(12-14-2016 11:04 AM)john01992 Wrote:  

(12-14-2016 10:57 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(12-14-2016 02:25 AM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  I don't think it's Kaepernick, per se....

I think its the pollution of sports with politics. Sports used to be something that could unite us and now, it seems, every fringe social justice movement is taking the spotlight.

That and today there is just too much football. I mean, there seems to be a game on every day now whether it be pro or college. Sunday NFL football used to be an event. Now it is just anouther day with a football game. Ovesaturation or greed, take your pick.

maybe they should actually try enforcing the telecommunications act that first told the NFL to play on Sunday, CFB on Saturday, and high school on Friday.

it's borderline comical how modern TV companies have basically circumvented the original ground rules for TV.

I agree. IMO, ESPN has ruined college football. I barely watch it anymore because other that 4 or 5 teams, no one else has a chance.

there is actually a telecommunications act that states that?

(12-14-2016 10:54 AM)john01992 Wrote:  what's your beef with the NFL GTS?

I think it's a combination of several things.

1) The NFL largely represents gigantic metros. For the longest time the only NFL teams in the Deep South were the Saints and Falcons. In MLB it's still JUST the Braves in the entire Deep South (Tampa is right on the borderline of being Southern). Since the pros deemed the South not worthy of their attention, college football flourished, boomed, and is now deeply entrenched in the culture.

2) The commercials. It's not March Madness on CBS bad ... but it is really bad.

3) The politics. I will turn off even a college football game if politics are being discussed in it. The only time I killed watching a CFB this year was the Eastern Michigan game where they pulled a Kaepernick stunt and not even 5 minutes into a damn midweek #MACtion game on ESPN went with the politics on air. I watched not a second more. I have enough manufactured political outrage in my life. Keep that bull**** out of my football.

4) The fans. The worst fans in CFB are typically the Wal-Mart fans with no meaningful connection to the school they root for. Even at U(sic)GA the people in the stands who actually got the diploma from Athens aren't that bad. But the inbred mouth breathers coming over from working 2nd shift at the Wal-Mart SuperCenter are intolerable. In the NFL ... these people aren't the minority. They're the bread and butter. How many videos are there on YouTube of drunk tards in the stands of NFL games swinging at each other? You don't wanna take your family and kids to a game to see that or get caught up in it.

5) The rampant taxpayer profligacy. Why should billionaires pay for stadiums when local governments will stumble over each other to pay for it all from the taxpayers?

6) If you run a college athletic program to the ground in most places, the alumni will revolt and throw the bums out. If you run a NFL team into the ground you can still make a ****ton of money and keep right on doing it. See: Browns, Cleveland. Or, to make that more relevant to me ... Braves, Atlanta ... after Ted Turner sold them.

all of those points are fair.

I just figured you would at least follow the GT NFL players.

(12-14-2016 05:47 AM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  Team scores TD
Commercials so refs can spend 10 minutes reviewing it
kick PAT
Commercials
Kickoff
Commercials
Team goes 3 and out
Commercials
Next possession, guy gets wind knocked out of him
Commercials
Field Goal
Commercials
Kickoff
Commercials

Wash, rinse, repeat.

Wash, rinse, repeat, NFL profit.

(12-14-2016 11:16 AM)fsquid Wrote:  there is actually a telecommunications act that states that?

the early ground rules of TV put a lot of limits on TV like that.

for example the ABC, NBC, & CBS evening news shows were something congress forced the networks to do as a public service. in exchange for taxpayers handing over control of the airwaves they get the other 23 and a half, but for one half hour a night the they work for the taxpayers.

yet congress never expected those shows to turn into what they are now being their most profitable shows and cramming in loads of advertising into them.

Quote:After two attempts to sell the NFL's broadcasting rights were declared illegal because of antitrust concerns, NFL commissioner Pete Rozelle headed to the Hill to whip up support. In 1961, Congress passed the Sports Broadcasting Act, which exempted broadcasting rights by major sports leagues from antitrust decisions and cleared the way for the NFL to sell a broadcasting package to CBS, where all teams share the rights equally.

However, the law is more famous for helping to set the NFL broadcasting schedule. To protect fans of college and high school football, Congress also approved language that barred professional games on Fridays and Saturdays during the schools' seasons. The NFL still stays away from those days outside of rare exceptions, like when Christmas falls on a Friday.

(12-14-2016 11:36 AM)john01992 Wrote:  all of those points are fair.

I just figured you would at least follow the GT NFL players.

Georgia Tech has a weekly athletics TV program where they tell you that kind of stuff.

(12-14-2016 09:59 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  Isn't it interesting that the same people who want actors and actresses to shut up about their political leanings expect football players to show their patriotism on national television before their games?

Oh the hypocrisy.

You have to be thick as mud to make this comment.

Nobody is asking football players to "show their patriotism" they are being asked to stand for the national anthem. At hockey games I stand for the US and Canadian anthems... It's not that I am a Canadian patriot, I am just not some self absorbed child who wants to make every moment about my feelings.

So asking actors and actresses to "shut up and entertain" is the same as asking Kaepernick to "shut up and play"....

It's totally consistant.

(12-14-2016 11:52 AM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  I stand for the US and Canadian anthems...

I went to a soccer game in Singapore back in the day and not only did I stand I actually tried to sing the Singapore national anthem as best I could.

#racist
#hater
#MAGA

(12-14-2016 11:25 AM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(12-14-2016 10:54 AM)john01992 Wrote:  what's your beef with the NFL GTS?

I think it's a combination of several things.

1) The NFL largely represents gigantic metros. For the longest time the only NFL teams in the Deep South were the Saints and Falcons. In MLB it's still JUST the Braves in the entire Deep South (Tampa is right on the borderline of being Southern). Since the pros deemed the South not worthy of their attention, college football flourished, boomed, and is now deeply entrenched in the culture.

2) The commercials. It's not March Madness on CBS bad ... but it is really bad.

3) The politics. I will turn off even a college football game if politics are being discussed in it. The only time I killed watching a CFB this year was the Eastern Michigan game where they pulled a Kaepernick stunt and not even 5 minutes into a damn midweek #MACtion game on ESPN went with the politics on air. I watched not a second more. I have enough manufactured political outrage in my life. Keep that bull**** out of my football.

4) The fans. The worst fans in CFB are typically the Wal-Mart fans with no meaningful connection to the school they root for. Even at U(sic)GA the people in the stands who actually got the diploma from Athens aren't that bad. But the inbred mouth breathers coming over from working 2nd shift at the Wal-Mart SuperCenter are intolerable. In the NFL ... these people aren't the minority. They're the bread and butter. How many videos are there on YouTube of drunk tards in the stands of NFL games swinging at each other? You don't wanna take your family and kids to a game to see that or get caught up in it.

5) The rampant taxpayer profligacy. Why should billionaires pay for stadiums when local governments will stumble over each other to pay for it all from the taxpayers?

6) If you run a college athletic program to the ground in most places, the alumni will revolt and throw the bums out. If you run a NFL team into the ground you can still make a ****ton of money and keep right on doing it. See: Browns, Cleveland. Or, to make that more relevant to me ... Braves, Atlanta ... after Ted Turner sold them.

I'll add one of mine....no offensive variety. If you run the read option in the NFL you are considered bold. If you don't run it in college you're extremely rigid.

It's only going to take one NFL GM with the nads to go against the NFL orthodox on offense and that franchise will run shop. The NFL is full of guys like Charlie Weis who think the NFL way is the only way to run an offense but they can never back it up once they get to the NFL ranks.