The Weather Channel is predicting:
High 60 degrees
Low 42 degrees
Rain 60% chance

(12-06-2016 01:56 PM)Terry Wrote:  The Weather Channel is predicting:
High 60 degrees
Low 42 degrees
Rain 60% chance

Who cares, I'll watch it on TV,unless I can find a good movie to watch. Maybe MOB can tell me why we play Sun Belt teams all the time. We have the 2nd best record in the Mac and we have to go to Alabama and play in a stadium that is smaller than the Glass Bowl? While 2 other MAC teams are going to play in Florida. I may have to do some hard thinking about buying season tickets for next year.

(12-06-2016 04:56 PM)FrickerRon Wrote:  

(12-06-2016 01:56 PM)Terry Wrote:  The Weather Channel is predicting:
High 60 degrees
Low 42 degrees
Rain 60% chance

Who cares, I'll watch it on TV,unless I can find a good movie to watch. Maybe MOB can tell me why we play Sun Belt teams all the time. We have the 2nd best record in the Mac and we have to go to Alabama and play in a stadium that is smaller than the Glass Bowl? While 2 other MAC teams are going to play in Florida. I may have to do some hard thinking about buying season tickets for next year.

App State is better than every other bowl opponent the MAC has with the exception of Wisconsin and Tulsa. We'd probably get whooped by Tulsa, and it's expensive to go to these places. We may have a WBB NCAA run in us, and If I was MOB I'd be allocating resources for March Madness and not on another run of the mill football season.

With that being said I think our football team is good, but 9-3 is average for us lately. App is good... don't slight the sunbelt because stAte never could hang with us. They always compete later in the year and suck OOC. FIU was 6-6 and beat us in 2010. Troy almost beat Clemson this year. USA beat SDSU and Miss State this year. Georgia Southern wrecked WMU and BG last season. Their league is closer to on par with us than we are to the AAC. CUSA is the bad conference this season...

(12-06-2016 05:11 PM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  

(12-06-2016 04:56 PM)FrickerRon Wrote:  

(12-06-2016 01:56 PM)Terry Wrote:  The Weather Channel is predicting:
High 60 degrees
Low 42 degrees
Rain 60% chance

Who cares, I'll watch it on TV,unless I can find a good movie to watch. Maybe MOB can tell me why we play Sun Belt teams all the time. We have the 2nd best record in the Mac and we have to go to Alabama and play in a stadium that is smaller than the Glass Bowl? While 2 other MAC teams are going to play in Florida. I may have to do some hard thinking about buying season tickets for next year.

App State is better than every other bowl opponent the MAC has with the exception of Wisconsin and Tulsa. We'd probably get whooped by Tulsa, and it's expensive to go to these places. We may have a WBB NCAA run in us, and If I was MOB I'd be allocating resources for March Madness and not on another run of the mill football season.

With that being said I think our football team is good, but 9-3 is average for us lately. App is good... don't slight the sunbelt because stAte never could hang with us. They always compete later in the year and suck OOC. FIU was 6-6 and beat us in 2010. Troy almost beat Clemson this year. USA beat SDSU and Miss State this year. Georgia Southern wrecked WMU and BG last season. Their league is closer to on par with us than we are to the AAC. CUSA is the bad conference this season...

I would rather go someplace warmer, too. But, App State is a good matchup for us. It will be a great game.

(12-06-2016 04:56 PM)FrickerRon Wrote:  

(12-06-2016 01:56 PM)Terry Wrote:  The Weather Channel is predicting:
High 60 degrees
Low 42 degrees
Rain 60% chance

Who cares, I'll watch it on TV,unless I can find a good movie to watch. Maybe MOB can tell me why we play Sun Belt teams all the time. We have the 2nd best record in the Mac and we have to go to Alabama and play in a stadium that is smaller than the Glass Bowl? While 2 other MAC teams are going to play in Florida. I may have to do some hard thinking about buying season tickets for next year.

2nd best record yet, 3rd best team.

