(12-24-2016 01:36 PM)Carolina_Low_Country Wrote:  We really need to push for this, would make the sport a whole lot more fun and get us back to football and not politics of who it better or has the most money. Everything would be left on the field, just win your division, then conference, and you are in the playoff.

Just drop all the bowls and go to a 16 team playoff.

Dec. 2/3 (Week After Thanksgiving) - Conference Championships (Every conference must have one winner goes to playoff, playoff committee picks 6 at large school and seeds teams )
Conference Champions:
Temple
Clemson
Penn State
Oklahoma
WKU
Western Michigan
Wyoming
Washington
Alabama
Appalchian State
At-Large:
Ohio State
Michigan
Wisconsin
USC
Colorado
Florida State

Seeding
1 Alabama
2 Clemson
3 Ohio State
4 Washington
5 Penn State
6 Michigan
7 Oklahoma
8 Wisconsin
9 USC
10 Colorado
11 Florida State
12 Western Michigan
13 San Diego State
14 Temple
15 Appalachian State
16 WKU

Dec. 9/10 (Following Week, games played) 1st Round
16 WKU @ 1 Alabama
9 USC @ 8 Wisconsin
12 Western M. @ 5 Penn State
14 SDSU @ 4 Washington
11 Florida St. @ 6 Michigan
14 Temple @ 3 Ohio State
10 Colorado @ 7 Oklahoma
15 App St. @ 2 Clemson

Dec. 16/17 2nd Round
4 Games all on campus, highest seed hosts

New Years Day
2 Playoff Games Neutral Site

National Championship Same as Now


This is the only way to make it fair for everyone and keep it fun. Would be way more fun watching 8 games on the weekend with each team playing for survival. The same goes for the second round. Imagine a Michigan home game at Noon in the second round with heavy snow, or Wisconsin going to Alabama, or Western Michigan pulling the upset at Penn State. TV wants to two things. 1 Large programs going head to head and 2 Cinderellas pulling upsets. This gives you both.

Another thing it does makes the conference championships important since it gets you to the playoff.

You can push all you want, but hell will freeze over before it happens.

Do you really think Alabama needs to play 4 more games to prove they are the best team in the country????

(12-26-2016 03:05 PM)SMUmustangs Wrote:  

(12-24-2016 01:36 PM)Carolina_Low_Country Wrote:  We really need to push for this, would make the sport a whole lot more fun and get us back to football and not politics of who it better or has the most money. Everything would be left on the field, just win your division, then conference, and you are in the playoff.

Just drop all the bowls and go to a 16 team playoff.

Dec. 2/3 (Week After Thanksgiving) - Conference Championships (Every conference must have one winner goes to playoff, playoff committee picks 6 at large school and seeds teams )
Conference Champions:
Temple
Clemson
Penn State
Oklahoma
WKU
Western Michigan
Wyoming
Washington
Alabama
Appalchian State
At-Large:
Ohio State
Michigan
Wisconsin
USC
Colorado
Florida State

Seeding
1 Alabama
2 Clemson
3 Ohio State
4 Washington
5 Penn State
6 Michigan
7 Oklahoma
8 Wisconsin
9 USC
10 Colorado
11 Florida State
12 Western Michigan
13 San Diego State
14 Temple
15 Appalachian State
16 WKU

Dec. 9/10 (Following Week, games played) 1st Round
16 WKU @ 1 Alabama
9 USC @ 8 Wisconsin
12 Western M. @ 5 Penn State
14 SDSU @ 4 Washington
11 Florida St. @ 6 Michigan
14 Temple @ 3 Ohio State
10 Colorado @ 7 Oklahoma
15 App St. @ 2 Clemson

Dec. 16/17 2nd Round
4 Games all on campus, highest seed hosts

New Years Day
2 Playoff Games Neutral Site

National Championship Same as Now


This is the only way to make it fair for everyone and keep it fun. Would be way more fun watching 8 games on the weekend with each team playing for survival. The same goes for the second round. Imagine a Michigan home game at Noon in the second round with heavy snow, or Wisconsin going to Alabama, or Western Michigan pulling the upset at Penn State. TV wants to two things. 1 Large programs going head to head and 2 Cinderellas pulling upsets. This gives you both.

Another thing it does makes the conference championships important since it gets you to the playoff.

You can push all you want, but hell will freeze over before it happens.

Do you really think Alabama needs to play 4 more games to prove they are the best team in the country???? How would feel if that was your team??

Yes because Alabama can host two playoff games and make an easy $15 million dollars plus two more weekends of being on tv to advertise to out of state students which University of Alabama lives off of.

I think it would be better to reorganize the bowl season in to a set of 8, 8 team playoffs, all hosted at single locations across the nation.

