(12-28-2016 12:45 AM)airtroop Wrote:  

(12-27-2016 08:49 PM)LatahCounty Wrote:  

(12-27-2016 08:27 PM)JTApps1 Wrote:  What's the Idaho roster going to look like next year? I'm guessing you'll start the process of lowering the number of scholarships next year?

We're in good shape. Unlike last year we do lose some pieces but most of our best players are coming back -- Linehan, Saunders, our whole LB corps which was excellent this year, DT and Sun Belt Newcomer of the Year Aikeem Coleman, OL Jordan Rose, a bunch of other contributors.

Biggest concerns -- we lose 3 starters on the OL plus Austin Rehkow and both TEs. DT Tueni Lupeamanu will be missed as well. We lose some DBs and will be sorry to see S Jayshawn Jordan go, but it's not like the secondary was the strength of the team last year, so we should be able to plug some guys in and not lose much.

My understanding is that as long as we're FBS we're going to recruit the full complement of guys and deal with reductions after the season, likely through normal attrition and by cutting some players back to partial scholarships. There's no doubt this whole thing is hurting recruiting but Petrino has been fighting one recruiting headwind or another since he got here and he's still finding quality players.

I may be wrong on this but I'm pretty sure you cannot do any partials until you are officially FCS?

No, you're right. I meant go to partials after next year.

(12-27-2016 05:25 PM)TheMackAttack Wrote:  

(12-27-2016 12:20 AM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  App loses a lot from this year's team. I'd love for the team to go 8-0 in SBC play and 3-1 OOC with a W over Wake and the only L to UGA... but I'm afraid that would be underestimating both how much the rest of the league is improving as well as how hard it will be to replace the starters App will lose.

I'd say App lost more talent last year than this year. We should absolutely win ten games next year. I don't think twelve is out of the question either.

Perhaps but we lose 6 seniors who made either 1st team, 2nd team, or HM in the Belt this year. And that list doesn't include John Law. That doesn't mean theire aren't capable replacements but there are no guarantees they will perform to the same level. I'm optimistic that we will have another successful year but with an improving SBC expecting 12 wins seems overly optimistic.

App loses - 2 starting OL, 2 starting LB, all-time rushing leader, TE, S, WR/PR, and P

In addition we lose 3 DL that played a lot.

We have many more holes to fill this offseason than last, but the depth was better this year.

(12-27-2016 06:19 PM)Eagleditka Wrote:  Anything better than 7-5 and I'm content with my Eagles. Barring a power struggle between Summers and Cook, we should be back to our old selves.

I'll only accept 7-5 if that includes wins against App and Ga State. Also I'm sure Summers knows he's on thin ice and needs to give Cook room to use his expertise while Summers focuses on what he's best at: defense. Let's not forget that Summers wanted Cook as his OC first but TK refused to sign the check and went the cheap route instead. I think now that Summers has he staff he needs to be successful, he will be. After he was denied his shiny expensive staff at first, he cunningly went after coaches from Georgia that he knew could recruit very wel and that they did. So at least he would have a nice recruiting class. Summers is a lot smarter than people give him credit for.

Overall, we have a ton of ?'s going into this season just like it seems we do every season. I'm hoping that competent coaching along with our new QB stepping up early could land us at 8-4.

I'll say best case: 8-4 with our only losses to Auburn, App, Troy, and ULL
Worst case: 4-8 by going 1-3 out of conference and then only beating USA, Coastal, and NMSU

(12-28-2016 11:18 AM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  

(12-27-2016 06:19 PM)Eagleditka Wrote:  Anything better than 7-5 and I'm content with my Eagles. Barring a power struggle between Summers and Cook, we should be back to our old selves.

I'll only accept 7-5 if that includes wins against App and Ga State. Also I'm sure Summers knows he's on thin ice and needs to give Cook room to use his expertise while Summers focuses on what he's best at: defense. Let's not forget that Summers wanted Cook as his OC first but TK refused to sign the check and went the cheap route instead. I think now that Summers has he staff he needs to be successful, he will be. After he was denied his shiny expensive staff at first, he cunningly went after coaches from Georgia that he knew could recruit very wel and that they did. So at least he would have a nice recruiting class. Summers is a lot smarter than people give him credit for.

