I was really hoping Pitt would hold on to him.



http://www.lsusports.net/ViewArticle.dbm...=211358090

Of course, it probably makes the path easier for VT, but I was hoping for some epic games...

Tough loss for Pitt

Those idiots at State got rid of Canada. That Doeren is one smart coach.

One thing is for sure....if Coach O fails at LSU it will not be because he didn't have two of the top coordinators in the country coaching under him.

Coach O is a moron. I can't believe LSU made him HC, and I can't believe that both coordinators were willing to go in with him. You almost have to wonder whether both were promised an opportunity to be promoted if the the Ogre fails...

(12-14-2016 04:17 PM)miko33 Wrote:  Coach O is a moron. I can't believe LSU made him HC, and I can't believe that both coordinators were willing to go in with him. You almost have to wonder whether both were promised an opportunity to be promoted if the the Ogre fails...

Yeah, the grapes were sour anyway...

(12-14-2016 02:54 PM)XLance Wrote:  Those idiots at State got rid of Canada. That Doeren is one smart coach.

In part because he was in a constant state of applying for other jobs all over the country.

(12-14-2016 03:32 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  One thing is for sure....if Coach O fails at LSU it will not be because he didn't have two of the top coordinators in the country coaching under him.

...or sat in the richest per capita recruiting territory in the country....

(12-14-2016 04:19 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(12-14-2016 04:17 PM)miko33 Wrote:  Coach O is a moron. I can't believe LSU made him HC, and I can't believe that both coordinators were willing to go in with him. You almost have to wonder whether both were promised an opportunity to be promoted if the the Ogre fails...

Yeah, the grapes were sour anyway...

Not a thing all. I wish Canada stayed at Pitt, and I don't begrudge him taking a higher profile job. But Orgeron is not a good coach. His track record is mediocre at best since Ole Miss. And his stint at Ole Miss was terrible.

I'm disappointed but I wish Canada luck at LSU.

We're hearing news that our AD, Barnes, may be headed to Oregon State. I think that's a pretty unfortunate loss for us too and due to past experience with a terrible AD, I'm concerned.

I think Narduzzi will have every opportunity to get his man to be OC so I'm somewhat less concerned about Canada.

(12-14-2016 10:03 PM)ndlutz Wrote:  I'm disappointed but I wish Canada luck at LSU.

We're hearing news that our AD, Barnes, may be headed to Oregon State. I think that's a pretty unfortunate loss for us too and due to past experience with a terrible AD, I'm concerned.

I think Narduzzi will have every opportunity to get his man to be OC so I'm somewhat less concerned about Canada.

It seems like Pitt loses folks every time they have a good season. No way to run a P5 program - you need some continuity.

Supposedly he is now the highest paid OC in the country. Pitt offered a salary in the 7 figure range to stay. If a competitor offered me a raise that big, I would take it.

(12-15-2016 07:07 AM)Shannon Panther Wrote:  Supposedly he is now the highest paid OC in the country. Pitt offered a salary in the 7 figure range to stay. If a competitor offered me a raise that big, I would take it.

OK, that IS an extenuating circumstance - thanks, Panther!

Pitt offered $1.0 mil/year and LSU went to $1.33 mil/year. They tried, but I'm glad they didn't get stupid with it and went to the $1 mil + range for a coordinator.

I can't fault Pitt in this. Narduzzi has brought both his OCs in from P5 programs - Chaney from Arkansas and Canada from NC State. He chose well to replace Chaney, of course, when he brought Canada in.

Pitt tried to keep Canada by making him an offer that would have made him the highest paid OC in the ACC. Can't say they didn't try. They just don't have a dumptruck of money to pay to him like LSU. That's life in college athletics. LSU just happens to be one of those schools that gets what they want.

I also like Narduzzi's philosophy of bringing in the best he can get. I've worked with people whose attitude on hiring revolved around whether or not the new hire would leave. I think that's a losing attitude. You want to work with the best. Some will leave, but that's life. I'd rather have the best for a short time than put up with mediocrity for the long haul.

Now, we have to hope Narduzzi will go out and get the best. I don't see any indication that he won't, or won't be able to do that.

Canada went to LSU and they offered him three years/$1.3 million per.

Pitt then countered at $1 million guaranteed over two years plus the title of assistant head coach. That would have made Canada the highest paid OC in the ACC.

Determined not to lose out on their man yet again (they were telling recruits that Kiffin was a done deal) LSU upped its offer to $1.8 million per year guaranteed over three years.

He had no choice but to take that offer and I don't blame him one bit. However, neither do I blame Pittsburgh. They made a very competitive offer and they just don't have an unlimited budget like LSU or a handful of other teams. Word is had he not taken the LSU job, Alabama was going to offer him their OC job. We just can't compete with schools like that.

