From Shocker.net a week ago:

"Kennedy on this morning sports show said what he as learned about the AAC is their commish would be open to adding WSU, but the schools don't have any interest of adding another team(s) unless somebody leaves the conference."

Sound like UConn doesn't want to travel to Kansas to get beat some more.

Here are the MVC By-Laws just in case a deal gets done. 24 months notice is required. Our TV deal expires 2019-2020. So Wichita St would have to give notice by June 30, 2018 to comply with the regs and join for the 2020-21 season. In other words, we have some time here.

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3.5 RESIGNATION FROM MEMBERSHIP
A Conference member who wishes to resign its membership may do so upon proper notification and in accordance with its membership obligations.

3.5.1 Procedure.
When a member institution wishes to resign from the Conference, the following procedure is employed:

3.5.1.1 The CEO of the resigning institution must give written notice, via registered mail, to the Conference President and Conference Commissioner.

3.5.1.2 A minimum of 24 months’ notice of an institution’s intention to withdraw from the membership is required.

3.5.1.3 The Conference Commissioner shall notify the resigning institution and the Joint Committee and Presidents Council of the arrangements for termination.

3.5.2 Obligations of Resigning Member.
Effective the date of resignation, all membership rights including rights to Conference assets cease. However:

3.5.2.1Any monies, fines, penalties or assessments owed by a resigning memberinstitution are still considered a debt owed the Conference, and must be paid priorto the effective date of resignation.

3.5.2.2 Until the effective date of the resignation, the member institution assumes all the rights and obligations of other members and is expected to honor all scheduling commitments to member institutions, although existing athletics contracts may be voided by the surviving Conference party to the contract. (This regulation does not apply to any member institution that moves from Division I to another Division of the NCAA.)

3.5.3 Conference Obligations.
The Conference shall distribute funds to departing or withdrawing institutions as follows:
3.5.3.1 With 24 or more months’ notice of intent to resign from the membership, the departing institution receives 100% of its distributions, per Conference formula(see Bylaw 6.11), for the remaining years prior to the resignation becoming effective. (6/15)

3.5.3.2 With 12-23 months’ notice of intent to resign from the membership, the departing institution receives 50% of its distributions, per Conference formula (seeBylaw 6.11), for the remaining year(s) prior to the resignation becoming effective. (6/15)

3.5.3.3 With less than 12 months’ notice of intent to resign from the membership, the departing institution receives no further distributions from the Conference.(6/15)

3.5.3.4 Resigning institutions will not receive any share of Conference assets or reserve funds upon withdrawal from the membership.

The MVC by-laws look fair. I was wondering if there would be that awful clause the CAA has invoked multiple times where a departing member is ineligible for the conference tournaments (and thus, autobid).

In 2001, they had a six-team tournament out of nine members as ECU (C-USA), Richmond (A-10), and American (Patriot League) were all prohibited.

VCU wisely gave less than two months' notice due with their exit in 2013 ... but Georgia State and Old Dominion stuck around for one more, thus excluded from the last tournament hosted by the city of Richmond.

I'm disappointed to read that there are apparently not enough votes to add Wichita State.

(01-21-2017 03:22 PM)MemTGRS Wrote:  The MVC by-laws look fair. I was wondering if there would be that awful clause the CAA has invoked multiple times where a departing member is ineligible for the conference tournaments (and thus, autobid).

In 2001, they had a six-team tournament out of nine members as ECU (C-USA), Richmond (A-10), and American (Patriot League) were all prohibited.

VCU wisely gave less than two months' notice due with their exit in 2013 ... but Georgia State and Old Dominion stuck around for one more, thus excluded from the last tournament hosted by the city of Richmond.

I'm disappointed to read that there are apparently not enough votes to add Wichita State.

If we only get 2 in the NCAA tourney (now very likely), Wichita State is going to make sense to strengthen the basketball side.

Here are the RPI's outside of Houston with any shot at an at large bid...

