Scott Van Pelt just did a short spiel on the AAC being the new cradle of coaches for P5 teams after Fuente last year and the three more this year. I'm on a business trip and working on an old iPad, plus my interweb skills are rusty, or I'd try to post either a link or something like that to satisfy the expected "link?" post....

But at least it's some press!

(12-09-2016 12:44 AM)former guest Wrote:  Scott Van Pelt just did a short spiel on the AAC being the new cradle of coaches for P5 teams after Fuente last year and the three more this year. I'm on a business trip and working on an old iPad, plus my interweb skills are rusty, or I'd try to post either a link or something like that to satisfy the expected "link?" post....

But at least it's some press!

How is that a call out?

(12-09-2016 12:47 AM)Penny Lane Wrote:  

(12-09-2016 12:44 AM)former guest Wrote:  Scott Van Pelt just did a short spiel on the AAC being the new cradle of coaches for P5 teams after Fuente last year and the three more this year. I'm on a business trip and working on an old iPad, plus my interweb skills are rusty, or I'd try to post either a link or something like that to satisfy the expected "link?" post....

But at least it's some press!

How is that a call out?

Maybe it's just me, but if a national sportscaster (or even sportsreader if you must...) gives your conference kudos for producing football coaches that get poached by bigger "money" conferences and advises the conference ADs to maybe bump up those buy out clauses to slow them down, I think it is being called out in a positive way. Maybe you would have preferred a title like "SportsCenter talking head mentions AAC"?

I saw it.

It was a call out because he urged AAC ADs to increase buyouts from our boosters to keep the nearly-P5 status we have knocking on that door.

It's one thing to get a Fuente, a Rhule, a Taggart to build those programs. It is much another thing to make yet another great hire once those coaches depart.

(12-09-2016 01:06 AM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  I saw it.

It was a call out because he urged AAC ADs to increase buyouts from our boosters to keep the nearly-P5 status we have knocking on that door.

It's one thing to get a Fuente, a Rhule, a Taggart to build those programs. It is much another thing to make yet another great hire once those coaches depart.

And thanks to Bowen and Rudd, we did exactly that.

(12-09-2016 01:51 AM)3rdgenerationtiger Wrote:  

(12-09-2016 01:06 AM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  I saw it.

It was a call out because he urged AAC ADs to increase buyouts from our boosters to keep the nearly-P5 status we have knocking on that door.

It's one thing to get a Fuente, a Rhule, a Taggart to build those programs. It is much another thing to make yet another great hire once those coaches depart.

And thanks to Bowen and Rudd, we did exactly that.

I think the search committee, Boosters and Dr. Rudd made a good hire with Norvell. Could be a great hire. As most posters have stated, Bowen doesn't make decisions on hires. Same search committee was used that recommended Fuente.

We did NOT have a big buyout with Norvell-$500K. Won't stop him from going anywhere. That was one of the sticking points in Kiffin-UH negotiations; UH wanted a long term contract with large buyout. Well over $1M per year for remaining contract if he were to leave. Kiffin balked.

(12-09-2016 01:04 AM)former guest Wrote:  

(12-09-2016 12:47 AM)Penny Lane Wrote:  

(12-09-2016 12:44 AM)former guest Wrote:  Scott Van Pelt just did a short spiel on the AAC being the new cradle of coaches for P5 teams after Fuente last year and the three more this year. I'm on a business trip and working on an old iPad, plus my interweb skills are rusty, or I'd try to post either a link or something like that to satisfy the expected "link?" post....

But at least it's some press!

How is that a call out?

Maybe it's just me, but if a national sportscaster (or even sportsreader if you must...) gives your conference kudos for producing football coaches that get poached by bigger "money" conferences and advises the conference ADs to maybe bump up those buy out clauses to slow them down, I think it is being called out in a positive way. Maybe you would have preferred a title like "SportsCenter talking head mentions AAC"?

I think his point is, traditionally, being "called out" has always been a negative connotation. I thought the same thing when I saw the title, but realized what you meant after reading it.

(12-09-2016 01:06 AM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  I saw it.

It was a call out because he urged AAC ADs to increase buyouts from our boosters to keep the nearly-P5 status we have knocking on that door.

It's one thing to get a Fuente, a Rhule, a Taggart to build those programs. It is much another thing to make yet another great hire once those coaches depart.

It is a stupid idea. The best coaches want to go to the top. We are not in a position to demand a high buyout and neither is Houston. It is what it is.

(12-09-2016 09:15 AM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  

(12-09-2016 01:06 AM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  I saw it.

It was a call out because he urged AAC ADs to increase buyouts from our boosters to keep the nearly-P5 status we have knocking on that door.

It's one thing to get a Fuente, a Rhule, a Taggart to build those programs. It is much another thing to make yet another great hire once those coaches depart.

It is a stupid idea. The best coaches want to go to the top. We are not in a position to demand a high buyout and neither is Houston. It is what it is.

