(12-23-2016 11:34 PM)rileylives Wrote:  

(12-23-2016 11:29 PM)owlfan2272 Wrote:  

(12-23-2016 11:27 PM)rileylives Wrote:  

(12-23-2016 11:22 PM)pesik Wrote:  a basic rebuttal if we set up a bowl line up with

temple vs vandy
usf vs kentucky
navy (healthy) vs south carolina
tulsa vs miss state

and we go 3-1 in that line up does that mean we are better than the SEC?????

You guys are bragging about your #1s beatings our #6s or navy who was down to its 4th qb who wasnt even on the active roster to start the year

and to answer your question with my response..us going 3-1 in that bowl line doesnt stop making the sec a power conference

Not bragging. I think it's a fascinating discussion, though.

Well said. But honestly, if the AAC went 3-1 against the SEC, I can't imagine your board would be silent about that.

For the other poster who wanted to be disrespectful, I happen to root for the underdog across the board. So if Marshall sucks, like right now they certainly do, sure, I'll still follow other teams. I'm not contractually obligated to only care about Marshall.

No one has a problem with CUSA, Sun Belt etc saying they can beat American teams of course they can duh but when you guys start saying the leagues are equal that is clearly just not true. If the American invited Marshall tomorrow it would not be considered a lateral move I mean come on

True. Thanks for the respectful conversation btw...

What exactly is disrespectful by asking just what is your motivation for being here stating your "facts". It could not possibly be the numerous threads on your boards stating how delusional and dumb those AAC fans are for their P6 narrative could it?

(12-23-2016 11:41 PM)rileylives Wrote:  

(12-23-2016 11:36 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  On November 30th the CFP committee said out loud and in public that they were seriously considering 2-loss AAC Navy moving ahead of undefeated G4 WMU. The Broncos had wins over 6-6 Northwestern and Big10 cellar dwellers Illinois.
The fact that that was a legitimate conversation tells the story.
Ultimately the highs of Houston beating Oklahoma and Louisville (and Navy beating Houston) were more positive than the lows like Navy losing to (9-3) Air Force.
This bowl season has been disappointing for the AAC, but when the national narrative, supported by the Fournettes and McCaffreys of the CFB world sitting out bowl games, is that bowls don't mean much, then the overall perception that the AAC is closer to the contract-bowl-conferences than it is to the G4 will continue.
That's the point of P6 - that the AAC, season-long and top-to-bottom, is closer to those five than to the other four.
Short term we hope to see it in TV renegotiation; long term we hope to be on the inside when the next seismic shift comes in 2020-2025

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BTW...I'm a Navy vet too. I was sad to see the Army loss, but it was an awesome game.

Thanks for your service.
I really wanted the streak to go to 44 (passing the ND-Navy streak) but it didn't happen.
Disappointing end to a very good season for Navy - these seniors the winningest class in Navy history and I look forward to seeing these guys in the fleet.

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(12-23-2016 11:09 PM)StAteRedWolf Wrote:  

(12-23-2016 10:52 PM)rileylives Wrote:  What exactly makes the American believe it's a "power conference?"

The most impressive thing, which I don't want to take away are the highs.

UCF in 2013 against Baylor and Houston in 2015 against Florida State were awesome.

But you guys really need to get the bowl games in order.

Some facts since your inception in 2013...

These guys don't really believe that they are a power conference. They just like saying that P6 stuff to get a rise out of people.

This guy gets it!

(12-23-2016 11:45 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  

(12-23-2016 11:34 PM)rileylives Wrote:  

(12-23-2016 11:29 PM)owlfan2272 Wrote:  

(12-23-2016 11:27 PM)rileylives Wrote:  

(12-23-2016 11:22 PM)pesik Wrote:  a basic rebuttal if we set up a bowl line up with

temple vs vandy
usf vs kentucky
navy (healthy) vs south carolina
tulsa vs miss state

and we go 3-1 in that line up does that mean we are better than the SEC?????

You guys are bragging about your #1s beatings our #6s or navy who was down to its 4th qb who wasnt even on the active roster to start the year

and to answer your question with my response..us going 3-1 in that bowl line doesnt stop making the sec a power conference

Not bragging. I think it's a fascinating discussion, though.