Temple - 69 (10-10 record) - Not likely
Houston - 71 (13-6 record) - It would take an incredible run
UCF - 84 (14-4 record) - It would take an incredible run
Memphis - 89 (14-5) - same

The bball in the AAC has been very disappointing.

(01-22-2017 08:09 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  The bball in the AAC has been very disappointing.

I would agree. I honestly thought it would be much like the football side but it really hasn't materialized at all yet. With historically strong programs like Memphis, Temple, UConn and Cincinnati I thought that would form a good core and if a couple of others rose up (SMU and Houston based on who they hired at the time) it would be solid b-ball league with Tulsa generally being solid as well. Just seems like everyone outside of Cincinnati from that core group is going through a rough patch. Hopefully some of the recent hires get this thing going though and hopefully new hires at USF and hopefully ECU really propel the league up. I do think a Wichita add would be positive.

I watched about 1 quarter of WSU/Indiana State WBB game... it reminded me of my daughters JHS games.

IMHO, as good as people think WSU man's BB is the rest of their sports leave a lot to be desired, I don't think they are AAC caliber teams.

(01-22-2017 08:06 AM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(01-21-2017 03:22 PM)MemTGRS Wrote:  I'm disappointed to read that there are apparently not enough votes to add Wichita State.

If we only get 2 in the NCAA tourney (now very likely), Wichita State is going to make sense to strengthen the basketball side.

Agree with both of the above.

At this point, UC and SMU are obviously on track for 4th-7th seeds. Anybody else must either win the auto-bid or else not lose another game until the conference tourn. championship

No one could have known that Memphis, Uconn, and Temple would all take steps backwards. Thankfully SMU took a leap forward. UH and UCF are getting better, but we need the other 3 to return to form. There is no reason the current AAC cant be a 3 to 5 bid conf.

(01-28-2017 10:22 AM)goodknightfl Wrote:  No one could have known that Memphis, Uconn, and Temple would all take steps backwards. Thankfully SMU took a leap forward. UH and UCF are getting better, but we need the other 3 to return to form. There is no reason the current AAC cant be a 3 to 5 bid conf.

I think we all will and with the other teams getting better, this league will be solid in the near future.

(01-28-2017 02:14 AM)BEAST Football Wrote:  IMHO, as good as people think WSU man's BB is the rest of their sports leave a lot to be desired, I don't think they are AAC caliber teams.

I simply shrug with this comment. Men's BB is THE reason to add them. But if you must look further, I think those in the know will agree they have a fine baseball program as well. Perhaps their volleyball is not so strong and we'd exclude them for that????

(01-28-2017 01:12 PM)MemTGRS Wrote:  

(01-28-2017 02:14 AM)BEAST Football Wrote:  IMHO, as good as people think WSU man's BB is the rest of their sports leave a lot to be desired, I don't think they are AAC caliber teams.

I simply shrug with this comment. Men's BB is THE reason to add them. But if you must look further, I think those in the know will agree they have a fine baseball program as well. Perhaps their volleyball is not so strong and we'd exclude them for that????

Their baseball would be a welcome addition as well.

(01-28-2017 04:45 PM)Phil Lacio Wrote:  

(01-28-2017 01:12 PM)MemTGRS Wrote:  

(01-28-2017 02:14 AM)BEAST Football Wrote:  IMHO, as good as people think WSU man's BB is the rest of their sports leave a lot to be desired, I don't think they are AAC caliber teams.

I simply shrug with this comment. Men's BB is THE reason to add them. But if you must look further, I think those in the know will agree they have a fine baseball program as well. Perhaps their volleyball is not so strong and we'd exclude them for that????

Their baseball would be a welcome addition as well.

Let's see... who in this conference cares about baseball... Hhhmmm... UConn, ECU, and Tulane... maybe Houston?

Name anyone else.

The only reason I mentioned WBB is because UConn WBB is something special, something that happens once in a life time.

