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Cities not picked for expansion
It's my understanding that leagues announce expansion plans and groups from various cities make proposals. What cities weren't picked in various rounds of expansion? (Across all NA sports)
12-22-2016 10:42 PM
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RE: Cities not picked for expansion
(12-22-2016 10:42 PM)Erictelevision Wrote:  It's my understanding that leagues announce expansion plans and groups from various cities make proposals. What cities weren't picked in various rounds of expansion? (Across all NA sports)

Seattle and KC never got those NHL franchises....


But.... at what point are you making a line in the sand on a want to, tried to, put up a bid, lost bid for, rumored to but never went official to said league?
12-22-2016 11:24 PM
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The line I'm thinking: officially a finalist. And in case it matters: post-WWII.
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12-22-2016 11:33 PM
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(12-22-2016 11:33 PM)Erictelevision Wrote:  The line I'm thinking: officially a finalist. And in case it matters: post-WWII.

What would you call a moving franchise that had multiple bidders but picked one locale?

Thoughts along the lines of:

NHL:

Whalers picking Raleigh
Jets moving to Arizona
Nordiques moving to Colorado
Thrashers moving to Winnipeg

NBA:

I want to say the Kings were originally in KC, then ended up in Sacramento, not sure who else was trying to lure them.

Seattle Sonics picked OKC over other choices....

Grizzlies move to Memphis from Vancouver....

I don't remember all the cities in the pool that ended up being the Final Four of Minnesota, Charlotte, Orlando, and Miami back in the mid to late 80s.

I don't recall all the candidates when the NBA went to Canada with Vancouver and Toronto.

NFL:

I don't remember the pool when Charlotte/Carolina and Jacksonville got the nod.

Then you had the repercussions expansions of Cleveland Browns to the Baltimore Ravens, Houston Oilers to Tennessee Titans with a new Browns team coming back to Cleveland and Houston being awarded the Texans.
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RE: Cities not picked for expansion
I wouldn't even know where to start when the CFL tried North American expansion ....

Then you have the WLAF.....that half of it morphed into NFLE when the US franchises went down.
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Pirate: that's relocating, not expansion!
12-23-2016 12:18 AM
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(12-23-2016 12:18 AM)Erictelevision Wrote:  Pirate: that's relocating, not expansion!

Relocating teams fielded multiple bids from cities and picked one over the other ... so in some regards that would be getting declined for a pro franchise.

I believe the Sonics had multiple suitors and settled on OKC. So in essence those cities the Sonics didn't choose were denied a new team.
12-23-2016 01:10 AM
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Uh, I don't know if you're being deliberately obtuse, but that IS NOT expansion!
12-23-2016 02:06 AM
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(12-23-2016 01:10 AM)PirateTreasureNC Wrote:  I believe the Sonics had multiple suitors and settled on OKC. So in essence those cities the Sonics didn't choose were denied a new team.

No, the billionaire Sonics owner (founder of Starbucks) wanted to spite Seattle for not promptly gifting him a new arena, so he sold the team to owners based in Oklahoma who bought the franchise with the intention of moving it to OKC.
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RE: Cities not picked for expansion
He was trying to railroad them, proposing an arena in an awful location and then putting in unrealistic terms so he could justify moving if they refused. They had just renovated Key Arena a little over a decade earlier. Worst yet, the NBA commissioner was bullheaded and behind it 110%, so he could get a team in OKC.

That team should have been the Hornets (now Pelicans), as New Orleans was struggling to support that team and in reality is not a pro sports market. That's right, it's not a pro sports market, the Saints have been there almost 50 years but the NFL has the added benefit of being a weekend sport, so people throughout Louisiana and Mississippi can support them as well. Those states are among the very poorest states in the entire country and New Orleans has among the lowest median income levels of all pro sports places. We saw just how impoverished and how big the city's underclass was after Katrina hit.

It's a damn shame what these leagues and owners do to leverage teams into doing their bidding.
12-25-2016 12:39 AM
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