Well said. But honestly, if the AAC went 3-1 against the SEC, I can't imagine your board would be silent about that.

For the other poster who wanted to be disrespectful, I happen to root for the underdog across the board. So if Marshall sucks, like right now they certainly do, sure, I'll still follow other teams. I'm not contractually obligated to only care about Marshall.

No one has a problem with CUSA, Sun Belt etc saying they can beat American teams of course they can duh but when you guys start saying the leagues are equal that is clearly just not true. If the American invited Marshall tomorrow it would not be considered a lateral move I mean come on

True. Thanks for the respectful conversation btw...

What exactly is disrespectful by asking just what is your motivation for being here stating your "facts". It could not possibly be the numerous threads on your boards stating how delusional and dumb those AAC fans are for their P6 narrative could it?

Not everyone wants to war. It was a fair question, and one I said with respect. What makes the American consider itself a power conference?

My point was while the American has hit the high point, results in bowls overall have been poor. I'm too lazy to look up other conferences, so I used ours, CUSA. I'm NOT saying CUSA = American, but is the American THAT much more prominent than the likes of CUSA?

It's a fair discussion..and really if Houston had stayed undefeated, who knows...maybe they would have broken into the playoff. But that's why I brought this up. Not to war, but to have a discussion.

These guys even troll at a G4 level.

(12-23-2016 11:53 PM)rileylives Wrote:  

(12-23-2016 11:45 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  

(12-23-2016 11:34 PM)rileylives Wrote:  

(12-23-2016 11:29 PM)owlfan2272 Wrote:  

(12-23-2016 11:27 PM)rileylives Wrote:  Not bragging. I think it's a fascinating discussion, though.

Well said. But honestly, if the AAC went 3-1 against the SEC, I can't imagine your board would be silent about that.

For the other poster who wanted to be disrespectful, I happen to root for the underdog across the board. So if Marshall sucks, like right now they certainly do, sure, I'll still follow other teams. I'm not contractually obligated to only care about Marshall.

No one has a problem with CUSA, Sun Belt etc saying they can beat American teams of course they can duh but when you guys start saying the leagues are equal that is clearly just not true. If the American invited Marshall tomorrow it would not be considered a lateral move I mean come on

True. Thanks for the respectful conversation btw...

What exactly is disrespectful by asking just what is your motivation for being here stating your "facts". It could not possibly be the numerous threads on your boards stating how delusional and dumb those AAC fans are for their P6 narrative could it?

Not everyone wants to war. It was a fair question, and one I said with respect. What makes the American consider itself a power conference?

My point was while the American has hit the high point, results in bowls overall have been poor. I'm too lazy to look up other conferences, so I used ours, CUSA. I'm NOT saying CUSA = American, but is the American THAT much more prominent than the likes of CUSA?

It's a fair discussion..and really if Houston had stayed undefeated, who knows...maybe they would have broken into the playoff. But that's why I brought this up. Not to war, but to have a discussion.

If bowl performance were the only thing that determined "prominence" then I would agree that the American isn't worth it's hype.

(12-23-2016 11:59 PM)shere khan Wrote:  These guys even troll at a G4 level.

Yeah, it's just too easy. Not even fun anymore

(12-23-2016 11:46 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(12-23-2016 11:41 PM)rileylives Wrote:  

(12-23-2016 11:36 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  On November 30th the CFP committee said out loud and in public that they were seriously considering 2-loss AAC Navy moving ahead of undefeated G4 WMU. The Broncos had wins over 6-6 Northwestern and Big10 cellar dwellers Illinois.
The fact that that was a legitimate conversation tells the story.
Ultimately the highs of Houston beating Oklahoma and Louisville (and Navy beating Houston) were more positive than the lows like Navy losing to (9-3) Air Force.
This bowl season has been disappointing for the AAC, but when the national narrative, supported by the Fournettes and McCaffreys of the CFB world sitting out bowl games, is that bowls don't mean much, then the overall perception that the AAC is closer to the contract-bowl-conferences than it is to the G4 will continue.
That's the point of P6 - that the AAC, season-long and top-to-bottom, is closer to those five than to the other four.
Short term we hope to see it in TV renegotiation; long term we hope to be on the inside when the next seismic shift comes in 2020-2025

Sent from my XT1526 using CSNbbs mobile app

BTW...I'm a Navy vet too. I was sad to see the Army loss, but it was an awesome game.