(12-09-2016 01:06 AM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  I saw it.

It was a call out because he urged AAC ADs to increase buyouts from our boosters to keep the nearly-P5 status we have knocking on that door.

It's one thing to get a Fuente, a Rhule, a Taggart to build those programs. It is much another thing to make yet another great hire once those coaches depart.

You can get a few in a row but eventually your luck runs out...

Look at Arkansas State...They had a few very good coaches in a row and now they are back to mediocrity.

(12-09-2016 09:35 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(12-09-2016 01:06 AM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  I saw it.

It was a call out because he urged AAC ADs to increase buyouts from our boosters to keep the nearly-P5 status we have knocking on that door.

It's one thing to get a Fuente, a Rhule, a Taggart to build those programs. It is much another thing to make yet another great hire once those coaches depart.

You can get a few in a row but eventually your luck runs out...

Look at Arkansas State...They had a few very good coaches in a row and now they are back to mediocrity.

Hiring winning coaches is hard!

It's true. Tulsa basketball was like that for a while. UTK football has been opposite of that for a while.

There is an unknown element to hiring coaches. Maybe the "luck" factor. Sooner or later, your luck changes.

I'm hopeful that we can continue to make good hires. I expect there will always be a big market for up and coming assistants or G5 head coaches that want to move up.

It is what it is. The AAC is sort of the middle ground between P5 and everybody else. The power conferences may continue to take our coaches, but we will continue to snag their good assistant coaches they aren't willing to take a chance on yet.

Think he meant shout out, but in any event, thanks for posting. I missed the clip and it's always good to hear people talking about our conference.

(12-09-2016 03:53 AM)Penny Lane Wrote:  

(12-09-2016 01:51 AM)3rdgenerationtiger Wrote:  

(12-09-2016 01:06 AM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  I saw it.

It was a call out because he urged AAC ADs to increase buyouts from our boosters to keep the nearly-P5 status we have knocking on that door.

It's one thing to get a Fuente, a Rhule, a Taggart to build those programs. It is much another thing to make yet another great hire once those coaches depart.

And thanks to Bowen and Rudd, we did exactly that.

I think the search committee, Boosters and Dr. Rudd made a good hire with Norvell. Could be a great hire. As most posters have stated, Bowen doesn't make decisions on hires. Same search committee was used that recommended Fuente.

We did NOT have a big buyout with Norvell-$500K. Won't stop him from going anywhere. That was one of the sticking points in Kiffin-UH negotiations; UH wanted a long term contract with large buyout. Well over $1M per year for remaining contract if he were to leave. Kiffin balked.

Right now, a "great hire" doesn't really matter because they are gone in 2-3 years. We need larger buyouts to at least improve the school's financial situation if the coach leaves. 2.5/yr, $5mil buyout, and extend to 2020 cutting both ways. Drop it to 3.5 in 2018, 2.5 in 2019. I'm really good at spending money I don't have...trus.t me!

(12-09-2016 03:53 AM)Penny Lane Wrote:  

(12-09-2016 01:51 AM)3rdgenerationtiger Wrote:  

(12-09-2016 01:06 AM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  I saw it.

It was a call out because he urged AAC ADs to increase buyouts from our boosters to keep the nearly-P5 status we have knocking on that door.

It's one thing to get a Fuente, a Rhule, a Taggart to build those programs. It is much another thing to make yet another great hire once those coaches depart.

And thanks to Bowen and Rudd, we did exactly that.

I think the search committee, Boosters and Dr. Rudd made a good hire with Norvell. Could be a great hire. As most posters have stated, Bowen doesn't make decisions on hires. Same search committee was used that recommended Fuente.

We did NOT have a big buyout with Norvell-$500K. Won't stop him from going anywhere. That was one of the sticking points in Kiffin-UH negotiations; UH wanted a long term contract with large buyout. Well over $1M per year for remaining contract if he were to leave. Kiffin balked.

The hiring committee is the same as the paying/extension committee


Think about it

(12-09-2016 12:47 AM)Penny Lane Wrote:  

(12-09-2016 12:44 AM)former guest Wrote:  Scott Van Pelt just did a short spiel on the AAC being the new cradle of coaches for P5 teams after Fuente last year and the three more this year. I'm on a business trip and working on an old iPad, plus my interweb skills are rusty, or I'd try to post either a link or something like that to satisfy the expected "link?" post....

But at least it's some press!

How is that a call out?

It's a slap in the face! Wait...

(12-09-2016 03:53 AM)Penny Lane Wrote:  

(12-09-2016 01:51 AM)3rdgenerationtiger Wrote:  

(12-09-2016 01:06 AM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  I saw it.

It was a call out because he urged AAC ADs to increase buyouts from our boosters to keep the nearly-P5 status we have knocking on that door.

It's one thing to get a Fuente, a Rhule, a Taggart to build those programs. It is much another thing to make yet another great hire once those coaches depart.