Make no mistake about it, this is definitely a big loss for the University of Pittsburgh. However, this is how it goes in college football these days. If you're successful you're going to lose guys. As long as Pitt is making competitive offers to retain its best guys, I can live with things like this. What I can't live with are parallel moves or worse. If Canada were to leave us to take the OC job at Purdue or Iowa State, or even Iowa or Oklahoma State, that's a different conversation. However, when an LSU or an Alabama comes sniffing around, you are going to lose your guy far more often than not.

LSU now has the highest paid offensive and defensive coordinators in the country while Orgeron, uh, makes Tigers football great again?

(12-15-2016 09:57 PM)Dr. Isaly von Yinzer Wrote:  Canada went to LSU and they offered him three years/$1.3 million per.

Pitt then countered at $1 million guaranteed over two years plus the title of assistant head coach. That would have made Canada the highest paid OC in the ACC.

Determined not to lose out on their man yet again (they were telling recruits that Kiffin was a done deal) LSU upped its offer to $1.8 million per year guaranteed over three years.

He had no choice but to take that offer and I don't blame him one bit. However, neither do I blame Pittsburgh. They made a very competitive offer and they just don't have an unlimited budget like LSU or a handful of other teams. Word is had he not taken the LSU job, Alabama was going to offer him their OC job. We just can't compete with schools like that.

Make no mistake about it, this is definitely a big loss for the University of Pittsburgh. However, this is how it goes in college football these days. If you're successful you're going to lose guys. As long as Pitt is making competitive offers to retain its best guys, I can live with things like this. What I can't live with are parallel moves or worse. If Canada were to leave us to take the OC job at Purdue or Iowa State, or even Iowa or Oklahoma State, that's a different conversation. However, when an LSU or an Alabama comes sniffing around, you are going to lose your guy far more often than not.

LSU now has the highest paid offensive and defensive coordinators in the country while Orgeron, uh, makes Tigers football great again?

I think you're doing a disservice to Pitt calling Purdue and Iowa State parallel moves.

(12-15-2016 11:01 PM)ChrisLords Wrote:  

(12-15-2016 09:57 PM)Dr. Isaly von Yinzer Wrote:  Canada went to LSU and they offered him three years/$1.3 million per.

Pitt then countered at $1 million guaranteed over two years plus the title of assistant head coach. That would have made Canada the highest paid OC in the ACC.

Determined not to lose out on their man yet again (they were telling recruits that Kiffin was a done deal) LSU upped its offer to $1.8 million per year guaranteed over three years.

He had no choice but to take that offer and I don't blame him one bit. However, neither do I blame Pittsburgh. They made a very competitive offer and they just don't have an unlimited budget like LSU or a handful of other teams. Word is had he not taken the LSU job, Alabama was going to offer him their OC job. We just can't compete with schools like that.

Make no mistake about it, this is definitely a big loss for the University of Pittsburgh. However, this is how it goes in college football these days. If you're successful you're going to lose guys. As long as Pitt is making competitive offers to retain its best guys, I can live with things like this. What I can't live with are parallel moves or worse. If Canada were to leave us to take the OC job at Purdue or Iowa State, or even Iowa or Oklahoma State, that's a different conversation. However, when an LSU or an Alabama comes sniffing around, you are going to lose your guy far more often than not.

LSU now has the highest paid offensive and defensive coordinators in the country while Orgeron, uh, makes Tigers football great again?

I think you're doing a disservice to Pitt calling Purdue and Iowa State parallel moves.

+1
VT reminds me of Oklahoma State. Great Facilities, harder recruiting, name brand and always solid with a chance to be great.

(12-15-2016 11:01 PM)ChrisLords Wrote:  

(12-15-2016 09:57 PM)Dr. Isaly von Yinzer Wrote:  Canada went to LSU and they offered him three years/$1.3 million per.

Pitt then countered at $1 million guaranteed over two years plus the title of assistant head coach. That would have made Canada the highest paid OC in the ACC.

Determined not to lose out on their man yet again (they were telling recruits that Kiffin was a done deal) LSU upped its offer to $1.8 million per year guaranteed over three years.

He had no choice but to take that offer and I don't blame him one bit. However, neither do I blame Pittsburgh. They made a very competitive offer and they just don't have an unlimited budget like LSU or a handful of other teams. Word is had he not taken the LSU job, Alabama was going to offer him their OC job. We just can't compete with schools like that.

Make no mistake about it, this is definitely a big loss for the University of Pittsburgh. However, this is how it goes in college football these days. If you're successful you're going to lose guys. As long as Pitt is making competitive offers to retain its best guys, I can live with things like this. What I can't live with are parallel moves or worse. If Canada were to leave us to take the OC job at Purdue or Iowa State, or even Iowa or Oklahoma State, that's a different conversation. However, when an LSU or an Alabama comes sniffing around, you are going to lose your guy far more often than not.

LSU now has the highest paid offensive and defensive coordinators in the country while Orgeron, uh, makes Tigers football great again?

I think you're doing a disservice to Pitt calling Purdue and Iowa State parallel moves.

I just meant that there is a group of 10–15 programs that have way more money than everyone else. We all know who they are. The rest of us are all in the relatively same financial boat.