We need our band or at least part of our band at NDSU. We have the team to beat NDSU, but we need the fan support. Please JMU send them. Worry about the $$$$ later.

I have no knowledge of the subject but my guess is that tickets and not travel would be the #1 problem at the Fargodome

Could be wrong, but I believe the NCAA will mandate/assure at least a pep band has allotment of space for a road game...just like the NCAAT MBB regionals.

Once again, the NCAA does mandate hosting venues accommodate the full number requested for a band to attend. The issue is not that there's no room because of ticket demand. The issue is that no one from JMU wants to pay for them to go.

Interested to hear how far the excuses go this time. (We requested them, but NDSU had already sold the tickets needed! There wasn't enough band student interest to go! Do you know how expensive a charter flight is?)

The MRD definitely needs to be at the game and JMU needs to find the $$$ to make it happen. That would be 'key' to takeover of the FargoDome.

Lets get something straight here...band or not, we're not taking over the FargoDome.

This game is more instrumental to the future of the University than some will have us believe. North Dakota State has built one of the most unique brands in the history of the NCAA. Every college sports fan, even casual, knows the Bison. We know the FCS level is great football, but to the masses, NDSU legitimizes the division. I've told people I have gone to FCS/1-AA playoffs (and Championship) before. Youd think I was talking about D3 . Mere mention of a semifinal clash with the Bison...this one is different.

All a long way of saying JMU, as a university, NEEDS TO SHOW UP in Fargo. Eyes will be on this game. A win and we won't have to rely on Lee Fitting (who I'd argue has become one of the top 3-5 most influential people in the history of JMU athletics by his work the last few years) to carry the brand on his back.

The band is one of the easiest way for us to show up. I think 500+ fans/alumni might even look better. Either way, JMU Nation NEEDS to be represented in Fargo. We also need to be gracious to our hosts - the way NDSU is when they go into each FBS college town, in force, drink their beer, take their money and leave with a W.

This topic has been rehashed a few times, but I'm fine with it having its own thread if it gets the attention of someone at JMU.

1) tickets are a non-issue. NCAA playoff rules require that free tickets be provided to all band members.

2) the issue is travel/housing costs. It would cost $500-700 per head for a flight or a 20 hour trip by bus (which could impact those taking exams)

3) I think quite a few of us would donate funds to send band members if JMU would provide an easy way to do that on the ticket site.

4) I hope JMU will scrape together the funds to send af least Pep band group, but not optimistic based on what others have said.

Maybe JMU doing its accounting differently than every other institution on the planet will ultimately end up benefitting us here.

I would think a pep band traveling makes most sense.

Thinking optimistically, the FULL MRDs will be a much higher (travel) price tag come Jan. 6-7.

Where did they put the SDST fans on Saturday? Their school is 190 miles away, and yet the only colors I saw in the stands were yellow and green? I understand SDST is blue/yellow but I swear watching the game every shot of the crowd you only saw NDSU/Bison/green/yellow in the seats. Seems to me that NDSU packs 19,000 NDSU fans into the 19,000 seat fargodome. I mean, their seats are blue, yet the arena is a sea of yellow. Their fans show up.

(12-12-2016 09:34 AM)JMURocks Wrote:  This topic has been rehashed a few times, but I'm fine with it having its own thread if it gets the attention of someone at JMU.

1) tickets are a non-issue. NCAA playoff rules require that free tickets be provided to all band members.

2) the issue is travel/housing costs. It would cost $500-700 per head for a flight or a 20 hour trip by bus (which could impact those taking exams)

3) I think quite a few of us would donate funds to send band members if JMU would provide an easy way to do that on the ticket site.

4) I hope JMU will scrape together the funds to send af least Pep band group, but not optimistic based on what others have said.

On point 3. For sure. Has anyone checked with the ticket office or Duke Club? I could send an email but I know some of you guys have stronger relationships and could reach more influential people.

(12-12-2016 09:34 AM)JMURocks Wrote:  This topic has been rehashed a few times, but I'm fine with it having its own thread if it gets the attention of someone at JMU.

1) tickets are a non-issue. NCAA playoff rules require that free tickets be provided to all band members.

