(12-25-2016 07:47 PM)watchngars Wrote:  Current Sagarin: JMU 40 - Texas State 200

Boom

looks like JMU moved up a spot from last week from 41 to 40 there may be still some slight further upward movement as bowl games conclude and ratings updated and ofcourse a couple of points if Jmu wins the NC.

Massey has a matchup simulator. Pretty cool. Not sure if this is new but interesting to see some of the predictions.

On neutral sites:
JMU-ODU
-> 7 point favorite

JMU-VT
-> 5 point dog

JMU-UVA
-> 9 point favorite

(12-27-2016 09:02 PM)JMUisat2014 Wrote:  Massey has a matchup simulator. Pretty cool. Not sure if this is new but interesting to see some of the predictions.

On neutral sites:
JMU-ODU
-> 7 point favorite

JMU-VT
-> 5 point dog

JMU-UVA
-> 9 point favorite

The sad part, we may never play any of the three again

(12-27-2016 09:14 PM)Purplehazed Wrote:  

(12-27-2016 09:02 PM)JMUisat2014 Wrote:  Massey has a matchup simulator. Pretty cool. Not sure if this is new but interesting to see some of the predictions.

On neutral sites:
JMU-ODU
-> 7 point favorite

JMU-VT
-> 5 point dog

JMU-UVA
-> 9 point favorite

The sad part, we may never play any of the three again

NO THE SAD PART WAS I KNEW YOU'D POST EXACTLY THAT BEFORE I EVEN SCROLLED DOWN

(12-27-2016 09:02 PM)JMUisat2014 Wrote:  Massey has a matchup simulator. Pretty cool. Not sure if this is new but interesting to see some of the predictions.

On neutral sites:
JMU-ODU
-> 7 point favorite

JMU-VT
-> 5 point dog

JMU-UVA
-> 9 point favorite

I think top FCS teams get a big over-rating on Massey.

Massey has us beating schools like Michigan St., South Carolina, Navy, Memphis, etc., some of them by more than a TD, and playing teams like UNC or Pitt close. I see none of that happening more than once out of 10 games played.

(12-27-2016 09:52 PM)JMaddy Wrote:  

(12-27-2016 09:02 PM)JMUisat2014 Wrote:  Massey has a matchup simulator. Pretty cool. Not sure if this is new but interesting to see some of the predictions.

On neutral sites:
JMU-ODU
-> 7 point favorite

JMU-VT
-> 5 point dog

JMU-UVA
-> 9 point favorite

I think top FCS teams get a big over-rating on Massey.

Massey has us beating schools like Michigan St., South Carolina, Navy, Memphis, etc., some of them by more than a TD, and playing teams like UNC or Pitt close. I see none of that happening more than once out of 10 games played.

We're a 5 point dog to UNC and they win 2 out of every 3 games based on win probability %. Seems right to me with who we've beaten since and how the team is playing now vs Week 3. Maybe a little inflated.

(12-27-2016 09:57 PM)JMUisat2014 Wrote:  

(12-27-2016 09:52 PM)JMaddy Wrote:  

(12-27-2016 09:02 PM)JMUisat2014 Wrote:  Massey has a matchup simulator. Pretty cool. Not sure if this is new but interesting to see some of the predictions.

On neutral sites:
JMU-ODU
-> 7 point favorite

JMU-VT
-> 5 point dog

JMU-UVA
-> 9 point favorite

I think top FCS teams get a big over-rating on Massey.

Massey has us beating schools like Michigan St., South Carolina, Navy, Memphis, etc., some of them by more than a TD, and playing teams like UNC or Pitt close. I see none of that happening more than once out of 10 games played.

We're a 5 point dog to UNC and they win 2 out of every 3 games. Seems right to me with who we've beaten since and how the team is playing now vs Week 3. Maybe a little inflated.

I still think that is a score you'd see only once out of 10 games if we're on point all game. The other 9 look more like week 3. But that's ok, we don't need to beat UNC, we just need to take care of YSU, which I say happens 10 times out of 10. And it won't be close.

What's our Massey say for us against ECU next season??

(12-28-2016 09:55 AM)DirtyDukes Wrote:  What's our Massey say for us against ECU next season??