• Championship Playoff - Top 8 teams, with one slot allocated for the highest ranked G5 program, always. Location cycles similar to CFP bowl locations
• "NIT" Playoff - Runner up playoff, Next 8 Teams, Cycles with Championship Playoff
• "CBI" Playoff - Additional 8 teams, Cycles with Championship Playoff
• Regional Playoffs 1-5 - Takes the remaining bowl eligible teams and seeds them regionally into a playoff
  

This would create a feasible system similar to the highly successful NCAA tournament format, without making a ridiculous slate of postseason games, would provide convenience to traveling fans (all your teams postseason games are in one place), would create more games for advertisers and ticket sales, and would reinvigorate value into games through a playoff format (and trophy) at every level (i.e. 40 bowl game trophies become just 8)

(12-24-2016 01:36 PM)Carolina_Low_Country Wrote:  We really need to push for this, would make the sport a whole lot more fun and get us back to football and not politics of who it better or has the most money. Everything would be left on the field, just win your division, then conference, and you are in the playoff.

Just drop all the bowls and go to a 16 team playoff.

Dec. 2/3 (Week After Thanksgiving) - Conference Championships (Every conference must have one winner goes to playoff, playoff committee picks 6 at large school and seeds teams )
Conference Champions:
Temple
Clemson
Penn State
Oklahoma
WKU
Western Michigan
Wyoming
Washington
Alabama
Appalchian State
At-Large:
Ohio State
Michigan
Wisconsin
USC
Colorado
Florida State

Seeding
1 Alabama
2 Clemson
3 Ohio State
4 Washington
5 Penn State
6 Michigan
7 Oklahoma
8 Wisconsin
9 USC
10 Colorado
11 Florida State
12 Western Michigan
13 San Diego State
14 Temple
15 Appalachian State
16 WKU

Dec. 9/10 (Following Week, games played) 1st Round
16 WKU @ 1 Alabama
9 USC @ 8 Wisconsin
12 Western M. @ 5 Penn State
14 SDSU @ 4 Washington
11 Florida St. @ 6 Michigan
14 Temple @ 3 Ohio State
10 Colorado @ 7 Oklahoma
15 App St. @ 2 Clemson

Dec. 16/17 2nd Round
4 Games all on campus, highest seed hosts

New Years Day
2 Playoff Games Neutral Site

National Championship Same as Now


This is the only way to make it fair for everyone and keep it fun. Would be way more fun watching 8 games on the weekend with each team playing for survival. The same goes for the second round. Imagine a Michigan home game at Noon in the second round with heavy snow, or Wisconsin going to Alabama, or Western Michigan pulling the upset at Penn State. TV wants to two things. 1 Large programs going head to head and 2 Cinderellas pulling upsets. This gives you both.

Another thing it does makes the conference championships important since it gets you to the playoff.

Use the bowls


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Yes. Use the bowls. Agreed.

(12-24-2016 03:42 PM)va-eagle Wrote:  

(12-24-2016 03:21 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  I'm in the minority here but i like the at large, eye test aspect of college football. It's not fair sometimes, but it's what separates CFB from the No Fun League.

8 team playoff would be perfect. Make it 100% at large, with 1 spot guaranteed to the highest ranked G5 program, instead of the NY6 slot.

If we guarantee access to every champion, the regular season loses its value, and things like season ending OOC terrible losses become irrelevant.

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Agree 100%.

I also agree although partly for different reasons. Bowls will be even more meaningless than they are now. As devalued as the bowls are now, it's hard to be too critical of seniors who have NFZl careers ahead of them not playing in bowls. I'm pretty sure I'm in the minority on that but the bowls are no more meaningful than preseason scrimmages would be......the obvious over statement is merely for emphasis.

I've been an advocate for at least an NFL-style 12-team playoff for quite some time. We can definitely do a 16-team playoff, but I feel like teams should reseed after each round, like they do in the NFL and NHL. And we can actually keep the bowl system, too. Just make five of the current New Year Six bowls destinations for those who don't make it to the National Championship round, and the sixth of those bowls the National Championship Game. These bowls would rotate so they get to host the Championship Game once every six years.

And every team that makes the playoffs are guaranteed to also make it to a bowl game no matter what. If they get an early exit from the playoffs, they'll still get to go to a second-level bowl. (Read: Holiday Bowl, Texas Bowl, or Armed Forces Bowl.)

(12-24-2016 01:36 PM)Carolina_Low_Country Wrote:  We really need to push for this, would make the sport a whole lot more fun and get us back to football and not politics of who it better or has the most money. Everything would be left on the field, just win your division, then conference, and you are in the playoff.

