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Crack FBI anti-Clinton team sat on e-mails to release at worst possible time.
An Outline of What Increasingly Exhibits the Hallmarks of an Election Conspiracy

Unlike the effect of Russian interference on the 2016 presidential campaign, the effect—in votes—of the now-infamous “Comey Letter” is knowable.

While various media outlets downplayed the effect at the time, the hard data is unmistakable: according to a Politico/Morning Consult poll taken immediately after FBI Director Comey’s end-of-October announcement that the FBI would be reviewing additional evidence in the Clinton email-server case, one-third of likely voters reported that the revelation made them “much less likely” to vote for Clinton.

In an election Clinton lost by just 77,143 combined votes in three states—out of well over 136 million votes cast—this sort of polling data is one indication that Comey’s announcement could have cost Clinton millions of votes nationwide. But looking inside the Politico/Morning Consult data, we find much more evidence for that conclusion: specifically, the fact that while 26% of the poll’s 33% figure comes from Trump voters, the remaining 7% comes from those reporting to be Clinton voters.

Seven percent of the total electorate on November 8th was just under ten million voters (around 9,550,000 voters, to be exact).

Divided by state using voter distribution data, that’s an estimated (ceteris paribus) 206,100 voters in Wisconsin, where Trump won by less than 23,000 votes; 332,500 voters in Michigan, where Trump won by less than 11,000 votes; and 423,600 voters in Pennsylvania, where Trump won by less than 45,000 votes.

If even the smallest fraction of these “much less likely” Clinton voters were telling pollsters the truth about their intentions approximately a week before the election, their changed votes (or even their decision to abstain from voting) was more than enough to cost Clinton the election.

In Wisconsin, only an estimated 11.2% of newly disgruntled Clinton voters needed to be telling the truth about their new view of Clinton for their lost votes to have swung the state; in Michigan, that figure is 3.3%; in Pennsylvania, 10.6%. Professional pollsters can tell you what percentage of their data is reliable a week out from a general election—and it’s a much higher percentage than that. (And note that all of these figures measure the effect of a would-be Clinton voter deciding not to vote due to the Comey Letter; any prospective Clinton voters who voted for Trump instead of Clinton because of the reopening of the FBI investigation into Clinton’s email server of course count, if we reverse their decision, as a vote lost for Trump and one gained for Clinton. So the percentages above are likely high—indeed, as much as double the appropriate figures.)

Even accounting for a significantly uneven state-by-state distribution of newly disgruntled Clinton voters after Comey’s October Surprise—not that we’d expect one; there were clearly more voters on the fence and “still convincible” in Midwestern swing states in the days before the election than elsewhere—it would still be the case that that seemingly minute 7% figure was in fact more than enough to swing an election Trump won by 0.7% or less in the three states that ultimately decided the contest. And this fact remains even if we eliminate those Election-Day voters who became aware of (and were consequentially swayed by) the second, exculpatory letter Comey issued just prior to November 8th.

So it’s clear the Comey Letter was more than enough—as a matter of math—to put Trump in the White House.

So what we do if (as now seems possible) it turns out that the brouhaha over the “Abedin emails” less than two weeks before the presidential election was the result of collusion between FBI investigators trying to prosecute the husband of Hillary Clinton’s closest aide, FBI investigators trying to prosecute Clinton herself (and prevented from doing so because of decisions made by their boss), and one of Trump’s closest confidants and (until four days ago) a shoo-in to join his Cabinet, Rudy Giuliani?

What should the electors of the Electoral College do on December 19th if it’s confirmed, in the coming 72 hours, that Clinton lost the White House because of a scandal so much more far-reaching than Watergate as to make that impeachment-level conspiracy pale in comparison?

Obviously, before we get there, we have to look at the facts.

The purpose of this article is to detail facts that have already been reported—but not properly connected—in the major media, and to then use these facts to issue a rational and reasoned call for further investigation of this matter prior to the Electoral College vote this coming Monday.

So here’s a recap of the bare minimum facts that suggest a bigger-than-Watergate scandal having turned the tide in the 2016 election:

On October 3rd of this year, just over five weeks before the presidential election, Federal Bureau of Investigation agents received a computer from Anthony Weiner and almost immediately determined that the computer contained emails by a person at the heart of the then-closed investigation into Hillary Clinton’s home email server, that being Weiner’s ex-wife (and Clinton’s top aide) Huma Abedin.

For 24 days, these FBI agents kept their discovery a secret from their own boss, FBI Director James Comey. They only informed him of their potentially history-altering discovery on October 27th, less than two weeks before the general election.

Even today, nobody knows why these agents kept their critical discovery secret from the one man with the power to immediately direct them as to how to proceed with what they’d found.