Overall, we have a ton of ?'s going into this season just like it seems we do every season. I'm hoping that competent coaching along with our new QB stepping up early could land us at 8-4.

I'll say best case: 8-4 with our only losses to Auburn, App, Troy, and ULL
Worst case: 4-8 by going 1-3 out of conference and then only beating USA, Coastal, and NMSU

Southern is a team under the radar this season compared to the last 2 seasons. Southern does have the best recruiting class average the past 3 years in SBC. Those players in 2017 will be Seniors, Juniors, Sophomores, and red shirt Frosh. Obviously the biggest question is QB and a depleted LB core. Besides that, Southern has guys who can fill as good or better. I'm not worried about the OL with the new OL coach and 3 starters returning. WR/TE core will be better as well. Fields and Ramsby can easily handle Breida's departure. The Defensive back position has more talent than I can remember.

Team goal is to win the SBC. Defending our HOME field is a must as well. Last season is in the rear view mirror. Offense will be something that Southern fans can once again be proud of.

Same thing we do every year, try to take over the world!

Goals:
1. become bowl eligible
2. win conference
3. win bowl game
4. win every game.


Actually we have only one goal this year. Get an offense.

(12-28-2016 09:52 AM)Saint3333 Wrote:  App loses - 2 starting OL, 2 starting LB, all-time rushing leader, TE, S, WR/PR, and P

In addition we lose 3 DL that played a lot.

We have many more holes to fill this offseason than last, but the depth was better this year.

Yeah because of the depth we much better position to replace these guys than we have been ever. We replace most every starter with a guy who has starting experience (Flory, Townes, Gibbs(CB & PR), Upshaw, Josh Thomas, Edge-Campbell). The exception is one OL spot, where plenty of guys have rotated in, and the punter position, which I heard will be filled by Critcher Jr. We also redshirted 21/23 players from this past recruiting class and apparently a few of these guys will be vying for starting spots immediately.

I think regardless of Lambs limitations as a passer, our passing offense will only improve with a year under this young wr corps' belt. If the redshirted guy Virgil can catch the ball, he'll be an upgrade over Capel.

(12-28-2016 11:18 AM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  I'll say best case: 8-4 with our only losses to Auburn, App, Troy, and ULL

Dude... you play stAte next year. In Georgia Southern's best case scenario, you will not win that game. We gave you 5 turnovers and you couldn't win. That was the only thing that kept you from being blown out in Jonesboro. You were blown out... statistically. Here's a link to the stats, if you need a refresher.

http://www.espn.com/college-football/mat...=400869822

Giving you five turnovers won't happen again.

Might as well go ahead and begin chalking that game up as a loss in your preseason predictions, or you're setting yourself up for heartbreak next year.

(12-28-2016 01:11 PM)asuwon Wrote:  

(12-28-2016 11:18 AM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  I'll say best case: 8-4 with our only losses to Auburn, App, Troy, and ULL

Dude... you play stAte next year. In Georgia Southern's best case scenario, you will not win that game. We gave you 5 turnovers and you couldn't win. That was the only thing that kept you from being blown out in Jonesboro. You were blown out... statistically. Here's a link to the stats, if you need a refresher.

http://www.espn.com/college-football/mat...=400869822

Giving you five turnovers won't happen again.

Might as well go ahead and begin chalking that game up as a loss in your preseason predictions, or you're setting yourself up for heartbreak next year.

IF we have any kind of functional offense then it will be a close game, but IF we are firing on all cylinders GS wins big. Any average GS team would've beaten you easily in that game, but this was probably the worst coached GS team ever (and that is saying a lot considering he who shall not be named was once our coach ).

(12-28-2016 01:11 PM)asuwon Wrote:  

(12-28-2016 11:18 AM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  I'll say best case: 8-4 with our only losses to Auburn, App, Troy, and ULL

Dude... you play stAte next year. In Georgia Southern's best case scenario, you will not win that game. We gave you 5 turnovers and you couldn't win. That was the only thing that kept you from being blown out in Jonesboro. You were blown out... statistically. Here's a link to the stats, if you need a refresher.

http://www.espn.com/college-football/mat...=400869822

Giving you five turnovers won't happen again.