People on this board love to bash the Sun Belt. I know Toledo has had success against stAte, but they seem to forget that UT was 1-2 against FIU when they were in the Belt. I looked at App St &/or Troy as being good matchups and solid tests for the Rockets. I am looking forward to the game, just booked our hotel. Go Rockets!!!

(12-06-2016 07:29 PM)Rocket A Wrote:  People on this board love to bash the Sun Belt. I know Toledo has had success against stAte, but they seem to forget that UT was 1-2 against FIU when they were in the Belt. I looked at App St &/or Troy as being good matchups and solid tests for the Rockets. I am looking forward to the game, just booked our hotel. Go Rockets!!!

Agreed. The Sun Belt is actually a decent conference with some good programs. I'd take Troy, App St, ULM and maybe GA Southern on a one and one deal anytime.

I didn't include Ark St because I need a few years off from that team

(12-06-2016 08:08 PM)Rocket_Fanatic Wrote:  

(12-06-2016 07:29 PM)Rocket A Wrote:  People on this board love to bash the Sun Belt. I know Toledo has had success against stAte, but they seem to forget that UT was 1-2 against FIU when they were in the Belt. I looked at App St &/or Troy as being good matchups and solid tests for the Rockets. I am looking forward to the game, just booked our hotel. Go Rockets!!!

Agreed. The Sun Belt is actually a decent conference with some good programs. I'd take Troy, App St, ULM and maybe GA Southern on a one and one deal anytime.

I didn't include Ark St because I need a few years off from that team

I'm assuming you mean ULL right? I can't imagine anyone would want a home and home with ULM.

(12-06-2016 08:08 PM)Rocket_Fanatic Wrote:  

(12-06-2016 07:29 PM)Rocket A Wrote:  People on this board love to bash the Sun Belt. I know Toledo has had success against stAte, but they seem to forget that UT was 1-2 against FIU when they were in the Belt. I looked at App St &/or Troy as being good matchups and solid tests for the Rockets. I am looking forward to the game, just booked our hotel. Go Rockets!!!

Agreed. The Sun Belt is actually a decent conference with some good programs. I'd take Troy, App St, ULM and maybe GA Southern on a one and one deal anytime.

I didn't include Ark St because I need a few years off from that team

Disagree. It's a misrepresentation. The complaint isn't "the Sunbelt." It's "the Sunbelt AGAIN!" If you can need a few years off a team from that conference, I'd think you'd be able to see the POV of those that would rather have other opportunities.

The idea that we wouldn't want a particular bowl because we'd get "whooped?" Hopefully the athletes we're putting on the field do not also reflect that mood.

If a bowl game isn't a championship, which this isn't and it isn't a reward, which this isn't, and it's not a celebration, which this isn't, then it's just something to make rich people richer, while risking injury and taking kids away from family. This game has no humanistic purpose for existence, it's made for tv.

All respect to the people in Montgomery but that's not a reward, a vacation spot. The game is not center of a celebration or cause even. There's no point in this location other than Raycom-ESPN-Disney marriage.

Warm and ocean is a reward, is a vacation, regardless the opponent.

Miami Beach Bowl Weather Monday 2:30 PM 12/19/16:
Hi 82 Lo 66 possible light shower .015 inch accumulation
Marlin Stadium Retractable Roof if needed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glt3cwQS_h8

(12-06-2016 05:11 PM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  

(12-06-2016 04:56 PM)FrickerRon Wrote:  

(12-06-2016 01:56 PM)Terry Wrote:  The Weather Channel is predicting:
High 60 degrees
Low 42 degrees
Rain 60% chance

Who cares, I'll watch it on TV,unless I can find a good movie to watch. Maybe MOB can tell me why we play Sun Belt teams all the time. We have the 2nd best record in the Mac and we have to go to Alabama and play in a stadium that is smaller than the Glass Bowl? While 2 other MAC teams are going to play in Florida. I may have to do some hard thinking about buying season tickets for next year.

