Great video. Part of the fun for me was recognizing the different players through the years. Keith Starks, one of my favorites and personal friend in college, was in several of the cuts. Fortson, Patterson, Kenyon, Logan, Mel and others can also be seen.
(12-15-2016 10:21 AM)Cat-Man Wrote: He does make the HOF because of number of wins. But two Final Fours in 37 years of coaching?
What's the ratio of multiple final four coaches to all DI coaches since the inception of the NCAA?
A better question would be, what is the ratio of coaches who have coached 30+ years to multiple final four appearances?
I guess my point is, if it is acceptable to have 2 final fours in 37 years, then maybe our expectations of Mick are too high.
Nice try. In addition to more wins per season, Bob also has a couple Elite Eights, three Sweet Sixteens, 9 Conference Championships and 9 conference tournament championships on Mick.
All Americans, NBA draft picks, or just about any other metric you can think of.
(12-15-2016 04:51 PM)Not Duane Wrote: What's the ratio of multiple final four coaches to all DI coaches since the inception of the NCAA?
A better question would be, what is the ratio of coaches who have coached 30+ years to multiple final four appearances?
I guess my point is, if it is acceptable to have 2 final fours in 37 years, then maybe our expectations of Mick are too high.
Nice try. In addition to more wins per season, Bob also has a couple Elite Eights, three Sweet Sixteens, 9 Conference Championships and 9 conference tournament championships on Mick.
All Americans, NBA draft picks, or just about any other metric you can think of.
Also interesting that Huggins is 5-2 against Cronin all-time.
Huggins also has more wins over higher seeded teams in the tournament than Cronin all-time.
(12-16-2016 11:25 AM)Cat-Man Wrote: A better question would be, what is the ratio of coaches who have coached 30+ years to multiple final four appearances?
I guess my point is, if it is acceptable to have 2 final fours in 37 years, then maybe our expectations of Mick are too high.
Nice try. In addition to more wins per season, Bob also has a couple Elite Eights, three Sweet Sixteens, 9 Conference Championships and 9 conference tournament championships on Mick.
All Americans, NBA draft picks, or just about any other metric you can think of.
Also interesting that Huggins is 5-2 against Cronin all-time.
Huggins also has more wins over higher seeded teams in the tournament than Cronin all-time.
Interesting stuff...
None at UC right?
That's kind of like arguing that Oscar Roberston never won an NBA championship since he didn't accomplish that feat while with the Royals.
It also depends on how you interpret the final 4 game against Michigan in 92. But after his tenure at UC, Huggins has defeated multiple higher-seeded teams. So when comparing career stats, Cronin falls short on that metric.
(This post was last modified: 12-22-2016 01:45 PM by Not Duane.)
(12-16-2016 11:37 AM)CliftonAve Wrote: Nice try. In addition to more wins per season, Bob also has a couple Elite Eights, three Sweet Sixteens, 9 Conference Championships and 9 conference tournament championships on Mick.
All Americans, NBA draft picks, or just about any other metric you can think of.
Also interesting that Huggins is 5-2 against Cronin all-time.
Huggins also has more wins over higher seeded teams in the tournament than Cronin all-time.
Interesting stuff...
None at UC right?
That's kind of like arguing that Oscar Roberston never won an NBA championship since he didn't accomplish that feat while with the Royals.
It also depends on how you interpret the final 4 game against Michigan in 92. But after his tenure at UC, Huggins has defeated multiple higher-seeded teams. So when comparing career stats, Cronin falls short on that metric.
I am neither anti Huggins or Cronin. But if we are in a thread about going down memory lane with the Bearcats than the clarification is in order. The 5-2 record is also a little slanted since it includes those horrendous teams that arguably Huggins caused.
Also interesting that Huggins is 5-2 against Cronin all-time.
Huggins also has more wins over higher seeded teams in the tournament than Cronin all-time.
Interesting stuff...
None at UC right?
That's kind of like arguing that Oscar Roberston never won an NBA championship since he didn't accomplish that feat while with the Royals.
It also depends on how you interpret the final 4 game against Michigan in 92. But after his tenure at UC, Huggins has defeated multiple higher-seeded teams. So when comparing career stats, Cronin falls short on that metric.
I am neither anti Huggins or Cronin. But if we are in a thread about going down memory lane with the Bearcats than the clarification is in order. The 5-2 record is also a little slanted since it includes those horrendous teams that arguably Huggins caused.
Odd...since both of Cronin's wins were in the 2nd 2 meetings in his DI tenure.....you would think steady improvment would have placed those wins towards the end of the series between the 2 teams.
And some would argue that Dr. Zimpher caused those horrendous teams, as Huggins wanted to remain at UC despite the efforts to oust him.
(This post was last modified: 12-22-2016 04:59 PM by Not Duane.)
Also interesting that Huggins is 5-2 against Cronin all-time.
Huggins also has more wins over higher seeded teams in the tournament than Cronin all-time.
Interesting stuff...
None at UC right?
That's kind of like arguing that Oscar Roberston never won an NBA championship since he didn't accomplish that feat while with the Royals.
It also depends on how you interpret the final 4 game against Michigan in 92. But after his tenure at UC, Huggins has defeated multiple higher-seeded teams. So when comparing career stats, Cronin falls short on that metric.
I am neither anti Huggins or Cronin. But if we are in a thread about going down memory lane with the Bearcats than the clarification is in order. The 5-2 record is also a little slanted since it includes those horrendous teams that arguably Huggins caused.
Odd...since both of Cronin's wins were in the 2nd 2 meetings in his DI tenure.....you would think steady improvment would have placed those wins towards the end of the series between the 2 teams.
And some would argue that Dr. Zimpher caused those horrendous teams, as Huggins wanted to remain at UC despite the efforts to oust him.
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Huggs goes for Win 800
