(12-06-2016 12:20 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(12-06-2016 12:04 PM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  

(12-06-2016 11:56 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(12-06-2016 11:55 AM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  So now we should tell our oldest bowl tie in to shove it? Man the great ideas just keep rolling in.

It isn't OUR bowl tie in. Its ULL's bowl tie in.

Sorry that we impressed them...we will try to do worse next time.

Well if no one else gets a shot to impress 'them' then how is that going to work?

By the way, who is 'them'? The NO Bowl Committee?

They have to take whomever we place there. They hold few cards anymore. Just remove their 'first pick' slot and tell them if they don't like it, they're welcome to try to maintain certification. Or tell them.. The two bowls holding the top two picks....must pick the top two schools between them.

Pretty sure they've had a number of teams try to impress them. I have to ask what do you think you'd bring to N.O.?

(12-06-2016 12:51 PM)CajunAmos Wrote:  

(12-06-2016 12:20 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(12-06-2016 12:04 PM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  

(12-06-2016 11:56 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(12-06-2016 11:55 AM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  So now we should tell our oldest bowl tie in to shove it? Man the great ideas just keep rolling in.

It isn't OUR bowl tie in. Its ULL's bowl tie in.

Sorry that we impressed them...we will try to do worse next time.

Well if no one else gets a shot to impress 'them' then how is that going to work?

By the way, who is 'them'? The NO Bowl Committee?

They have to take whomever we place there. They hold few cards anymore. Just remove their 'first pick' slot and tell them if they don't like it, they're welcome to try to maintain certification. Or tell them.. The two bowls holding the top two picks....must pick the top two schools between them.

Pretty sure they've had a number of teams try to impress them. I have to ask what do you think you'd bring to N.O.?

The NO Bowl isn't listening to anyone but ULL. We didn't deserve to go there this year....but you guys didn't either. Period. No way App should have been rewarded for winning the conference with another trip to Montgomery. App should have been in that bowl.

Is a bowl slot just about rewarding an undeserving team because we're scared we can't fill a stadium? That's a 2005 era Sun Belt attitude. We've moved on. Our bowl selection process should too.

Look, effectively for every other team in the conference...there's only 4 slots. NO would take a 5-7 APR qualifying team from ULL over an 11-1 Texas State or Coastal or USA team. And that's a problem.

(12-06-2016 12:58 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(12-06-2016 12:51 PM)CajunAmos Wrote:  

(12-06-2016 12:20 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(12-06-2016 12:04 PM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  

(12-06-2016 11:56 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  It isn't OUR bowl tie in. Its ULL's bowl tie in.

Sorry that we impressed them...we will try to do worse next time.

Well if no one else gets a shot to impress 'them' then how is that going to work?

By the way, who is 'them'? The NO Bowl Committee?

They have to take whomever we place there. They hold few cards anymore. Just remove their 'first pick' slot and tell them if they don't like it, they're welcome to try to maintain certification. Or tell them.. The two bowls holding the top two picks....must pick the top two schools between them.

Pretty sure they've had a number of teams try to impress them. I have to ask what do you think you'd bring to N.O.?

The NO Bowl isn't listening to anyone but ULL. We didn't deserve to go there this year....but you guys didn't either. Period. No way App should have been rewarded for winning the conference with another trip to Montgomery. App should have been in that bowl.

Is a bowl slot just about rewarding an undeserving team because we're scared we can't fill a stadium? That's a 2005 era Sun Belt attitude. We've moved on. Our bowl selection process should too.

Look, effectively for every other team in the conference...there's only 4 slots. NO would take a 5-7 APR qualifying team from ULL over an 11-1 Texas State or Coastal or USA team. And that's a problem.

The bowl is acting as a non-profit and is about making money. What's in it for them?

(12-06-2016 12:58 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(12-06-2016 12:51 PM)CajunAmos Wrote:  

(12-06-2016 12:20 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(12-06-2016 12:04 PM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  

(12-06-2016 11:56 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  It isn't OUR bowl tie in. Its ULL's bowl tie in.

Sorry that we impressed them...we will try to do worse next time.

Well if no one else gets a shot to impress 'them' then how is that going to work?

By the way, who is 'them'? The NO Bowl Committee?