Thanks for your service.
I really wanted the streak to go to 44 (passing the ND-Navy streak) but it didn't happen.
Disappointing end to a very good season for Navy - these seniors the winningest class in Navy history and I look forward to seeing these guys in the fleet.

Sent from my XT1526 using CSNbbs mobile app

Same here. I thank every person who is a Vet of our Military organizations. It is because of people like them that we are able to be here tonight posting our thoughts freely without having to worry about being persecuted for it.

And FWIW I was in the Air Force but my stay was very brief as I was given a medical discharge (Honorable) before I could even complete my basic training at Lackland AFB. Once my medical issue was resolved I tried to re-enlist but was told I was ineligible for military service.

(12-24-2016 12:03 AM)StAteRedWolf Wrote:  

(12-23-2016 11:46 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(12-23-2016 11:41 PM)rileylives Wrote:  

(12-23-2016 11:36 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  On November 30th the CFP committee said out loud and in public that they were seriously considering 2-loss AAC Navy moving ahead of undefeated G4 WMU. The Broncos had wins over 6-6 Northwestern and Big10 cellar dwellers Illinois.
The fact that that was a legitimate conversation tells the story.
Ultimately the highs of Houston beating Oklahoma and Louisville (and Navy beating Houston) were more positive than the lows like Navy losing to (9-3) Air Force.
This bowl season has been disappointing for the AAC, but when the national narrative, supported by the Fournettes and McCaffreys of the CFB world sitting out bowl games, is that bowls don't mean much, then the overall perception that the AAC is closer to the contract-bowl-conferences than it is to the G4 will continue.
That's the point of P6 - that the AAC, season-long and top-to-bottom, is closer to those five than to the other four.
Short term we hope to see it in TV renegotiation; long term we hope to be on the inside when the next seismic shift comes in 2020-2025

Sent from my XT1526 using CSNbbs mobile app

BTW...I'm a Navy vet too. I was sad to see the Army loss, but it was an awesome game.

Thanks for your service.
I really wanted the streak to go to 44 (passing the ND-Navy streak) but it didn't happen.
Disappointing end to a very good season for Navy - these seniors the winningest class in Navy history and I look forward to seeing these guys in the fleet.

Sent from my XT1526 using CSNbbs mobile app

Same here. I thank every person who is a Vet of our Military organizations. It is because of people like them that we are able to be here tonight posting our thoughts freely without having to worry about being persecuted for it.

And FWIW I was in the Air Force but my stay was very brief as I was given a medical discharge (Honorable) before I could even complete my basic training at Lackland AFB. Once my medical issue was resolved I tried to re-enlist but was told I was ineligible for military service.

And thanks to you as well.

(12-24-2016 12:02 AM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  

(12-23-2016 11:53 PM)rileylives Wrote:  

(12-23-2016 11:45 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  

(12-23-2016 11:34 PM)rileylives Wrote:  

(12-23-2016 11:29 PM)owlfan2272 Wrote:  No one has a problem with CUSA, Sun Belt etc saying they can beat American teams of course they can duh but when you guys start saying the leagues are equal that is clearly just not true. If the American invited Marshall tomorrow it would not be considered a lateral move I mean come on

True. Thanks for the respectful conversation btw...

What exactly is disrespectful by asking just what is your motivation for being here stating your "facts". It could not possibly be the numerous threads on your boards stating how delusional and dumb those AAC fans are for their P6 narrative could it?

Not everyone wants to war. It was a fair question, and one I said with respect. What makes the American consider itself a power conference?

My point was while the American has hit the high point, results in bowls overall have been poor. I'm too lazy to look up other conferences, so I used ours, CUSA. I'm NOT saying CUSA = American, but is the American THAT much more prominent than the likes of CUSA?

It's a fair discussion..and really if Houston had stayed undefeated, who knows...maybe they would have broken into the playoff. But that's why I brought this up. Not to war, but to have a discussion.

If bowl performance were the only thing that determined "prominence" then I would agree that the American isn't worth it's hype.

I know our conference (CUSA) craps the bed generally in OOC, but I am proud of our bowl performances.

Marshall, when they get there, is a tough out in bowl games. We just need those landmark wins.

