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Listen to an AD with some balls
It's too bad our leaders in the 1980's, 1990's and 2000's didn't stand up for the university like this.

http://www.courier-journal.com/story/new...AAAIJIAQA=
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(12-11-2016 01:07 PM)3601 Wrote:  It's too bad our leaders in the 1980's, 1990's and 2000's didn't stand up for the university like this.

http://www.courier-journal.com/story/new...AAAIJIAQA=

I agree. Being held hostage by the City of Memphis, Liberty Bowl, and old money "basketball only" boosters was allowed because of weak, fence straddling, politically correct admins (Carpenter, Cavagnaro, Rawlings, Raines and Johnson) who were the main reason why we aren't in the P5 right now.
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(12-11-2016 01:41 PM)SandyTiger Wrote:  
(12-11-2016 01:07 PM)3601 Wrote:  It's too bad our leaders in the 1980's, 1990's and 2000's didn't stand up for the university like this.

http://www.courier-journal.com/story/new...AAAIJIAQA=

I agree. Being held hostage by the City of Memphis, Liberty Bowl, and old money "basketball only" boosters was allowed because of weak, fence straddling, politically correct admins (Carpenter, Cavagnaro, Rawlings, Raines and Johnson) who were the main reason why we aren't in the P5 right now.
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Some of you guys love nuttin but FB. We gotta throw out your answers and get people to weigh in that love all Tiger sports.
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(12-11-2016 01:41 PM)SandyTiger Wrote:  
(12-11-2016 01:07 PM)3601 Wrote:  It's too bad our leaders in the 1980's, 1990's and 2000's didn't stand up for the university like this.

http://www.courier-journal.com/story/new...AAAIJIAQA=

I agree. Being held hostage by the City of Memphis, Liberty Bowl, and old money "basketball only" boosters was allowed because of weak, fence straddling, politically correct admins (Carpenter, Cavagnaro, Rawlings, Raines and Johnson) who were the main reason why we aren't in the P5 right now.

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(12-11-2016 01:56 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  Some of you guys love nuttin but FB. We gotta throw out your answers and get people to weigh in that love all Tiger sports.

Tell me the part(s) of what I posted isn't true.
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(12-11-2016 01:41 PM)SandyTiger Wrote:  
(12-11-2016 01:07 PM)3601 Wrote:  It's too bad our leaders in the 1980's, 1990's and 2000's didn't stand up for the university like this.

http://www.courier-journal.com/story/new...AAAIJIAQA=

I agree. Being held hostage by the City of Memphis, Liberty Bowl, and old money "basketball only" boosters was allowed because of weak, fence straddling, politically correct admins (Carpenter, Cavagnaro, Rawlings, Raines and Johnson) who were the main reason why we aren't in the P5 right now.

It is fiscally IMPOSSIBLE for Tigers to operate their own OCS and get the benefits they get from LBS deal. City of Memphis covers ALL OF THE OUTLAYS of operating the stadium. Something most of the OCS crowd want to ignore. Be happy that the city does not raise fees charged to the U of M high enough to cover their operational losses.
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Actually this has been going since before Crump Stadium was built & it's been the same for every new venue built in Memphis. Build the venues for other purposes (Crump Stadium for "regional & cross-country FB games"), Memphis Memorial Stadium - so that UTK, OM & AR would play regional games there, expansion of Ellis Auditorium - to provide a venue to attract more convention business, Mid-South Coliseum to provide a large venue for concerts, UTK & OM BB, Pyramid to provide the city with a new, larger arena to attract pro BB & concerts & FedEX Forum to get NBA to make a decision for Memphis) - and what was the one consistent requirement to obtain financing for all of those facilities? A regular paying rental occupant - the University of Memphis & at least in the case of construction financing of the Pyramid, cash investment too. Our university has been the financing engine for all of these city facilities - and our university is a G5 player today in part due to this process.
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(12-11-2016 03:10 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  Actually this has been going since before Crump Stadium was built & it's been the same for every new venue built in Memphis. Build the venues for other purposes (Crump Stadium for "regional & cross-country FB games"), Memphis Memorial Stadium - so that UTK, OM & AR would play regional games there, expansion of Ellis Auditorium - to provide a venue to attract more convention business, Mid-South Coliseum to provide a large venue for concerts, UTK & OM BB, Pyramid to provide the city with a new, larger arena to attract pro BB & concerts & FedEX Forum to get NBA to make a decision for Memphis) - and what was the one consistent requirement to obtain financing for all of those facilities? A regular paying rental occupant - the University of Memphis & at least in the case of construction financing of the Pyramid, cash investment too. Our university has been the financing engine for all of these city facilities - and our university is a G5 player today in part due to this process.