2) the issue is travel/housing costs. It would cost $500-700 per head for a flight or a 20 hour trip by bus (which could impact those taking exams)

3) I think quite a few of us would donate funds to send band members if JMU would provide an easy way to do that on the ticket site.

4) I hope JMU will scrape together the funds to send af least Pep band group, but not optimistic based on what others have said.

As covered before the NCAA mandates for the PRELIMINARY round
http://www.ncaa.org/sites/default/files/...161011.pdf (page 14)

"Should the visiting team bring its band to a preliminary-round game, band members should be provided admission at no
charge. The seating for the visiting band should be in addition to the visiting team ticket block. "

What constitutes preliminary round? Does the NCAA consider just the 1st round preliminary or all rounds up to the championship (since there is nothing after the championship). I saw a poster on their boards make an interesting argument that all rounds are preliminary except the championship because all of them are a precursor to something bigger and more important.

preliminary round just refers to all games in the playoff that aren't the championship in Frisco.

(12-12-2016 10:24 AM)CISDuke2014 Wrote:  

(12-12-2016 09:34 AM)JMURocks Wrote:  This topic has been rehashed a few times, but I'm fine with it having its own thread if it gets the attention of someone at JMU.

1) tickets are a non-issue. NCAA playoff rules require that free tickets be provided to all band members.

2) the issue is travel/housing costs. It would cost $500-700 per head for a flight or a 20 hour trip by bus (which could impact those taking exams)

3) I think quite a few of us would donate funds to send band members if JMU would provide an easy way to do that on the ticket site.

4) I hope JMU will scrape together the funds to send af least Pep band group, but not optimistic based on what others have said.

As covered before the NCAA mandates for the PRELIMINARY round
http://www.ncaa.org/sites/default/files/...161011.pdf (page 14)

"Should the visiting team bring its band to a preliminary-round game, band members should be provided admission at no
charge. The seating for the visiting band should be in addition to the visiting team ticket block. "

What constitutes preliminary round? Does the NCAA consider just the 1st round preliminary or all rounds up to the championship (since there is nothing after the championship). I saw a poster on their boards make an interesting argument that all rounds are preliminary except the championship because all of them are a precursor to something bigger and more important.

First page under definitions. Preliminary rounds: The rounds of the championship before the final or championship round.

(12-12-2016 10:34 AM)KickItToScotty Wrote:  

(12-12-2016 10:24 AM)CISDuke2014 Wrote:  

(12-12-2016 09:34 AM)JMURocks Wrote:  This topic has been rehashed a few times, but I'm fine with it having its own thread if it gets the attention of someone at JMU.

1) tickets are a non-issue. NCAA playoff rules require that free tickets be provided to all band members.

2) the issue is travel/housing costs. It would cost $500-700 per head for a flight or a 20 hour trip by bus (which could impact those taking exams)

3) I think quite a few of us would donate funds to send band members if JMU would provide an easy way to do that on the ticket site.

4) I hope JMU will scrape together the funds to send af least Pep band group, but not optimistic based on what others have said.

As covered before the NCAA mandates for the PRELIMINARY round
http://www.ncaa.org/sites/default/files/...161011.pdf (page 14)

"Should the visiting team bring its band to a preliminary-round game, band members should be provided admission at no
charge. The seating for the visiting band should be in addition to the visiting team ticket block. "

What constitutes preliminary round? Does the NCAA consider just the 1st round preliminary or all rounds up to the championship (since there is nothing after the championship). I saw a poster on their boards make an interesting argument that all rounds are preliminary except the championship because all of them are a precursor to something bigger and more important.

First page under definitions. Preliminary rounds: The rounds of the championship before the final or championship round.

And that's what I get for not reading the whole thing

(12-12-2016 09:52 AM)Deez Nuts Wrote:  Where did they put the SDST fans on Saturday? Their school is 190 miles away, and yet the only colors I saw in the stands were yellow and green? I understand SDST is blue/yellow but I swear watching the game every shot of the crowd you only saw NDSU/Bison/green/yellow in the seats. Seems to me that NDSU packs 19,000 NDSU fans into the 19,000 seat fargodome. I mean, their seats are blue, yet the arena is a sea of yellow. Their fans show up.