The result of the agents’ decision not to inform their superior of information that he and only he could decide what to do with was the now-infamous “Comey Letter”: that is, Director Comey felt compelled to write a letter to Congress on October 28th informing them of the potentially explosive discovery of additional emails from Abedin on a computer Abedin had previously shared with Weiner.

It was a letter that would have been sent—if it would have been sent at all—several weeks earlier, had the agents in charge of the Weiner case sent their discovery up the chain of command in a timely and professional way. And had that letter been sent weeks earlier, the infamous “second Comey letter,” in which Comey conceded that the new Abedin emails were of no legal significance, would have been written before the early voting period in most states.

In fact, numerous reports in the mainstream media have concluded that Comey’s late-October intervention in the 2016 election, while unsettling to the Clinton campaign and unusual in the extreme, would have had no impact had it come at the very beginning of the month.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bigg...62c2fddebc
12-14-2016 11:03 AM
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damn... it must be a conspiracy!

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12-14-2016 11:07 AM
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Huffpo = fake news
12-14-2016 11:10 AM
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Still blaming everything under the sun BUT their candiate I see.
12-14-2016 11:13 AM
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So the FBI and the CIA are at odds over who they want to be President? Fascinating!
12-14-2016 11:16 AM
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"Crack FBI anti-Clinton team" - where does it prove that the FBI team was anti-Clinton?

So, this FBI team and that FBI team and Rudy all colluded together to "take down Hillary"? That's your conspiracy - and you want the EC voters to change their votes for this?? Where is this collusion and planning proved??
12-14-2016 11:18 AM
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I don't think it really mattered. Those emails were released like a week before. By that point, I don't think anyone was really going to change their vote.
12-14-2016 11:23 AM
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and statisticians would say you are completely wrong Niner Nat.

She was up 10+ before the Comey letter.
12-14-2016 11:40 AM
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she was also up 10+ on election day... point? 07-coffee3
12-14-2016 11:43 AM
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(12-14-2016 11:40 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  and statisticians would say you are completely wrong Niner Nat.

She was up 10+ before the Comey letter.

or maybe the polls were just very, very wrong. Her lead in the polls was still substantial after the emails leaked.
12-14-2016 11:45 AM
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Wrong
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(12-14-2016 11:43 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  she was also up 10+ on election day... point? 07-coffee3

They took their QUEEN!!!!!! The precious beautiful QUEEN for them!!!!!
12-14-2016 11:47 AM
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Hahaha. Desperation.

It's over. Turn out the lights.
12-14-2016 11:50 AM
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(12-14-2016 11:47 AM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  
(12-14-2016 11:43 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  she was also up 10+ on election day... point? 07-coffee3

They took their QUEEN!!!!!! The precious beautiful QUEEN for them!!!!!

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12-14-2016 11:59 AM
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(12-14-2016 11:46 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Wrong

Face it - you backed an awful candidate, didn't care that she was a corrupt criminal - and are now looking for excuses.

Kind of like getting drunk and dragging the ugly chick back to your place, then waking up in the morning and making excuses for why you banged the ugly chick........

You are still wearing beer goggles for your queen Hillary.

Just accept she was the ugly chick and move on.04-cheers
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12-14-2016 12:14 PM
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(12-14-2016 12:14 PM)Crebman Wrote:  
(12-14-2016 11:46 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Wrong

Face it - you backed an awful candidate, didn't care that she was a corrupt criminal - and are now looking for excuses.

Kind of like getting drunk and dragging the ugly chick back to your place, then waking up in the morning and making excuses for why you banged the ugly chick........

You are still wearing beer goggles for your queen Hillary.

Just accept she was the ugly chick and move on.04-cheers

Bravo +2
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At least there was no fake news. Like the people Clinton paid to falsely claim Trump groped them days before the election (who all disappeared immediately thereafter) or the false claim by the anonymous (non-existent) 13 year old that he raped her (also disappeared before election day). It was just like the people Clinton paid to incite violence at Trump rallies and the fake mysoginist add they pretended was from a Trump company.
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And Comey went out of his way to protect Clinton throughout the investigation, so its pretty absurd to claim he was out to get her.
12-14-2016 12:53 PM
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Clinton staff destroyed the e-mails so that they would never be seen, but the timing of the release was unfair to Clinton?

Couldn't Clinton have released all the e-mails at any time of her choosing?

The release of this info was totally in Clinton's hands. This could all have been made public by her years ago.
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Maybe if Obama and Hillary hadn't put pressure on Comey to not tell the whole truth, as well as try covering up on that fateful runway meeting with Bill & Loretta, They wouldn't have been so pissed off at Her. You force a fix with a serious Lawman and You might just go down. Legally !!!!!!
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