They have to take whomever we place there. They hold few cards anymore. Just remove their 'first pick' slot and tell them if they don't like it, they're welcome to try to maintain certification. Or tell them.. The two bowls holding the top two picks....must pick the top two schools between them.

Pretty sure they've had a number of teams try to impress them. I have to ask what do you think you'd bring to N.O.?

The NO Bowl isn't listening to anyone but ULL. We didn't deserve to go there this year....but you guys didn't either. Period. No way App should have been rewarded for winning the conference with another trip to Montgomery. App should have been in that bowl.

Is a bowl slot just about rewarding an undeserving team because we're scared we can't fill a stadium? That's a 2005 era Sun Belt attitude. We've moved on. Our bowl selection process should too.

Look, effectively for every other team in the conference...there's only 4 slots. NO would take a 5-7 APR qualifying team from ULL over an 11-1 Texas State or Coastal or USA team. And that's a problem.

Which way do you want it? You wanted to send our champ to play a 6-6 USM? How would that loss look?

(12-06-2016 01:06 PM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  

(12-06-2016 12:58 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(12-06-2016 12:51 PM)CajunAmos Wrote:  

(12-06-2016 12:20 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(12-06-2016 12:04 PM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  Sorry that we impressed them...we will try to do worse next time.

Well if no one else gets a shot to impress 'them' then how is that going to work?

By the way, who is 'them'? The NO Bowl Committee?

They have to take whomever we place there. They hold few cards anymore. Just remove their 'first pick' slot and tell them if they don't like it, they're welcome to try to maintain certification. Or tell them.. The two bowls holding the top two picks....must pick the top two schools between them.

Pretty sure they've had a number of teams try to impress them. I have to ask what do you think you'd bring to N.O.?

The NO Bowl isn't listening to anyone but ULL. We didn't deserve to go there this year....but you guys didn't either. Period. No way App should have been rewarded for winning the conference with another trip to Montgomery. App should have been in that bowl.

Is a bowl slot just about rewarding an undeserving team because we're scared we can't fill a stadium? That's a 2005 era Sun Belt attitude. We've moved on. Our bowl selection process should too.

Look, effectively for every other team in the conference...there's only 4 slots. NO would take a 5-7 APR qualifying team from ULL over an 11-1 Texas State or Coastal or USA team. And that's a problem.

Which way do you want it? You wanted to send our champ to play a 6-6 USM? How would that loss look?

So you think App would lose to a 6-6 USM? Your arrogance has no limits does it? What makes you think a 6-6 ULL has a better shot at beating the Golden Eagles over the 9-3 Mountaineers?

(12-06-2016 01:25 PM)StAteRedWolf Wrote:  

(12-06-2016 01:06 PM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  

(12-06-2016 12:58 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(12-06-2016 12:51 PM)CajunAmos Wrote:  

(12-06-2016 12:20 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Well if no one else gets a shot to impress 'them' then how is that going to work?

By the way, who is 'them'? The NO Bowl Committee?

They have to take whomever we place there. They hold few cards anymore. Just remove their 'first pick' slot and tell them if they don't like it, they're welcome to try to maintain certification. Or tell them.. The two bowls holding the top two picks....must pick the top two schools between them.

Pretty sure they've had a number of teams try to impress them. I have to ask what do you think you'd bring to N.O.?

The NO Bowl isn't listening to anyone but ULL. We didn't deserve to go there this year....but you guys didn't either. Period. No way App should have been rewarded for winning the conference with another trip to Montgomery. App should have been in that bowl.

Is a bowl slot just about rewarding an undeserving team because we're scared we can't fill a stadium? That's a 2005 era Sun Belt attitude. We've moved on. Our bowl selection process should too.

Look, effectively for every other team in the conference...there's only 4 slots. NO would take a 5-7 APR qualifying team from ULL over an 11-1 Texas State or Coastal or USA team. And that's a problem.

Which way do you want it? You wanted to send our champ to play a 6-6 USM? How would that loss look?

So you think App would lose to a 6-6 USM? Your arrogance has no limits does it? What makes you think a 6-6 ULL has a better shot at beating the Golden Eagles over the 9-3 Mountaineers?

I don't think that but we would most certainly lose to Toledo and if our champ would lose to a 6-6 USM, a team who beat latech, we would have our champ losing to a mid tier cusa team 2 years in a row. You think there is absolutely no chance USM could beat App? If we lose to them, so what...it's 2 mid tier 6-6 teams going at it. USM has a better chance of beating App than the Cajuns would against Toledo.