Just drop all the bowls and go to a 16 team playoff.

Dec. 2/3 (Week After Thanksgiving) - Conference Championships (Every conference must have one winner goes to playoff, playoff committee picks 6 at large school and seeds teams )
Conference Champions:
Temple
Clemson
Penn State
Oklahoma
WKU
Western Michigan
Wyoming
Washington
Alabama
Appalchian State
At-Large:
Ohio State
Michigan
Wisconsin
USC
Colorado
Florida State

Seeding
1 Alabama
2 Clemson
3 Ohio State
4 Washington
5 Penn State
6 Michigan
7 Oklahoma
8 Wisconsin
9 USC
10 Colorado
11 Florida State
12 Western Michigan
13 San Diego State
14 Temple
15 Appalachian State
16 WKU

Dec. 9/10 (Following Week, games played) 1st Round
16 WKU @ 1 Alabama
9 USC @ 8 Wisconsin
12 Western M. @ 5 Penn State
14 SDSU @ 4 Washington
11 Florida St. @ 6 Michigan
14 Temple @ 3 Ohio State
10 Colorado @ 7 Oklahoma
15 App St. @ 2 Clemson

Dec. 16/17 2nd Round
4 Games all on campus, highest seed hosts

New Years Day
2 Playoff Games Neutral Site

National Championship Same as Now


This is the only way to make it fair for everyone and keep it fun. Would be way more fun watching 8 games on the weekend with each team playing for survival. The same goes for the second round. Imagine a Michigan home game at Noon in the second round with heavy snow, or Wisconsin going to Alabama, or Western Michigan pulling the upset at Penn State. TV wants to two things. 1 Large programs going head to head and 2 Cinderellas pulling upsets. This gives you both.

Another thing it does makes the conference championships important since it gets you to the playoff.

Absolutely the best way to do it. Everyone gets a shot just like all the other sports in the NCAA.

The power leagues don't want to share the money or the access. Thus we have had to endure the BCS and now the sham 4 team playoff where the big 10 champion doesn't even make it.

Make it fair. You give all good teams a chance with 6 wild cards plus conference champs. Even the little guys like the Sun Belt get to bring it against the big boys. If they are good enough they can win on the opponents home field.

Cut the travel by having the first two rounds on campus. So don't give me excuses about fans having to travel.

I would cut out half the bowl games and keep the good ones for teams who don't make the playoff.

We can do 16, but I will settle for 8

I have no problem with 6 auto bids, but I think its garbage that the P5 gets a guarantee. I think the 6 auto bids should go to the 6 champions of the highest rated conferences. That should in theory be the P5 schools and a G5 school. This way it is possible that if a conference is really shitting the bed they can be over taken by G5 schools.

I also like the idea of 10 schools 8 conference champions 2 at large

Round 1 be highest ranked at large hosting the eight highest conference champion (if the champion has 9 division 1 wins)

second highest ranked at large hosting vs conference 7 (if champion has 9 division 1 wins)

The other 6 bids are auto bids if the champions of the conference have 9 division 1 wins or ranked in the top 15. If a champion doesn't meet criteria then their conference bid becomes a at large. At larges are given to the highest ranked team that wasn't a division winner.

Obviously this may get convoluted but I like the idea of having conference Sag Ratings matter. One great thing about College football vs NFL football to me is the conference pride fans have.

(12-26-2016 03:05 PM)SMUmustangs Wrote:  

(12-24-2016 01:36 PM)Carolina_Low_Country Wrote:  We really need to push for this, would make the sport a whole lot more fun and get us back to football and not politics of who it better or has the most money. Everything would be left on the field, just win your division, then conference, and you are in the playoff.

Just drop all the bowls and go to a 16 team playoff.

Dec. 2/3 (Week After Thanksgiving) - Conference Championships (Every conference must have one winner goes to playoff, playoff committee picks 6 at large school and seeds teams )
Conference Champions:
Temple
Clemson
Penn State
Oklahoma
WKU
Western Michigan
Wyoming
Washington
Alabama
Appalchian State
At-Large:
Ohio State
Michigan
Wisconsin
USC
Colorado
Florida State

Seeding
1 Alabama
2 Clemson
3 Ohio State
4 Washington
5 Penn State
6 Michigan
7 Oklahoma
8 Wisconsin
9 USC
10 Colorado
11 Florida State
12 Western Michigan
13 San Diego State
14 Temple
15 Appalachian State
16 WKU

Dec. 9/10 (Following Week, games played) 1st Round
16 WKU @ 1 Alabama
9 USC @ 8 Wisconsin
12 Western M. @ 5 Penn State
14 SDSU @ 4 Washington
11 Florida St. @ 6 Michigan
14 Temple @ 3 Ohio State
10 Colorado @ 7 Oklahoma
15 App St. @ 2 Clemson

Dec. 16/17 2nd Round
4 Games all on campus, highest seed hosts

New Years Day
2 Playoff Games Neutral Site

National Championship Same as Now


This is the only way to make it fair for everyone and keep it fun. Would be way more fun watching 8 games on the weekend with each team playing for survival. The same goes for the second round. Imagine a Michigan home game at Noon in the second round with heavy snow, or Wisconsin going to Alabama, or Western Michigan pulling the upset at Penn State. TV wants to two things. 1 Large programs going head to head and 2 Cinderellas pulling upsets. This gives you both.