It shows us winning @ ECU by 2 TD but kind of pointless given so many changes from year to year.

http://www.masseyratings.com/game.php?s0...University

(12-28-2016 09:08 PM)JMaddy Wrote:  

(12-28-2016 09:55 AM)DirtyDukes Wrote:  What's our Massey say for us against ECU next season??

It shows us winning @ ECU by 2 TD but kind of pointless given so many changes from year to year.

http://www.masseyratings.com/game.php?s0...University

Unless there are big offseason changes at ECU and/or JMU, that is a game I see us winning, and quite easily. Sagarin ratings/predictor would also support a JMU win. A road trip there would be fun.

Maybe folks are forgetting just how good NDSU is? They have beaten a number of FBS squads, including #13 Iowa this year. JMU is a legit top 50 or better team, and some of the FBS schools are not, including South Carolina, Navy and others mentioned. Belonging to the SEC doesnt magically bestow greatness, though some of their alums seem to think so.

(12-29-2016 08:02 AM)JMURocks Wrote:  

(12-28-2016 09:08 PM)JMaddy Wrote:  

(12-28-2016 09:55 AM)DirtyDukes Wrote:  What's our Massey say for us against ECU next season??

It shows us winning @ ECU by 2 TD but kind of pointless given so many changes from year to year.

http://www.masseyratings.com/game.php?s0...University

Unless there are big offseason changes at ECU and/or JMU, that is a game I see us winning, and quite easily. Sagarin ratings/predictor would also support a JMU win. A road trip there would be fun.

Maybe folks are forgetting just how good NDSU is? They have beaten a number of FBS squads, including #13 Iowa this year. JMU is a legit top 50 or better team, and some of the FBS schools are not, including South Carolina, Navy and others mentioned. Belonging to the SEC doesnt magically bestow greatness, though some of their alums seem to think so.

What I mean is we're losing 3/5 our starting OL, our #1 and #3 receivers, our #1 RB, our D-Captain and starting MIKE Backer and who da fug knows what's going to happen to Alls and Hereford? All that taken into account plus the possibility of injuries on both teams (and to the fact I have no idea what's happening to ECU starters), I stand by my assertion that it is way too early to make a prediction based on current Saragin ratings and Massey predictors.

(12-30-2016 04:19 PM)JMaddy Wrote:  

(12-29-2016 08:02 AM)JMURocks Wrote:  

(12-28-2016 09:08 PM)JMaddy Wrote:  

(12-28-2016 09:55 AM)DirtyDukes Wrote:  What's our Massey say for us against ECU next season??

It shows us winning @ ECU by 2 TD but kind of pointless given so many changes from year to year.

http://www.masseyratings.com/game.php?s0...University

Unless there are big offseason changes at ECU and/or JMU, that is a game I see us winning, and quite easily. Sagarin ratings/predictor would also support a JMU win. A road trip there would be fun.

Maybe folks are forgetting just how good NDSU is? They have beaten a number of FBS squads, including #13 Iowa this year. JMU is a legit top 50 or better team, and some of the FBS schools are not, including South Carolina, Navy and others mentioned. Belonging to the SEC doesnt magically bestow greatness, though some of their alums seem to think so.

What I mean is we're losing 3/5 our starting OL, our #1 and #3 receivers, our #1 RB, our D-Captain and starting MIKE Backer and who da fug knows what's going to happen to Alls and Hereford? All that taken into account plus the possibility of injuries on both teams (and to the fact I have no idea what's happening to ECU starters), I stand by my assertion that it is way too early to make a prediction based on current Saragin ratings and Massey predictors.

Oh its worse than that. Of the 5 JMU WR with more than 5 receptions, 3, and maybe 4, are gone. Top WR this season:
1. Ravenel- Sr
2. Alls- rJr suspended for 1st 3.5? games (Is he even back- remember he was booted from Duke's football team).
3. Taylor- Sr
4. Davis- Sr
5. Miller Jr

(12-30-2016 05:20 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  Oh its worse than that. Of the 5 JMU WR with more than 5 receptions, 3, and maybe 4, are gone. Top WR this season:
1. Ravenel- Sr
2. Alls- rJr suspended for 1st 3.5? games (Is he even back- remember he was booted from Duke's football team).
3. Taylor- Sr
4. Davis- Sr
5. Miller Jr

Hyman and Miller will be our top WRs next year barring any transfers. That's a good start, but not enough. I think Hyman will have a really good year, though. He's been underutilized due to some off-field issues before the season and the emergence of Alls.