(12-06-2016 01:06 PM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  

(12-06-2016 12:58 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(12-06-2016 12:51 PM)CajunAmos Wrote:  

(12-06-2016 12:20 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(12-06-2016 12:04 PM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  Sorry that we impressed them...we will try to do worse next time.

Well if no one else gets a shot to impress 'them' then how is that going to work?

By the way, who is 'them'? The NO Bowl Committee?

They have to take whomever we place there. They hold few cards anymore. Just remove their 'first pick' slot and tell them if they don't like it, they're welcome to try to maintain certification. Or tell them.. The two bowls holding the top two picks....must pick the top two schools between them.

Pretty sure they've had a number of teams try to impress them. I have to ask what do you think you'd bring to N.O.?

The NO Bowl isn't listening to anyone but ULL. We didn't deserve to go there this year....but you guys didn't either. Period. No way App should have been rewarded for winning the conference with another trip to Montgomery. App should have been in that bowl.

Is a bowl slot just about rewarding an undeserving team because we're scared we can't fill a stadium? That's a 2005 era Sun Belt attitude. We've moved on. Our bowl selection process should too.

Look, effectively for every other team in the conference...there's only 4 slots. NO would take a 5-7 APR qualifying team from ULL over an 11-1 Texas State or Coastal or USA team. And that's a problem.

Which way do you want it? You wanted to send our champ to play a 6-6 USM? How would that loss look?

I'm fine with it. Because it preserves access to the bowls for all Belt teams.

The three bowls left for us are:

Montgomery: Small stadium with a far flung matchup. Okay. But if that's our 'reach' bowl, that's not an appropriate reward if a team wins the conference.

Orlando: Huge stadium further away than 3 other bowls. Sometimes you get to play UCF in their stadium. Ugh.

Arizona: We deserved that bowl this year, but its a crap bowl.

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Dollar General: Won't take us. Of course if we ever get an OCS, that will end - immediately. Because they can either stop discriminating against us, pay us a fortune to rent our stadium, move to another city (bye), or remain in an aging stadium that will never be upgraded and where they'll be the last tenant (The Senior Bowl will move to USA's stadium). Of course, they're fools to not see this coming. But they're pretty much snobs that don't see USA as legitimate. By the way, protecting USA might protect the DG Bowl too. Because eventually we will build that OCS. And when we do, USA - not the Sun Belt - will decide whether the DG Bowl is even allowed to rent our stadium. We are under no obligation to do so. And if this is the attitude of the DG or the Sun Belt, its actually better for us if we don't play ball.

New Orleans: Won't take anyone if ULL is available. Its a nice venue, is close, usually gives a matchup with a regional rival. There's no reason why we should be barred from it. Or that it should be the personal property of one team. Especially a team that has a combined 1 shared championship in the last 6 years, a period during which they've played in our 'first pick' bowl FIVE times. Every other team would be better off if we just told the NO Bowl "Thanks for the memories" and just found another bowl.

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FOR EVERY TEAM NOT NAMED ULL....Consider this scenario four years down the road.

1) USA has built a new 30k stadium on campus. Ladd is faltering. And USA now controls whether the DG stays at Ladd and if not, how much money they have to pay for rent. Do you think that they're going to screw USA over? Nope. Sure the Belt could get involved, but USA could just simply say...fine, put us in New Orleans instead. An OCS for USA turns the whole dynamic with the Belt bowls on its head. Without a protocol, USA would hold a ridiculous amount of power about where they, and by extension, others would bowl. More than ULL has now. And ULL, USA could probably blast you guys out of a NO Bowl you actually deserved to play in with that kind of power.

2) The conference hasn't moved to stop the BS with the NO Bowl and ULL.

3) USA goes 7-5, ULL 6-6. Three way tie at the top between Troy, App and stAte at 9-3 (Lets make stAte the CGC winner). Ok. USA goes to the DG, ULL goes to the NO, Troy goes to the Camellia, and stAte gets rewarded with a trip to fabulous Tucson as Conference chamption. And the same could be true for App too. And the same would be true for Texas State, Georgia State, Georgia Southern, or Coastal. And God help Troy in such a situation if the Camellia uses the 'too close' thought process that the DG does.