Another thing it does makes the conference championships important since it gets you to the playoff.

You can push all you want, but hell will freeze over before it happens.

Do you really think Alabama needs to play 4 more games to prove they are the best team in the country????

If the money is there they will play. Do you think they will turn down another 20 million or whatever??

(12-27-2016 02:15 AM)oldtiger Wrote:  

(12-24-2016 03:42 PM)va-eagle Wrote:  

(12-24-2016 03:21 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  I'm in the minority here but i like the at large, eye test aspect of college football. It's not fair sometimes, but it's what separates CFB from the No Fun League.

8 team playoff would be perfect. Make it 100% at large, with 1 spot guaranteed to the highest ranked G5 program, instead of the NY6 slot.

If we guarantee access to every champion, the regular season loses its value, and things like season ending OOC terrible losses become irrelevant.

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Agree 100%.

I also agree although partly for different reasons. Bowls will be even more meaningless than they are now. As devalued as the bowls are now, it's hard to be too critical of seniors who have NFZl careers ahead of them not playing in bowls. I'm pretty sure I'm in the minority on that but the bowls are no more meaningful than preseason scrimmages would be......the obvious over statement is merely for emphasis.

How does the regular season lose value if you have to win your conference to get in the playoff? The regular season would be more important than it is now.

Ohio State just won their conference and beat Ohio state who didn't even win their division and did not make the playoff. Now that is a joke.

(12-28-2016 09:13 AM)First Mate Wrote:  How does the regular season lose value if you have to win your conference to get in the playoff? The regular season would be more important than it is now.

Well... the theory goes (to which I do not ascribe) that OOC scheduling would go to crap because The only thing that counts is your conference schedule.

If we get a playoff with all 10 FBS champs and 6 at-large schools I'll start paying attention to college football again. I feel like the entire AAC football season is a waste of time under the current conditions.

(12-24-2016 01:36 PM)Carolina_Low_Country Wrote:  We really need to push for this, would make the sport a whole lot more fun and get us back to football and not politics of who it better or has the most money. Everything would be left on the field, just win your division, then conference, and you are in the playoff.

Just drop all the bowls and go to a 16 team playoff.

Dec. 2/3 (Week After Thanksgiving) - Conference Championships (Every conference must have one winner goes to playoff, playoff committee picks 6 at large school and seeds teams )
Conference Champions:
Temple
Clemson
Penn State
Oklahoma
WKU
Western Michigan
Wyoming
Washington
Alabama
Appalchian State
At-Large:
Ohio State
Michigan
Wisconsin
USC
Colorado
Florida State

Seeding
1 Alabama
2 Clemson
3 Ohio State
4 Washington
5 Penn State
6 Michigan
7 Oklahoma
8 Wisconsin
9 USC
10 Colorado
11 Florida State
12 Western Michigan
13 San Diego State
14 Temple
15 Appalachian State
16 WKU

Dec. 9/10 (Following Week, games played) 1st Round
16 WKU @ 1 Alabama
9 USC @ 8 Wisconsin
12 Western M. @ 5 Penn State
14 SDSU @ 4 Washington
11 Florida St. @ 6 Michigan
14 Temple @ 3 Ohio State
10 Colorado @ 7 Oklahoma
15 App St. @ 2 Clemson

Dec. 16/17 2nd Round
4 Games all on campus, highest seed hosts

New Years Day
2 Playoff Games Neutral Site

National Championship Same as Now


This is the only way to make it fair for everyone and keep it fun. Would be way more fun watching 8 games on the weekend with each team playing for survival. The same goes for the second round. Imagine a Michigan home game at Noon in the second round with heavy snow, or Wisconsin going to Alabama, or Western Michigan pulling the upset at Penn State. TV wants to two things. 1 Large programs going head to head and 2 Cinderellas pulling upsets. This gives you both.

Another thing it does makes the conference championships important since it gets you to the playoff.

This is the way it should be. Makes too much damn sense meaning the cartel will not allow it. Too bad, this would be huge for CFB.