And thanks to Bowen and Rudd, we did exactly that.

I think the search committee, Boosters and Dr. Rudd made a good hire with Norvell. Could be a great hire. As most posters have stated, Bowen doesn't make decisions on hires. Same search committee was used that recommended Fuente.

We did NOT have a big buyout with Norvell-$500K. Won't stop him from going anywhere. That was one of the sticking points in Kiffin-UH negotiations; UH wanted a long term contract with large buyout. Well over $1M per year for remaining contract if he were to leave. Kiffin balked.

Remember though, the buyouts $$$ go both ways ... Harder to get rid of a poor coach ....

(12-09-2016 12:24 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  

(12-09-2016 03:53 AM)Penny Lane Wrote:  

(12-09-2016 01:51 AM)3rdgenerationtiger Wrote:  

(12-09-2016 01:06 AM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  I saw it.

It was a call out because he urged AAC ADs to increase buyouts from our boosters to keep the nearly-P5 status we have knocking on that door.

It's one thing to get a Fuente, a Rhule, a Taggart to build those programs. It is much another thing to make yet another great hire once those coaches depart.

And thanks to Bowen and Rudd, we did exactly that.

I think the search committee, Boosters and Dr. Rudd made a good hire with Norvell. Could be a great hire. As most posters have stated, Bowen doesn't make decisions on hires. Same search committee was used that recommended Fuente.

We did NOT have a big buyout with Norvell-$500K. Won't stop him from going anywhere. That was one of the sticking points in Kiffin-UH negotiations; UH wanted a long term contract with large buyout. Well over $1M per year for remaining contract if he were to leave. Kiffin balked.

The hiring committee is the same as the paying/extension committee


Think about it

Agree. And to expound on it a little more, the search committee only finds the candidate. Then it is up to the AD, boosters, and president to make the hire.

Fortunately, the university took the candidate-finding out of the AD's hands for Fuente, and I think we've had better results than when the AD was the search committee with his"pocket list" and full control of the process.

As for the larger buyouts, it is definitely a dual edged sword.

(12-09-2016 12:06 PM)tigerjamesc Wrote:  

(12-09-2016 03:53 AM)Penny Lane Wrote:  

(12-09-2016 01:51 AM)3rdgenerationtiger Wrote:  

(12-09-2016 01:06 AM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  I saw it.

It was a call out because he urged AAC ADs to increase buyouts from our boosters to keep the nearly-P5 status we have knocking on that door.

It's one thing to get a Fuente, a Rhule, a Taggart to build those programs. It is much another thing to make yet another great hire once those coaches depart.

And thanks to Bowen and Rudd, we did exactly that.

I think the search committee, Boosters and Dr. Rudd made a good hire with Norvell. Could be a great hire. As most posters have stated, Bowen doesn't make decisions on hires. Same search committee was used that recommended Fuente.

We did NOT have a big buyout with Norvell-$500K. Won't stop him from going anywhere. That was one of the sticking points in Kiffin-UH negotiations; UH wanted a long term contract with large buyout. Well over $1M per year for remaining contract if he were to leave. Kiffin balked.

Right now, a "great hire" doesn't really matter because they are gone in 2-3 years. We need larger buyouts to at least improve the school's financial situation if the coach leaves. 2.5/yr, $5mil buyout, and extend to 2020 cutting both ways. Drop it to 3.5 in 2018, 2.5 in 2019. I'm really good at spending money I don't have...trus.t me!

Great Hires Matter. Keeps us relevant. If he goes, you want the pipeline full and momentum in your favor.

(12-09-2016 12:54 PM)DDrum1961 Wrote:  

(12-09-2016 03:53 AM)Penny Lane Wrote:  

(12-09-2016 01:51 AM)3rdgenerationtiger Wrote:  

(12-09-2016 01:06 AM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  I saw it.

It was a call out because he urged AAC ADs to increase buyouts from our boosters to keep the nearly-P5 status we have knocking on that door.

It's one thing to get a Fuente, a Rhule, a Taggart to build those programs. It is much another thing to make yet another great hire once those coaches depart.

And thanks to Bowen and Rudd, we did exactly that.

I think the search committee, Boosters and Dr. Rudd made a good hire with Norvell. Could be a great hire. As most posters have stated, Bowen doesn't make decisions on hires. Same search committee was used that recommended Fuente.

We did NOT have a big buyout with Norvell-$500K. Won't stop him from going anywhere. That was one of the sticking points in Kiffin-UH negotiations; UH wanted a long term contract with large buyout. Well over $1M per year for remaining contract if he were to leave. Kiffin balked.

Remember though, the buyouts $$$ go both ways ... Harder to get rid of a poor coach ....

Well, they can be structured however is agreed - 2 different "buyouts". You can have a $1M buyout if a coach wants to leave, and a $100k buyout if you want to fire. Depends upon who has leverage. With hot names like Fuente and Norvell, they had more leverage.