Horse hockey-look who got left off list of AD's-no surprise there.

Pyramid and Forum would NOT have been built with Memphis Prez & powers OK. Probably same with LBS and Coliseum as Tigers were MAIN tenants of both.
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(12-11-2016 03:15 PM)Penny Lane Wrote:  
(12-11-2016 03:10 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  Actually this has been going since before Crump Stadium was built & it's been the same for every new venue built in Memphis. Build the venues for other purposes (Crump Stadium for "regional & cross-country FB games"), Memphis Memorial Stadium - so that UTK, OM & AR would play regional games there, expansion of Ellis Auditorium - to provide a venue to attract more convention business, Mid-South Coliseum to provide a large venue for concerts, UTK & OM BB, Pyramid to provide the city with a new, larger arena to attract pro BB & concerts & FedEX Forum to get NBA to make a decision for Memphis) - and what was the one consistent requirement to obtain financing for all of those facilities? A regular paying rental occupant - the University of Memphis & at least in the case of construction financing of the Pyramid, cash investment too. Our university has been the financing engine for all of these city facilities - and our university is a G5 player today in part due to this process.

Horse hockey-look who got left off list of AD's-no surprise there.

Pyramid and Forum would NOT have been built with Memphis Prez & powers OK. Probably same with LBS and Coliseum as Tigers were MAIN tenants of both.

Either you missed my point or I'm confused by your reply.........
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(12-11-2016 02:48 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  
(12-11-2016 01:41 PM)SandyTiger Wrote:  
(12-11-2016 01:07 PM)3601 Wrote:  It's too bad our leaders in the 1980's, 1990's and 2000's didn't stand up for the university like this.

http://www.courier-journal.com/story/new...AAAIJIAQA=

I agree. Being held hostage by the City of Memphis, Liberty Bowl, and old money "basketball only" boosters was allowed because of weak, fence straddling, politically correct admins (Carpenter, Cavagnaro, Rawlings, Raines and Johnson) who were the main reason why we aren't in the P5 right now.

It is fiscally IMPOSSIBLE for Tigers to operate their own OCS and get the benefits they get from LBS deal. City of Memphis covers ALL OF THE OUTLAYS of operating the stadium. Something most of the OCS crowd want to ignore. Be happy that the city does not raise fees charged to the U of M high enough to cover their operational losses.
Proof it is going to happen.
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(12-11-2016 02:48 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  
(12-11-2016 01:41 PM)SandyTiger Wrote:  
(12-11-2016 01:07 PM)3601 Wrote:  It's too bad our leaders in the 1980's, 1990's and 2000's didn't stand up for the university like this.

http://www.courier-journal.com/story/new...AAAIJIAQA=

I agree. Being held hostage by the City of Memphis, Liberty Bowl, and old money "basketball only" boosters was allowed because of weak, fence straddling, politically correct admins (Carpenter, Cavagnaro, Rawlings, Raines and Johnson) who were the main reason why we aren't in the P5 right now.

It is fiscally IMPOSSIBLE for Tigers to operate their own OCS and get the benefits they get from LBS deal. City of Memphis covers ALL OF THE OUTLAYS of operating the stadium. Something most of the OCS crowd want to ignore. Be happy that the city does not raise fees charged to the U of M high enough to cover their operational losses.

