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The ACC is even tougher to win in than it was when he started there. The ACC is just brutal nowadays where the 8th/9th place team is a legitimate borderline top 25 team. Running through that conference is beyond challenging. Unfortunately with winning there is losing, so good teams can lose a lot of games in that conference, like Clemson is doing this year.
01-23-2017 09:25 AM
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(01-23-2017 09:25 AM)dan10 Wrote:  The ACC is even tougher to win in than it was when he started there. The ACC is just brutal nowadays where the 8th/9th place team is a legitimate borderline top 25 team. Running through that conference is beyond challenging. Unfortunately with winning there is losing, so good teams can lose a lot of games in that conference, like Clemson is doing this year.

The conference expansions did exactly that, and effectively gave the committee's and deciding powers that "out" to exclude mids come tournament time.
01-23-2017 09:55 AM
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(01-22-2017 08:56 PM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:  Hate to say it but this might be it for Brownell.

I agree. With the escalated expectations this year, and the fact that they accomplished what they needed to in the OOC schedule. They needed to win last night. He's almost certainly looking at a 10-11 losses in conference now.

He'll land on his feet regardless. He's a good coach, with great work ethic. The ACC is unforgiving.
01-23-2017 10:15 AM
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I agree also. It makes one think - how many excellent/good/great mid major coaches thrive until they go up to the big job at a major school? Their names & numbers are legion. It doesn't mean they are great coaches. Maybe sometimes they need to appreciate what they have where they are. The "bigs" ain't for everyone.

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01-23-2017 10:24 AM
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(01-23-2017 10:15 AM)bricksnivy Wrote:  
(01-22-2017 08:56 PM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:  Hate to say it but this might be it for Brownell.

I agree. With the escalated expectations this year, and the fact that they accomplished what they needed to in the OOC schedule. They needed to win last night. He's almost certainly looking at a 10-11 losses in conference now.

He'll land on his feet regardless. He's a good coach, with great work ethic. The ACC is unforgiving.

There are a few basketball programs in the ACC that are absolute potential career killers for aspiring coaches. Off the top of my head... Clemson, Georgia Tech and even NC State are the most likely. The annual power of the top of the conference makes it nearly impossible for a coach to come in and succeed the way coaches like Brownell are used to doing. You have to annually finish in the top half which has become increasingly difficult with the additions of teams like Louisville and Notre Dame to an already devastating murderers row of Duke, Carolina, Louisville, etc.
01-23-2017 10:29 AM
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(01-23-2017 09:25 AM)dan10 Wrote:  The ACC is even tougher to win in than it was when he started there. The ACC is just brutal nowadays where the 8th/9th place team is a legitimate borderline top 25 team. Running through that conference is beyond challenging. Unfortunately with winning there is losing, so good teams can lose a lot of games in that conference, like Clemson is doing this year.

FSU is 6-1 against the top 25 this year, and Louisville with 4 top 25 wins already as well. ND is getting a lot of hype right now, and I know they're good offensively, but they only have 1 really good win (at home against L'ville). Starting tomorrow, they have 4 of 6 against top 25 opponents (3 of 4 are at home). Duke is an interesting team this year as well. Saturday's come back victory against Miami was big for them, and perhaps a vocal leader emerged in Matt Jones.

Clemson seems to be in a category with BC, Miami, NCSU, GT and WFU. Each of those teams has some upside, but they're not capable of winning consistently in the current ACC. Unfortunately, of that group, only Clemson and State seem to be trending down.
01-23-2017 10:31 AM
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Imagine if the whole conference of the ACC went .500 in conference. Just imagine how unbearable selection sunday would be
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ACC is just a different level of basketball,even the bottom level teams have talent and are capable of beating any ACC team other than the very top teams on any night. ACC could see 10 teams in the NCAA tournament and they would all be worthy of the bid-IMO.
01-23-2017 12:37 PM
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(01-23-2017 12:37 PM)jumpinmullet Wrote:  other than the very top teams on any night.

The only part of the statement that I disagree with. Pitt, Clemson and BC are the three bottom teams right now and all three have been competitive. Pitt seems to be the absolute worst, and they have very close losses to Notre Dame and Louisville, with a win over UVa. I think every road win in the ACC is quality.
01-23-2017 12:44 PM
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Disagree that NCSU is graveyard for coaches. They get to get on the big stage in the middle of the triangle. Don't forget, prior to Coach K, nobody heard of Duke basketball, and NCSU and UNC were on top.

In fact, I have an odd feeling our beloved coach may end up there.
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