If you can't see that, well, you can just sit there and KSYH.

I don't think adding one more mediocre to bad girls basketball team to this conference will have an effect on the juggernaut known as UCONN Womens Basketball.

When you routinely destroy everyone else in the top 25 you are in a whole different sub category.

(01-29-2017 04:59 AM)BEAST Football Wrote:  

(01-28-2017 04:45 PM)Phil Lacio Wrote:  

(01-28-2017 01:12 PM)MemTGRS Wrote:  

(01-28-2017 02:14 AM)BEAST Football Wrote:  IMHO, as good as people think WSU man's BB is the rest of their sports leave a lot to be desired, I don't think they are AAC caliber teams.

I simply shrug with this comment. Men's BB is THE reason to add them. But if you must look further, I think those in the know will agree they have a fine baseball program as well. Perhaps their volleyball is not so strong and we'd exclude them for that????

Their baseball would be a welcome addition as well.

Let's see... who in this conference cares about baseball... Hhhmmm... UConn, ECU, and Tulane... maybe Houston?

Name anyone else.

The only reason I mentioned WBB is because UConn WBB is something special, something that happens once in a life time.

If you can't see that, well, you can just sit there and KSYH.

College baseball continues to increase in resources and media coverage. We should care about it and nurture it as it could become a more important sport in the grand scheme down the road.

(01-29-2017 04:59 AM)BEAST Football Wrote:  Let's see... who in this conference cares about baseball... Hhhmmm... UConn, ECU, and Tulane... maybe Houston?

Name anyone else.

Houston
Tulane
Memphis
UCF
South Florida
East Carolina
UConn

(01-29-2017 10:22 AM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(01-29-2017 04:59 AM)BEAST Football Wrote:  Let's see... who in this conference cares about baseball... Hhhmmm... UConn, ECU, and Tulane... maybe Houston?

Name anyone else.

Houston
Tulane
Memphis
UCF
South Florida
East Carolina
UConn

He must be a Temple fan. Temple, SMU and Tulsa do not have baseball programs. He also said "maybe Houston cares about baseball? Maybe? He knows nothing about Houston or AAC baseball obviously.
Cheers!

Tulsa dropped baseball back in the 1970's (due to Title 9) and it was one of the most successful programs here. Were national runnersup in our two CWS appearances. There is also talk from time to time about bringing it back. It probably won't happen, at least not soon, but if WSU were to be in the league, the discussion might restart. There is a very nice minor league venue just a short distance from campus - (OneOk field that OU and OSU already play a few games in each year.)


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulsa_Gold...e_baseball

(01-29-2017 04:59 AM)BEAST Football Wrote:  

(01-28-2017 04:45 PM)Phil Lacio Wrote:  

(01-28-2017 01:12 PM)MemTGRS Wrote:  

(01-28-2017 02:14 AM)BEAST Football Wrote:  IMHO, as good as people think WSU man's BB is the rest of their sports leave a lot to be desired, I don't think they are AAC caliber teams.

I simply shrug with this comment. Men's BB is THE reason to add them. But if you must look further, I think those in the know will agree they have a fine baseball program as well. Perhaps their volleyball is not so strong and we'd exclude them for that????

Their baseball would be a welcome addition as well.

Let's see... who in this conference cares about baseball... Hhhmmm... UConn, ECU, and Tulane... maybe Houston?

Name anyone else.

The only reason I mentioned WBB is because UConn WBB is something special, something that happens once in a life time.

If you can't see that, well, you can just sit there and KSYH.

UCF cares about Baseball and we have had a lot of success over the years...

SMU has enough money to just BUY Dallas Baptist's baseball program, don't they?

(01-30-2017 11:50 AM)rabidTU2 Wrote:  Tulsa dropped baseball back in the 1970's (due to Title 9)

There have been other factors, too, but Title IX has basically been an atomic-bomb dropped on men's non-revenue sports.