And Shere Khan, not a troll...if there was a six PAC emoji, that's what I would have posted initially...I come in peace...

I come in peace! Reminds me of the movie and you know how that turned out.

(12-24-2016 12:10 AM)TulsaEye Wrote:  I come in peace! Reminds me of the movie and you know how that turned out.

Yeah, he left in pieces.

I come in peace, with all due respect, don't take this the wrong way


But




Lulz G4 level trolling.

(12-24-2016 12:36 AM)shere khan Wrote:  I come in peace, with all due respect, don't take this the wrong way


But




Lulz G4 level trolling.

Shere Khan, does Old Tiger still post around here? He was a good dude.

The question was simple, why is the AAC considered a p6 by some AAC fans...
Answer: hmmmm, hmmmm, well let me think..., hmmmm, OH wait I got it! It's becouse Houston bad ass Cougars are in the AAC...

(12-24-2016 12:45 AM)JHS55 Wrote:  The question was simple, why is the AAC considered a p6 by some AAC fans...
Answer: hmmmm, hmmmm, well let me think..., hmmmm, OH wait I got it! It's becouse Houston bad ass Cougars are in the AAC...

What matters is what the P5 guys think, which the worst of their group says there isn't a AAC team worth an invite. Just like us, sitting at the kids table.

You are correct, the AAC is the better league of the G5, we all know it. And we all know UH is towing the line for the AAC. Being the elite G5 isn't that bad a spot to be in.

USM isn't happy where we are, but we are proud of our conference mates for their bowl performances. CUSA has a little swagger going into the offseason. We hope to build on that and separate our status from the SBC and MAC.

(12-24-2016 01:11 AM)va-eagle Wrote:  

(12-24-2016 12:45 AM)JHS55 Wrote:  The question was simple, why is the AAC considered a p6 by some AAC fans...
Answer: hmmmm, hmmmm, well let me think..., hmmmm, OH wait I got it! It's becouse Houston bad ass Cougars are in the AAC...

What matters is what the P5 guys think, which the worst of their group says there isn't a AAC team worth an invite. Just like us, sitting at the kids table.

You are correct, the AAC is the better league of the G5, we all know it. And we all know UH is towing the line for the AAC. Being the elite G5 isn't that bad a spot to be in.

USM isn't happy where we are, but we are proud of our conference mates for their bowl performances. CUSA has a little swagger going into the offseason. We hope to build on that and separate our status from the SBC and MAC.

Swagger? For what? Good lord some of you G4ers will grasp at anything. Swagger.

If the AAC is a power conference, then kindly remind me which NY6 Bowl Game your tie-in is? You compete for the same NY6 bid as the rest of the G5.

Is the AAC the best G5 conference? Yup. Is it still, by definition, a G5 conference? Yup.

Look. I get it. You guys want your teams to be thought of as high level. You want to be compared to the P5. Some of your teams were once in a "BCS Conference" (even if it was widely considered the lowest one). I totally understand that. But the fact of the matter is, although the AAC is the best G5 conference, it's still a G5 conference. Why? NY6 tie-in, perception by the media, perception by the P5, the monetary difference between the AAC and the P5 (spoiler alert: it's huge).

I cheer for you guys, especially when you play P5 teams. I loved watching Houston beat Oklahoma, and was hoping Houston could make the playoffs (and hopefully at least win the semi) to show the world that the G5 schools can play, too. But let's be real. The whole P6 thing just makes you look silly, especially to the P5 people who look at you just the same as the rest of the G5.

(12-23-2016 10:54 PM)rileylives Wrote:  CUSA vs American (since 2013)

Current AAC members are 1-4 against current CUSA members in bowl games since 2013

Please tell me the obsession guys lije you have with the AAC? Do you really feel tgat inferior? Beating us is obviously a huge deal. I think we can say our 6 anf 7th place teams losing yo numver 1s but still being favored says,alot about tge strength of the AAC.

At the end of the Bowl season Cusa and the Sunvelt will be fighting for scraps like they always have. AAC schools will continue to have more fans,better tv,more money,more prestige more upside than any of your leagues because of the schools in this conf. Marshall is never going to make it out of CusA. So why does it matter to you what happens to this league.

"And you shall leave in pieces"