(12-29-2016 06:04 PM)baruna falls Wrote:  

(12-29-2016 02:01 PM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  

(12-29-2016 10:19 AM)baruna falls Wrote:  

(12-29-2016 01:17 AM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  

(12-28-2016 11:57 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  LOL... You can create any chart you want still boils down to AAC over G4's... Hate to burst your bubble but it is what it is, man

And there he is folks ... honking the horn on his brand new 2021 Ford Unicorn!!!

You onow posting here is not going to change anyones opinion about ODU right. You look jealous, bitter and full of envy dking so.

Nice try there slick. Way to try and deflect. Just what is expected when the facts don't support the rhetoric being put out by some choice posters and it is called into question by others. This has nothing to do with anyone's opinion about ODU, and no one is jealous, bitter, etc. Appreciate your concerns, but we are pretty happy. Won our bowl game, finished 10-3, conference had a winning bowl season record. Now to get us back on topic ...

It is about the lame excuses for why the AAC can't man up and provide a decent showing in its bowl games.

It is about the fallacy of calling people (or groups) G4 or P6.

Um slick,your part of the G4. It is what it is. You can keep trying to join the Aac though. Get donations up and find a way for media to value your program.

Well Slick, at least you're half right. Guess that is probably a win for you today huh? Unfortunately for you the half that you got right you can get right anytime by saying - "It is what it is", so I wouldn't go wearing your little self out by patting yourself on the back just yet.

As you know (I'm guessing you do anyway), I know, and the rest of collegiate athletics knows, there is no G4 today, there wasn't any G4 yesterday, and there likely won't be any G4 in the foreseeable future. Same holds true for the P6 that some of you like to believe in. Perhaps you should adhere to your own advice ...

You can keep trying to join the P5 though. Get donations up and find a way for media to value your programs.

(12-29-2016 07:04 PM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  

(12-29-2016 06:04 PM)baruna falls Wrote:  

(12-29-2016 02:01 PM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  

(12-29-2016 10:19 AM)baruna falls Wrote:  

(12-29-2016 01:17 AM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  And there he is folks ... honking the horn on his brand new 2021 Ford Unicorn!!!

You onow posting here is not going to change anyones opinion about ODU right. You look jealous, bitter and full of envy dking so.

Nice try there slick. Way to try and deflect. Just what is expected when the facts don't support the rhetoric being put out by some choice posters and it is called into question by others. This has nothing to do with anyone's opinion about ODU, and no one is jealous, bitter, etc. Appreciate your concerns, but we are pretty happy. Won our bowl game, finished 10-3, conference had a winning bowl season record. Now to get us back on topic ...

It is about the lame excuses for why the AAC can't man up and provide a decent showing in its bowl games.

It is about the fallacy of calling people (or groups) G4 or P6.

Um slick,your part of the G4. It is what it is. You can keep trying to join the Aac though. Get donations up and find a way for media to value your program.

Well Slick, at least you're half right. Guess that is probably a win for you today huh? Unfortunately for you the half that you got right you can get right anytime by saying - "It is what it is", so I wouldn't go wearing your little self out by patting yourself on the back just yet.

As you know (I'm guessing you do anyway), I know, and the rest of collegiate athletics knows, there is no G4 today, there wasn't any G4 yesterday, and there likely won't be any G4 in the foreseeable future. Same holds true for the P6 that some of you like to believe in. Perhaps you should adhere to your own advice ...

You can keep trying to join the P5 though. Get donations up and find a way for media to value your programs.

Your last sentence is exactly correct. It applies to us juxtaposed against the P5 JUST AS IT DOES to the G4 juxtaposed against us. Point being, we are closer to being one of them than one of you.

#masseyratings

(12-29-2016 08:47 AM)Pony94 Wrote:  Good for the G4

http://www.espn.com/college-football/sto...er-5-teams
http://es.pn/2iHWOHg

American Conference commissioner Mike Aresco has no interest in it either.

"The answer is an emphatic no," Aresco said. "We compete for national championships like anyone else in FBS, including the Power 5, and have no interest in any kind of separate championship."

What is this Power 5 that your commissioner makes reference to?

(12-30-2016 05:09 PM)dshawfan Wrote:  

(12-29-2016 08:47 AM)Pony94 Wrote:  Good for the G4

http://www.espn.com/college-football/sto...er-5-teams
http://es.pn/2iHWOHg

American Conference commissioner Mike Aresco has no interest in it either.

"The answer is an emphatic no," Aresco said. "We compete for national championships like anyone else in FBS, including the Power 5, and have no interest in any kind of separate championship."

What is this Power 5 that your commissioner makes reference to?

He is bound by the ramifications of his words as it pertains to perceptions in the media. We are bound by no such ramifications. IOW, I don't give an eff what a bunch of G4 fans think of what I write on this board.

(12-27-2016 07:14 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(12-27-2016 07:05 PM)Kronke Wrote:  How is a P6 champ supposed to get up for a 6-6 team?

We refuse to be defined by 7 meaningless, postseason exhibition games. We win when it matters.

P 5 teams don't have to "get up" for anyone.

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Well, Tennessee sure wasn't up for App....

I believe this thread has struck a....

(12-31-2016 12:29 AM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  I believe this thread has struck a....

Is it a Power (6) chord???

Was the USF win the only win the conference got?

(12-31-2016 04:44 AM)Crazier Wrote:  Was the USF win the only win the conference got?

Tulsa won also.