(12-06-2016 01:37 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(12-06-2016 01:06 PM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  

(12-06-2016 12:58 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(12-06-2016 12:51 PM)CajunAmos Wrote:  

(12-06-2016 12:20 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Well if no one else gets a shot to impress 'them' then how is that going to work?

By the way, who is 'them'? The NO Bowl Committee?

They have to take whomever we place there. They hold few cards anymore. Just remove their 'first pick' slot and tell them if they don't like it, they're welcome to try to maintain certification. Or tell them.. The two bowls holding the top two picks....must pick the top two schools between them.

Pretty sure they've had a number of teams try to impress them. I have to ask what do you think you'd bring to N.O.?

The NO Bowl isn't listening to anyone but ULL. We didn't deserve to go there this year....but you guys didn't either. Period. No way App should have been rewarded for winning the conference with another trip to Montgomery. App should have been in that bowl.

Is a bowl slot just about rewarding an undeserving team because we're scared we can't fill a stadium? That's a 2005 era Sun Belt attitude. We've moved on. Our bowl selection process should too.

Look, effectively for every other team in the conference...there's only 4 slots. NO would take a 5-7 APR qualifying team from ULL over an 11-1 Texas State or Coastal or USA team. And that's a problem.

Which way do you want it? You wanted to send our champ to play a 6-6 USM? How would that loss look?

I'm fine with it. Because it preserves access to the bowls for all Belt teams.

The three bowls left for us are:

Montgomery: Small stadium with a far flung matchup. Okay. But if that's our 'reach' bowl, that's not an appropriate reward if a team wins the conference.

Orlando: Huge stadium further away than 3 other bowls. Sometimes you get to play UCF in their stadium. Ugh.

Arizona: We deserved that bowl this year, but its a crap bowl.

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Dollar General: Won't take us. Of course if we ever get an OCS, that will end - immediately. Because they can either stop discriminating against us, pay us a fortune to rent our stadium, move to another city (bye), or remain in an aging stadium that will never be upgraded and where they'll be the last tenant (The Senior Bowl will move to USA's stadium). Of course, they're fools to not see this coming. But they're pretty much snobs that don't see USA as legitimate. By the way, protecting USA might protect the DG Bowl too. Because eventually we will build that OCS. And when we do, USA - not the Sun Belt - will decide whether the DG Bowl is even allowed to rent our stadium. We are under no obligation to do so. And if this is the attitude of the DG or the Sun Belt, its actually better for us if we don't play ball.

New Orleans: Won't take anyone if ULL is available. Its a nice venue, is close, usually gives a matchup with a regional rival. There's no reason why we should be barred from it. Or that it should be the personal property of one team. Especially a team that has a combined 1 shared championship in the last 6 years, a period during which they've played in our 'first pick' bowl FIVE times. Every other team would be better off if we just told the NO Bowl "Thanks for the memories" and just found another bowl.

You aren't barred from it, before we ever received our first invite we presold (committed forms with payment information) 5k over our initial allotment. Maybe some of you should suggest to your departments to do the same. Prove to them you will make them money, we got a sheet with all the possible bowl locatioms and how many tickets we would purchase to each...we had 15k sold before we were even invited. Be creative, don't wait for them to take a chance, prove to them they aren't taking a chance at all. Mobile isn't much further to New Orleans and I don't see why y'all couldn't do similar things. We just beat you to the punch. The independence wanted us badly after they received the committed ticket information on those sheets.

(12-05-2016 11:30 PM)TheRevSWT Wrote:  Seems like it worked out great:

Sun Belt rep: 6-6
CUSA rep: 6-6

If the Cajuns were 10-2 or 11-1 or something like that, I could see the problem. But it seems like this year, everything lined up perfectly.

If Laffy was 10-2 or 11-1, I would imagine they'd have been working hard to negotiate a better opponent in another bowl and would probably have succeeded.

(12-06-2016 09:08 AM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  

(12-06-2016 08:59 AM)APPrising Wrote:  If the Cajuns don't bring more fans to the NOLA bowl than their own home games, NOLA is going to be very disappointed in the turnout.

We have everytime, we have a very large alumni base in New Orleans. Top 4 highest attended and we are 4-0...I mean what are they thinking inviting us.