Might as well go ahead and begin chalking that game up as a loss in your preseason predictions, or you're setting yourself up for heartbreak next year.

Yes because teams always remain the same from year to year. Especially ones that whose seniors were mainly FCS recruits....or ones with new OC's. Talent was not our problem play calling was and well we started over on that front. Also turn overs are not always given they are caused are earned many times as well. Its not like a RB just threw the ball in the air or the QB meant to throw in the middle of our D.

A team that lost five times including losses to UCA, USU and ULL should not be telling anyone else who they are going to lose to.

(12-28-2016 01:55 PM)trueeagle98 Wrote:  

(12-28-2016 01:11 PM)asuwon Wrote:  

(12-28-2016 11:18 AM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  I'll say best case: 8-4 with our only losses to Auburn, App, Troy, and ULL

Dude... you play stAte next year. In Georgia Southern's best case scenario, you will not win that game. We gave you 5 turnovers and you couldn't win. That was the only thing that kept you from being blown out in Jonesboro. You were blown out... statistically. Here's a link to the stats, if you need a refresher.

http://www.espn.com/college-football/mat...=400869822

Giving you five turnovers won't happen again.

Might as well go ahead and begin chalking that game up as a loss in your preseason predictions, or you're setting yourself up for heartbreak next year.

IF we have any kind of functional offense then it will be a close game, but IF we are firing on all cylinders GS wins big. Any average GS team would've beaten you easily in that game, but this was probably the worst coached GS team ever (and that is saying a lot considering he who shall not be named was once our coach ).

That AND the game is in Statesboro. It's hard to come to Statesboro and win, just ask Troy fans because they have yet to do it. Even App who would have raked yall over the coals last year wasn't even ahead by halftime. Usually it takes a bunch of wrongdoings on our end to let opponents win in Paulson.

don't forget App get Gibbs back, an all conference corner before his year long suspension, with Gibbs at one corner, and Duck at the other, good luck throwing for big yds against us next year. As far as goals, with what we have coming back, and from what I have heard some real talent waiting for their chance, barring injuries, or knuckleheads getting trouble, should be one of the favorites to win the SBC.

There's one thing for sure. That is stAte will not be favored to win the conference. And we like it that way.

(12-28-2016 01:55 PM)trueeagle98 Wrote:  

(12-28-2016 01:11 PM)asuwon Wrote:  

(12-28-2016 11:18 AM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  I'll say best case: 8-4 with our only losses to Auburn, App, Troy, and ULL

Dude... you play stAte next year. In Georgia Southern's best case scenario, you will not win that game. We gave you 5 turnovers and you couldn't win. That was the only thing that kept you from being blown out in Jonesboro. You were blown out... statistically. Here's a link to the stats, if you need a refresher.

http://www.espn.com/college-football/mat...=400869822

Giving you five turnovers won't happen again.

Might as well go ahead and begin chalking that game up as a loss in your preseason predictions, or you're setting yourself up for heartbreak next year.

IF we have any kind of functional offense then it will be a close game, but IF we are firing on all cylinders "fill in the team name here" wins big. Any average GS team would've beaten you easily in that game, but this was probably the worst coached GS team ever (and that is saying a lot considering he who shall not be named was once our coach ).

ANY team can make that claim.

(12-28-2016 04:26 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  

(12-28-2016 01:55 PM)trueeagle98 Wrote:  

(12-28-2016 01:11 PM)asuwon Wrote:  

(12-28-2016 11:18 AM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  I'll say best case: 8-4 with our only losses to Auburn, App, Troy, and ULL

Dude... you play stAte next year. In Georgia Southern's best case scenario, you will not win that game. We gave you 5 turnovers and you couldn't win. That was the only thing that kept you from being blown out in Jonesboro. You were blown out... statistically. Here's a link to the stats, if you need a refresher.

http://www.espn.com/college-football/mat...=400869822

Giving you five turnovers won't happen again.