App State is better than every other bowl opponent the MAC has with the exception of Wisconsin and Tulsa. We'd probably get whooped by Tulsa, and it's expensive to go to these places. We may have a WBB NCAA run in us, and If I was MOB I'd be allocating resources for March Madness and not on another run of the mill football season.

With that being said I think our football team is good, but 9-3 is average for us lately. App is good... don't slight the sunbelt because stAte never could hang with us. They always compete later in the year and suck OOC. FIU was 6-6 and beat us in 2010. Troy almost beat Clemson this year. USA beat SDSU and Miss State this year. Georgia Southern wrecked WMU and BG last season. Their league is closer to on par with us than we are to the AAC. CUSA is the bad conference this season...

I don't want to play a sunbelt team again. You guys go to Ala and watch the game, only cost you 1200.00 to go with the alum. it's bad enough that I have to go and watch the Men play tonight, let alone go to Ala.

(12-06-2016 10:28 PM)eastisbest Wrote:  

(12-06-2016 08:08 PM)Rocket_Fanatic Wrote:  

(12-06-2016 07:29 PM)Rocket A Wrote:  People on this board love to bash the Sun Belt. I know Toledo has had success against stAte, but they seem to forget that UT was 1-2 against FIU when they were in the Belt. I looked at App St &/or Troy as being good matchups and solid tests for the Rockets. I am looking forward to the game, just booked our hotel. Go Rockets!!!

Agreed. The Sun Belt is actually a decent conference with some good programs. I'd take Troy, App St, ULM and maybe GA Southern on a one and one deal anytime.

I didn't include Ark St because I need a few years off from that team

Disagree. It's a misrepresentation. The complaint isn't "the Sunbelt." It's "the Sunbelt AGAIN!" If you can need a few years off a team from that conference, I'd think you'd be able to see the POV of those that would rather have other opportunities.

The idea that we wouldn't want a particular bowl because we'd get "whooped?" Hopefully the athletes we're putting on the field do not also reflect that mood.

If a bowl game isn't a championship, which this isn't and it isn't a reward, which this isn't, and it's not a celebration, which this isn't, then it's just something to make rich people richer, while risking injury and taking kids away from family. This game has no humanistic purpose for existence, it's made for tv.

All respect to the people in Montgomery but that's not a reward, a vacation spot. The game is not center of a celebration or cause even. There's no point in this location other than Raycom-ESPN-Disney marriage.

Warm and ocean is a reward, is a vacation, regardless the opponent.

Bowl Games - Opponent Conference

2010 - Sunbelt
2011 - MWC
2012 - MWC
2014 - Sunbelt
2015 - American
2016 - Sunbelt

Seems like a pretty good mix to me.

(12-07-2016 12:18 PM)FrickerRon Wrote:  I don't want to play a sunbelt team again. You guys go to Ala and watch the game, only cost you 1200.00 to go with the alum. it's bad enough that I have to go and watch the Men play tonight, let alone go to Ala.

No one is forcing you to go to the game tonight. Stay home. No one will miss you.

(12-06-2016 01:56 PM)Terry Wrote:  The Weather Channel is predicting:
High 60 degrees
Low 42 degrees
Rain 60% chance

I think that just made my decision about heading down there for the game and some golf. Sunny and 65 is ok, rain and 60 degrees - not for me.

Montgomery, Alabama

Saturday 12-17-16
AM:
High 66
Chance of Precipitation 35%
Period of Rain 0 hrs
Chance of Thunderstorms 24%
Wind 14 mph SSE Gusts 25 mph
PM:
High 54
Chance of Precipitation 61%
Period of Rain 1.5 hrs
Chance of Thunderstorms 20%
Wind 13 mph WSW Gusts 24 mph

WIND SHIFT!

I love it when the wind blows all my snow to the neighbors' and there's a BIG fence up-wind.

(12-06-2016 05:11 PM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  Their league is closer to on par with us than we are to the AAC. CUSA is the bad conference this season...