14,259 home attendance against rival Arkansas State when bowl eligibility was on the line...

(12-06-2016 03:15 PM)APPrising Wrote:  

(12-06-2016 09:08 AM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  

(12-06-2016 08:59 AM)APPrising Wrote:  If the Cajuns don't bring more fans to the NOLA bowl than their own home games, NOLA is going to be very disappointed in the turnout.

We have everytime, we have a very large alumni base in New Orleans. Top 4 highest attended and we are 4-0...I mean what are they thinking inviting us.

14,259 home attendance against rival Arkansas State when bowl eligibility was on the line...

Which means what? Game was also moved from 6pm to 11am on thanksgiving weekend in the heart of sportsmans paradise. We never have good attendance on thanksgiving...everyone around here hunts. Has zero to do with Nola bowl attendance.

Disappear again. You will lose to USM, so just go. Eat some boudin and speak poor french. I kid. Love yallala.

I'd like to see ULL make the DG or Camellia bowl to see if they travel outside of NOLA, they don't travel well to ULL is his point.

(12-06-2016 03:22 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  I'd like to see ULL make the DG or Camellia bowl to see if they travel outside of NOLA, they don't travel well to ULL is his point.

We would travel plenty to mobile, we do every time we play USA in football and baseball...our large alumni base in Nola would still be close to mobile. It wouldn't be Nola numbers but it would be more than anyone not named USA or Troy....and we would give Troy a run for their money. We have travelled more to New Orleans than our home attendance all 4 bowl games ...so again, what's the point?

(12-06-2016 03:22 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  I'd like to see ULL make the DG or Camellia bowl to see if they travel outside of NOLA, they don't travel well to ULL is his point.

How many App fans made the trip to Lafayette?

(12-06-2016 03:30 PM)CajunAmos Wrote:  

(12-06-2016 03:22 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  I'd like to see ULL make the DG or Camellia bowl to see if they travel outside of NOLA, they don't travel well to ULL is his point.

How many App fans made the trip to Lafayette?

I've got an idea.... lets rename it the Attendance/Participation New Orleans Bowl and make its pick....ULL or APR qualifying team. I'd rather go in the 'rotating bowl pool of orphaned bowls needing to fill a slot' than have the Belt pretend that they have a tie in with the NO Bowl. We don't. 9 of our members have a backup bowl slot behind ULL. USA couldn't have gotten a worse pick. Ark State probably wouldn't have done worse either. Its BS, and the Conference should tell the NO Bowl..ULL goes somewhere else for a while unless they win the conference or you can find another bowl partner. I'm sure there are plenty of bowls who'd like first pick and who would use it fairly.

Its Conference>Bowl Committee in my book. You appear to have the reverse motivation. App should have been in that bowl.

Don't whine in 4 years when USA has an OCS, they play selfish with their new leverage over one of our better bowl destinations to your detriment and you end up in Orlando playing UCF in their stadium after having a better season.

You know, it CAN happen to you too. Don't think that this is permanent.

(12-06-2016 03:45 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(12-06-2016 03:30 PM)CajunAmos Wrote:  

(12-06-2016 03:22 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  I'd like to see ULL make the DG or Camellia bowl to see if they travel outside of NOLA, they don't travel well to ULL is his point.

How many App fans made the trip to Lafayette?

I've got an idea.... lets rename it the Attendance/Participation New Orleans Bowl and make its pick....ULL or APR qualifying team. I'd rather go in the 'rotating bowl pool of orphaned bowls needing to fill a slot' than have the Belt pretend that they have a tie in with the NO Bowl. We don't. 9 of our members have a backup bowl slot behind ULL. USA couldn't have gotten a worse pick. Ark State probably wouldn't have done worse either. Its BS, and the Conference should tell the NO Bowl..ULL goes somewhere else for a while unless they win the conference or you can find another bowl partner. I'm sure there are plenty of bowls who'd like first pick and who would use it fairly.

Its Conference>Bowl Committee in my book. You appear to have the reverse motivation. App should have been in that bowl.

Don't whine in 4 years when USA has an OCS, they play selfish with their new leverage over one of our better bowl destinations to your detriment and you end up in Orlando playing UCF in their stadium after having a better season.

You know, it CAN happen to you too. Don't think that this is permanent.