Not surpringly, you totally missed my point.
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(12-11-2016 03:19 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(12-11-2016 03:15 PM)Penny Lane Wrote:  
(12-11-2016 03:10 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  Actually this has been going since before Crump Stadium was built & it's been the same for every new venue built in Memphis. Build the venues for other purposes (Crump Stadium for "regional & cross-country FB games"), Memphis Memorial Stadium - so that UTK, OM & AR would play regional games there, expansion of Ellis Auditorium - to provide a venue to attract more convention business, Mid-South Coliseum to provide a large venue for concerts, UTK & OM BB, Pyramid to provide the city with a new, larger arena to attract pro BB & concerts & FedEX Forum to get NBA to make a decision for Memphis) - and what was the one consistent requirement to obtain financing for all of those facilities? A regular paying rental occupant - the University of Memphis & at least in the case of construction financing of the Pyramid, cash investment too. Our university has been the financing engine for all of these city facilities - and our university is a G5 player today in part due to this process.

Horse hockey-look who got left off list of AD's-no surprise there.

Pyramid and Forum would NOT have been built with Memphis Prez & powers OK. Probably same with LBS and Coliseum as Tigers were MAIN tenants of both.

Either you missed my point or I'm confused by your reply.........

Well I knew Mayor Hackett and he stated several times that the City was grateful to have Tigers as tenants and would work with Tiger admin in any way he could. He was all for Tigers and was thankful for our contribution in reducing operating deficit.
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(12-11-2016 01:41 PM)SandyTiger Wrote:  
(12-11-2016 01:07 PM)3601 Wrote:  It's too bad our leaders in the 1980's, 1990's and 2000's didn't stand up for the university like this.

http://www.courier-journal.com/story/new...AAAIJIAQA=

I agree. Being held hostage by the City of Memphis, Liberty Bowl, and old money "basketball only" boosters was allowed because of weak, fence straddling, politically correct admins (Carpenter, Cavagnaro, Rawlings, Raines and Johnson) who were the main reason why we aren't in the P5 right now.

Cavagnaro is the biggest joke I've ever had to deal with personally in my entire professional career. He made R.C. look brilliant, and I am in no way joking.
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They have done well.

They also hired Petrino a second time after his what should have been career ending mortar cycle accident graduate a student affair. And they kept Pitino on after he essentially soiled a restaurant by banging a tramp on a table.

And I get it...just win baby. But, quite a willful ignorance they have shown in pursuit of that...something fairly present these days.
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(12-11-2016 05:06 PM)Mimi Wrote:  They have done well.

They also hired Petrino a second time after his what should have been career ending mortar cycle accident graduate a student affair. And they kept Pitino on after he essentially soiled a restaurant by banging a tramp on a table.

And I get it...just win baby. But, quite a willful ignorance they have shown in pursuit of that...something fairly present these days.

You can have Rip and Josh. I'll take Petrino and Pitino. Sue me.
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(12-11-2016 05:06 PM)Mimi Wrote:  They have done well.

They also hired Petrino a second time after his what should have been career ending mortar cycle accident graduate a student affair. And they kept Pitino on after he essentially soiled a restaurant by banging a tramp on a table.

And I get it...just win baby. But, quite a willful ignorance they have shown in pursuit of that...something fairly present these days.

Spoken like an egghead professor. "Those who can, do; those who can't, teach."
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(12-11-2016 08:18 PM)SandyTiger Wrote:  
(12-11-2016 05:06 PM)Mimi Wrote:  They have done well.

They also hired Petrino a second time after his what should have been career ending mortar cycle accident graduate a student affair. And they kept Pitino on after he essentially soiled a restaurant by banging a tramp on a table.

And I get it...just win baby. But, quite a willful ignorance they have shown in pursuit of that...something fairly present these days.

Spoken like an egghead professor. "Those who can, do; those who can't, teach."

Please don't tell me that Mimi teaches at our alma mater.
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ouch
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What the heck would they do with that massive building if the cards didn't play there? I think this is just public posturing. But wow what a waste if it happened
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