It is interesting to see how people view our conference and team when it comes bowl season. When it comes to the P5, most pundits and fan bases to want to concentrate on the best conference for the year when it comes to bowl games and who is deserving of ranking and bowl game opponents etc. Conference strength can be useful no doubt, but also dangerous as well. Due to overall conference strength of the AAC, many were ready to hand Navy the NY6 game over WMU. That was insane and was further proven in their loss to Army yesterday. There is no doubt that the AAC has some great P5 teams of late, but I think the P5 conference teams always need to be looked at closely as individuals as well.

I would argue that, over the past decade, there has been great parity between the the top teams in the G5 conferences, even as these conferences have changed somewhat in their membership. Here is my reasoning...

• We can nitpick over each G5 conference's strength each year, and the Sun Belt is going to take it on the chin...sorry guys, and the AAC has built up the darling conference of late. I'll give credit where credit is due.
• There have also been some very bad G5 teams each year in each conference.
• There have been a couple very exceptional teams over this time period that have been a cut above the the typical G5 powerhouses. Boise State and Houston are probably the only two I would include in this upper category. WMU would need to beat Wisc this year to be included (note that NIU was not included, and I would also not count Miami over a decade ago with Roethlisberger, I am only including teams that have proven they can compete with top 10 teams consistently).
  

If we don't concentrate on the worst teams and also throw out the exceptional Boise and Houston teams, is there really much of a difference between the top powerhouse teams in the G5 over the past decade? Excluding the Houston and Boise "cut above" teams, let's think only about the other "select" teams over the years from So Fla, Memphis, Temple, Navy, Tulsa, Cincy, ECU, NIU, Toledo, BG, WMU, Ball St, Buffalo, Miami, Kent, WKU, LaTech, Marshall, Air Force, Fresno, Nevada, Utah St, SDSU, App St, Ark St, Ga So, Troy, ULL, and perhaps a couple more that I haven't thought of.

While it was "disappointing" Toledo drew Montgomery and the Camellia Bowl, this is the result of the NCAA & ESPN/ABC putting on the majority of a bowl schedule, namely 4 of the 5 FBS games on the opening Saturday of a 41 game bowl schedule. This match-up is ALL about TV and the match up it poses for their 5:30pm Saturday window. Two strong named G5 programs that were just short of winning their conference and have exciting playmakers on both sides of the ball. They could play this game on Mars for all ESPN/NCAA cares, because the TV numbers will be decent for these schools and the schools in turn will get national exposure with minimal competition (CBSSN has the Cure Bowl, but ESPN touches MANY more households than CBSSN), no NFL/etc.

It certainly is better than the alternative, and that would be in not playing at all. Either way, I'm excited for the challenge this game will bring and think it's got the chance to be an extremely entertaining game.

Now 70 degress and only 20% chance of rain late Saturday. Should be a great day, looking forward to seeing a lot of App and Toledo fans down there, travel safely.

(12-11-2016 08:27 AM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  Montgomery, Alabama

Saturday 12-17-16
AM:
High 66
Chance of Precipitation 35%
Period of Rain 0 hrs
Chance of Thunderstorms 24%
Wind 14 mph SSE Gusts 25 mph
PM:
High 54
Chance of Precipitation 61%
Period of Rain 1.5 hrs
Chance of Thunderstorms 20%
Wind 13 mph WSW Gusts 24 mph

Update12/12/16:
Montgomery Sat 12/17/16
Day:
High 65
Cloudy and warmer.
Chance of precipitation 0%
Wind 10 mph SSE Gusts 15 mph
Night:
High 57
Cloudy and Mild. Occasional Evening Rain and Thunderstorms. Late Evening Showers.
Chance of Precipitation 43%
Chance of Thunderstorms 31%
Period of Rain 5 Hrs
Wind 10 mph S Gusts 14 mph
Chance of Thunderstorms 31%

Update 12/13/16
Day
High 73
Cloudy, becoming warmer and windier
Wind S 17 mph Gusts 31 mph
0% Precipitation

Night
High 62
Cloudy, Late night shower
SSW 9 mph Gusts 16 mph
20% Chance of Precipitation'
Duration of rain .5 Hrs