Might as well go ahead and begin chalking that game up as a loss in your preseason predictions, or you're setting yourself up for heartbreak next year.

IF we have any kind of functional offense then it will be a close game, but IF we are firing on all cylinders GS wins big. Any average GS team would've beaten you easily in that game, but this was probably the worst coached GS team ever (and that is saying a lot considering he who shall not be named was once our coach ).

That AND the game is in Statesboro. It's hard to come to Statesboro and win, just ask Troy fans because they have yet to do it. Even App who would have raked yall over the coals last year wasn't even ahead by halftime. Usually it takes a bunch of wrongdoings on our end to let opponents win in Paulson.

Uh, you might want to check the record books.

D2 Troy State thumped us 21-0 AT home, on Homecoming, in 1992.

Only home shutout in our history.

(12-28-2016 07:22 PM)Eagle22 Wrote:  

(12-28-2016 04:26 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  

(12-28-2016 01:55 PM)trueeagle98 Wrote:  

(12-28-2016 01:11 PM)asuwon Wrote:  

(12-28-2016 11:18 AM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  I'll say best case: 8-4 with our only losses to Auburn, App, Troy, and ULL

Dude... you play stAte next year. In Georgia Southern's best case scenario, you will not win that game. We gave you 5 turnovers and you couldn't win. That was the only thing that kept you from being blown out in Jonesboro. You were blown out... statistically. Here's a link to the stats, if you need a refresher.

http://www.espn.com/college-football/mat...=400869822

Giving you five turnovers won't happen again.

Might as well go ahead and begin chalking that game up as a loss in your preseason predictions, or you're setting yourself up for heartbreak next year.

IF we have any kind of functional offense then it will be a close game, but IF we are firing on all cylinders GS wins big. Any average GS team would've beaten you easily in that game, but this was probably the worst coached GS team ever (and that is saying a lot considering he who shall not be named was once our coach ).

That AND the game is in Statesboro. It's hard to come to Statesboro and win, just ask Troy fans because they have yet to do it. Even App who would have raked yall over the coals last year wasn't even ahead by halftime. Usually it takes a bunch of wrongdoings on our end to let opponents win in Paulson.

Uh, you might want to check the record books.

D2 Troy State thumped us 21-0 AT home, on Homecoming, in 1992.

Only home shutout in our history.

I meant since joining the FBS. Trust me I know they used to beat our brains in way back in the day but that's ancient history.

(12-28-2016 04:59 PM)sdcritter Wrote:  There's one thing for sure. That is stAte will not be favored to win the conference. And we like it that way.

Anyone paying attention to the schedule will pick App first. It isn't a slight against Ark St. Or Troy it's math.

(12-28-2016 07:56 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  

(12-28-2016 04:59 PM)sdcritter Wrote:  There's one thing for sure. That is stAte will not be favored to win the conference. And we like it that way.

Anyone paying attention to the schedule will pick App first. It isn't a slight against Ark St. Or Troy it's math.

It's ok, we at ASU have gotten use to the snubs by the prognosticators. It just gives the Red Wolves added incentive to prove the league wrong AGAIN. And we also know it drives the rest of the league nuts that they can't knock ASU out of a title chase.

(12-28-2016 04:37 PM)moehler Wrote:  don't forget App get Gibbs back, an all conference corner before his year long suspension, with Gibbs at one corner, and Duck at the other, good luck throwing for big yds against us next year. As far as goals, with what we have coming back, and from what I have heard some real talent waiting for their chance, barring injuries, or knuckleheads getting trouble, should be one of the favorites to win the SBC.

He hasn't played in a year. No guarantee that he returns as the same player.

(12-28-2016 04:23 PM)JCGSU Wrote:  Talent was not our problem play calling was

Talent, or to be more precise, the lack of talent, was most definitely your problem in that game.

You got outathleted and beat by a superior team, despite that team giving you a +5 turnover margin.

Soothe yourself with the play calling excuse, if you must, but you're only setting yourself up for more disappointment next season.