Visitors tickets are in section 23.

http://sidearm.sites.s3.amazonaws.com/go...df?id=1719

(12-12-2016 10:59 AM)gumby013 Wrote:  

(12-12-2016 09:52 AM)Deez Nuts Wrote:  Where did they put the SDST fans on Saturday? Their school is 190 miles away, and yet the only colors I saw in the stands were yellow and green? I understand SDST is blue/yellow but I swear watching the game every shot of the crowd you only saw NDSU/Bison/green/yellow in the seats. Seems to me that NDSU packs 19,000 NDSU fans into the 19,000 seat fargodome. I mean, their seats are blue, yet the arena is a sea of yellow. Their fans show up.

Visitors tickets are in section 23.

http://sidearm.sites.s3.amazonaws.com/go...df?id=1719

Thought the NCAA required respectable seats for visiting fans ? those are Not respectable. At one point in the past home teams had to provide some seats between the 40's on one side of the field...
either way, we'll have at least 500 there, and it will not be 500 quiet people.

(12-12-2016 10:59 AM)gumby013 Wrote:  

(12-12-2016 09:52 AM)Deez Nuts Wrote:  Where did they put the SDST fans on Saturday? Their school is 190 miles away, and yet the only colors I saw in the stands were yellow and green? I understand SDST is blue/yellow but I swear watching the game every shot of the crowd you only saw NDSU/Bison/green/yellow in the seats. Seems to me that NDSU packs 19,000 NDSU fans into the 19,000 seat fargodome. I mean, their seats are blue, yet the arena is a sea of yellow. Their fans show up.

Visitors tickets are in section 23.

http://sidearm.sites.s3.amazonaws.com/go...df?id=1719

word thanks!

(12-12-2016 11:35 AM)jmufbs Wrote:  

(12-12-2016 10:59 AM)gumby013 Wrote:  

(12-12-2016 09:52 AM)Deez Nuts Wrote:  Where did they put the SDST fans on Saturday? Their school is 190 miles away, and yet the only colors I saw in the stands were yellow and green? I understand SDST is blue/yellow but I swear watching the game every shot of the crowd you only saw NDSU/Bison/green/yellow in the seats. Seems to me that NDSU packs 19,000 NDSU fans into the 19,000 seat fargodome. I mean, their seats are blue, yet the arena is a sea of yellow. Their fans show up.

Visitors tickets are in section 23.

http://sidearm.sites.s3.amazonaws.com/go...df?id=1719

Thought the NCAA required respectable seats for visiting fans ? those are Not respectable. At one point in the past home teams had to provide some seats between the 40's on one side of the field...
either way, we'll have at least 500 there, and it will not be 500 quiet people.

Pretty sure that rule was dropped (not sure why). Now it's phrased something like the "normal visitors section." We could probably shove opponents up in the corner 400's if we wanted to.

(12-12-2016 11:41 AM)JMURocks Wrote:  

(12-12-2016 11:35 AM)jmufbs Wrote:  

(12-12-2016 10:59 AM)gumby013 Wrote:  

(12-12-2016 09:52 AM)Deez Nuts Wrote:  Where did they put the SDST fans on Saturday? Their school is 190 miles away, and yet the only colors I saw in the stands were yellow and green? I understand SDST is blue/yellow but I swear watching the game every shot of the crowd you only saw NDSU/Bison/green/yellow in the seats. Seems to me that NDSU packs 19,000 NDSU fans into the 19,000 seat fargodome. I mean, their seats are blue, yet the arena is a sea of yellow. Their fans show up.

Visitors tickets are in section 23.

http://sidearm.sites.s3.amazonaws.com/go...df?id=1719

Thought the NCAA required respectable seats for visiting fans ? those are Not respectable. At one point in the past home teams had to provide some seats between the 40's on one side of the field...
either way, we'll have at least 500 there, and it will not be 500 quiet people.

Pretty sure that rule was dropped (not sure why). Now it's phrased something like the "normal visitors section." We could probably shove opponents up in the corner 400's if we wanted to.

lol that visitor section suxs. Not gonna matter though. Dukes will rule.