Or, it reduces the regular season games by 2, or so, which the non play-off teams would dislike... lost revenue.
I'm ok with a G5 playoff if it can generate enough interest to increase TV money.

I doubt a G5 playoff would generate more revenue than the current bowl structure. People don't get excited over the FCS or lower playoffs just by virtue of being playoffs; G5 wouldn't be significantly better. A big part of why the G5 bowl games draw substantial money is because the teams are officially the same level as the top teams. This move would further distance the G5 from P5, so I believe this would ultimately bring a drop in G5 TV revenue at all points in the season.
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(12-31-2016 12:37 AM)OldOwl Wrote:  A 16 game playoff could work if we go back to 11 games and shorten the quarters from 15 to 12 minutes long for the playoffs.
I was about to say that couldn't work until I realized... that's three extra minutes per quarter to sell ads! Genius!

Seriously though.. wouldn't be bad to go that route for all games... in which case the regular season could survive intact
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RE: G5 playoff?
I see a six-team playoff as the next natural extension where top two seeds get a first-round bye so they don't have to play three games to win (and don't require their fans to travel 3x which has been mentioned as barrier for expansion before). Similar to MBB, could see all P5 champions getting a guaranteed slot and one wildcard to next best team which could be a G5. Would make conference championship games much more important/relevant.

Hate a G5 playoff. Who really cares if Western Michigan beats Boise? Should always be fighting to get top team(s) on the main stage, not rollover and self-inflict more barriers in the two-tier structure. It is all FBS/D-1 football, not FCS/D-2.

Imagine a Boise or the like going undefeated and has to say no to a G5 playoff to go to the big boy (then why even G5 playoff?) or even worse, does not get a nod to the big boy playoff as the committee picking the championship no longer has any pressure to consider G5 as they have their own system? Bad idea.
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RE: G5 playoff?
(01-01-2017 08:52 AM)owl40 Wrote:  I see a six-team playoff as the next natural extension where top two seeds get a first-round bye so they don't have to play three games to win (and don't require their fans to travel 3x which has been mentioned as barrier for expansion before).

Dabbo had an interesting post-game comment last night about how that win was for all the fans who were sitting at home because they had bought tickets to Tamps.
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