I don't think we see Alls at JMU next season. I think he was on thin ice already and this suspension just sealed the deal.

My guess is, barring no transfers, we see Hyman and Stapleton on the outsides and Miller in the slot. I don't know what Stapleton is capable of, but he's been on the hands team all season and was seen as a pretty good get when recruited. I'll be curious to see if Braxton Westfield ends up developing into a nice option. Big guy with good hands, only moderate speed, though. I don't know anything really about the freshman coming in.

My hope is for another Domo or 2 to come our way via JuCo or FBS transfer.

After yesterday's bowl games, JMU up to #39 in Sags!!!

5-7 point favorite over YSU.

33 in Final....new thread already, though.

(12-23-2016 09:01 PM)2Buck Wrote:  I was at JMU from 88 to 92. Despite the fervor of Lefty basketball there was still a lot of love for JMU football. I had several roommates on the team and considering they played many top teams like Ga Southern, Youngstown and App St each year they held up pretty well and lived large on campus.

I was there from 88 to 94 (yeah yeah) and I always felt like basketball was a tremendous disappointment. We only went to the dance once, and I felt like we were always losing to the #8 seed in the CAA tournament, and Lefty would be out there demanding an at-large bid, then we'd lose in the first round of the NIT anyway.

(01-12-2017 08:40 PM)94computerguy Wrote:  

(12-23-2016 09:01 PM)2Buck Wrote:  I was at JMU from 88 to 92. Despite the fervor of Lefty basketball there was still a lot of love for JMU football. I had several roommates on the team and considering they played many top teams like Ga Southern, Youngstown and App St each year they held up pretty well and lived large on campus.

I was there from 88 to 94 (yeah yeah) and I always felt like basketball was a tremendous disappointment. We only went to the dance once, and I felt like we were always losing to the #8 seed in the CAA tournament, and Lefty would be out there demanding an at-large bid, then we'd lose in the first round of the NIT anyway.

lol, 88 to 93 guy here...no shame in staying an extra year (or two)

(01-12-2017 08:55 PM)s2dsayer Wrote:  

(01-12-2017 08:40 PM)94computerguy Wrote:  

(12-23-2016 09:01 PM)2Buck Wrote:  I was at JMU from 88 to 92. Despite the fervor of Lefty basketball there was still a lot of love for JMU football. I had several roommates on the team and considering they played many top teams like Ga Southern, Youngstown and App St each year they held up pretty well and lived large on campus.

I was there from 88 to 94 (yeah yeah) and I always felt like basketball was a tremendous disappointment. We only went to the dance once, and I felt like we were always losing to the #8 seed in the CAA tournament, and Lefty would be out there demanding an at-large bid, then we'd lose in the first round of the NIT anyway.

lol, 88 to 93 guy here...no shame in staying an extra year (or two)

Dude, in hindsight I would have stayed 6 years too. Good for you.

Hey, 96-02 here. I would have loved to stay longer, but I ran out of classes to take!

(01-12-2017 08:55 PM)s2dsayer Wrote:  

(01-12-2017 08:40 PM)94computerguy Wrote:  

(12-23-2016 09:01 PM)2Buck Wrote:  I was at JMU from 88 to 92. Despite the fervor of Lefty basketball there was still a lot of love for JMU football. I had several roommates on the team and considering they played many top teams like Ga Southern, Youngstown and App St each year they held up pretty well and lived large on campus.

I was there from 88 to 94 (yeah yeah) and I always felt like basketball was a tremendous disappointment. We only went to the dance once, and I felt like we were always losing to the #8 seed in the CAA tournament, and Lefty would be out there demanding an at-large bid, then we'd lose in the first round of the NIT anyway.

lol, 88 to 93 guy here...no shame in staying an extra year (or two)

Yeah, 76 to 82 here. It looks like several of us were on the 6 year plan. It was Madison College and the Dukes were D-III when I started.