You won't hear me whine and I'll light into any fan that does. You have no logical reasons except fur what you personally think seems fair. Every reason I've given has been actions the board why it's right for the conference. I've given real lists of reasons and all I hear back...it's not fair, it's not fair. Why does App deserve anymore than the other co-champ?or USA? Or Troy? Or Idaho? That's not fair.

(12-06-2016 03:45 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(12-06-2016 03:30 PM)CajunAmos Wrote:  

(12-06-2016 03:22 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  I'd like to see ULL make the DG or Camellia bowl to see if they travel outside of NOLA, they don't travel well to ULL is his point.

How many App fans made the trip to Lafayette?

I've got an idea.... lets rename it the Attendance/Participation New Orleans Bowl and make its pick....ULL or APR qualifying team. I'd rather go in the 'rotating bowl pool of orphaned bowls needing to fill a slot' than have the Belt pretend that they have a tie in with the NO Bowl. We don't. 9 of our members have a backup bowl slot behind ULL. USA couldn't have gotten a worse pick. Ark State probably wouldn't have done worse either. Its BS, and the Conference should tell the NO Bowl..ULL goes somewhere else for a while unless they win the conference or you can find another bowl partner. I'm sure there are plenty of bowls who'd like first pick and who would use it fairly.

Its Conference>Bowl Committee in my book. You appear to have the reverse motivation. App should have been in that bowl.

Don't whine in 4 years when USA has an OCS, they play selfish with their new leverage over one of our better bowl destinations to your detriment and you end up in Orlando playing UCF in their stadium after having a better season.

You know, it CAN happen to you too. Don't think that this is permanent.

I am a LOT more certain that there are other Conferences salivating to get access to a bowl in New Orleans than I am that the SBC has any leverage over the Bowl..

(12-06-2016 03:30 PM)CajunAmos Wrote:  

(12-06-2016 03:22 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  I'd like to see ULL make the DG or Camellia bowl to see if they travel outside of NOLA, they don't travel well to ULL is his point.

How many App fans made the trip to Lafayette?

It was a Thursday, 870 miles from campus, and not a bowl game. Parents of players were probably all that made it. How many ULL fans made the trip to Boone last year?

(12-06-2016 03:53 PM)Vobserver Wrote:  

(12-06-2016 03:45 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(12-06-2016 03:30 PM)CajunAmos Wrote:  

(12-06-2016 03:22 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  I'd like to see ULL make the DG or Camellia bowl to see if they travel outside of NOLA, they don't travel well to ULL is his point.

How many App fans made the trip to Lafayette?

I've got an idea.... lets rename it the Attendance/Participation New Orleans Bowl and make its pick....ULL or APR qualifying team. I'd rather go in the 'rotating bowl pool of orphaned bowls needing to fill a slot' than have the Belt pretend that they have a tie in with the NO Bowl. We don't. 9 of our members have a backup bowl slot behind ULL. USA couldn't have gotten a worse pick. Ark State probably wouldn't have done worse either. Its BS, and the Conference should tell the NO Bowl..ULL goes somewhere else for a while unless they win the conference or you can find another bowl partner. I'm sure there are plenty of bowls who'd like first pick and who would use it fairly.

Its Conference>Bowl Committee in my book. You appear to have the reverse motivation. App should have been in that bowl.

Don't whine in 4 years when USA has an OCS, they play selfish with their new leverage over one of our better bowl destinations to your detriment and you end up in Orlando playing UCF in their stadium after having a better season.

You know, it CAN happen to you too. Don't think that this is permanent.

I am a LOT more certain that there are other Conferences salivating to get access to a bowl in New Orleans than I am that the SBC has any leverage over the Bowl..

Guess what? For every single other of your conference 'mates'....its actually better if the NO Bowl just moves on to another conference...because we'll never see that bowl. Good riddance. Lets go get a bowl that will pick the best team. I'm sure pick number 1 out of the Sun Belt will get some attention. And if it doesn't. We're still probably bowling anyway. And I'd rather take my chances on the pool than have the second place team be rewarded with an away game at another school because our bowl lineup is setup to reward participation rather than results.

Lets have a vote on keeping the NO Bowl tie in. I see no reason for anyone other than ULL to vote to keep it. The St Petersburg Bowl would be much better....because we could all play in it.