(12-31-2016 01:26 AM)Hurricane Drummer Wrote:  

(12-31-2016 12:29 AM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  I believe this thread has struck a....

Is it a Power (6) chord???

(12-31-2016 01:26 AM)Hurricane Drummer Wrote:  

(12-31-2016 12:29 AM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  I believe this thread has struck a....

Is it a Power (6) chord???

Close to a minor G4.

(12-28-2016 08:38 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(12-28-2016 12:13 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(12-27-2016 10:37 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(12-27-2016 07:05 PM)Kronke Wrote:  How is a P6 champ supposed to get up for a 6-6 team?

We refuse to be defined by 7 meaningless, postseason exhibition games. We win when it matters.

But ... when does a game between G5 teams ever matter? Not during the regular season. If Tulane plays South Alabama in week four, what difference does it make who wins? No ranking will be on the line, doesn't impact on either conference race, etc. The game is meaningless.

But if they play in a bowl game, well that gets nationally televised on ESPN, and the winner gets a bowl game trophy and conference bragging rights.

These bowl games among G5, irrelevant as they may seem, are still clearly and obviously more important than regular season games.

They clearly arent as important as a coaches next job. They clearly arent as important as some players potential draft position. The reality is the we have had a number of coachless teams and several bad matchups. It is what it is. We could win more games matching our best teams against the 7th place G5s. So if we stacked our bowl line up your position is that means something? It wouldn't.

These are all excuses for why we lose bowl games, when my point was that contrary to what the other poster said, bowl games are usually more, not less, important than regular season games. And that's especially true for G5/G5 matchups.

But OK, if you want to talk about why....

Coaches leaving? Western Kentucky lost their coach and squashed Memphis.

Bad Matchups? Yesterday's game was the AAC champ vs the ACC 9th place team.

Draft positions? The SEC almost always has the most top draft prospects, and yet they usually win the most bowls anyway. And high draft position isn't, frankly, a problem most AAC teams have.

We had great matchups this year, AAC teams were favored in 6 of 7 bowls.

The reality is, bowl games generally and among G5 are more important than regular season games, and the reality is, we've done terrible in them. Four straight years of losing bowl record.

Hopefully the Bulls can salvage something tomorrow, but if we don't, I won't use WT leaving as an excuse.

Id argue that our bowl games are NOT the biggest games on our schedules. Oklahoma, Louisville, Norte Dame, etc are much more exciting BIG games than anyone we faced in the post season.

So, no---bowls aren't the most important games. If they were that important, one wouldn't be played at 2:30 in the afternoon on a Monday---which is a normal work day for 90% of the population. The reality is many of our bowl games are very ho-hum affairs. Basically, our bowl line up sucks---but everyone already knows that.

Wow this thread still going on lol

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(12-31-2016 11:50 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(12-28-2016 08:38 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(12-28-2016 12:13 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(12-27-2016 10:37 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(12-27-2016 07:05 PM)Kronke Wrote:  How is a P6 champ supposed to get up for a 6-6 team?

We refuse to be defined by 7 meaningless, postseason exhibition games. We win when it matters.

But ... when does a game between G5 teams ever matter? Not during the regular season. If Tulane plays South Alabama in week four, what difference does it make who wins? No ranking will be on the line, doesn't impact on either conference race, etc. The game is meaningless.

But if they play in a bowl game, well that gets nationally televised on ESPN, and the winner gets a bowl game trophy and conference bragging rights.

These bowl games among G5, irrelevant as they may seem, are still clearly and obviously more important than regular season games.

They clearly arent as important as a coaches next job. They clearly arent as important as some players potential draft position. The reality is the we have had a number of coachless teams and several bad matchups. It is what it is. We could win more games matching our best teams against the 7th place G5s. So if we stacked our bowl line up your position is that means something? It wouldn't.

These are all excuses for why we lose bowl games, when my point was that contrary to what the other poster said, bowl games are usually more, not less, important than regular season games. And that's especially true for G5/G5 matchups.

But OK, if you want to talk about why....

Coaches leaving? Western Kentucky lost their coach and squashed Memphis.

Bad Matchups? Yesterday's game was the AAC champ vs the ACC 9th place team.

Draft positions? The SEC almost always has the most top draft prospects, and yet they usually win the most bowls anyway. And high draft position isn't, frankly, a problem most AAC teams have.

We had great matchups this year, AAC teams were favored in 6 of 7 bowls.

The reality is, bowl games generally and among G5 are more important than regular season games, and the reality is, we've done terrible in them. Four straight years of losing bowl record.

Hopefully the Bulls can salvage something tomorrow, but if we don't, I won't use WT leaving as an excuse.

Id argue that our bowl games are NOT the biggest games on our schedules. Oklahoma, Louisville, Norte Dame, etc are much more exciting BIG games than anyone we faced in the post season.

So, no---bowls aren't the most important games. If they were that important, one wouldn't be played at 2:30 in the afternoon on a Monday---which is a normal work day for 90% of the population. The reality is many of our bowl games are very ho-hum affairs. Basically, our bowl line up sucks---but everyone already knows that.

You right, Attackcoog

Bowl games can be important but only if the opponent is within AAC level power strength... For example - the Houston's/AAC vs Oklahoma/Big12 game, that first regular season game alone between two power leagues had already built more off season fireworks interest vs our crappy bowl matchups.

Most our current crappy bowl game opponents aren't enough for us to get excited over unfortunately. Yikes

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