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The American is a Power Conference
Both of the rankings below have The American ahead of Big 12, making us the 5th Power 5 Conference. But the AAC gets very little respect given our performance on the field. I've heard Mike Aresco on radio shows such as XM College Sports Nation making the case for P6, making the case for AAC football. What can the AAC do to get the credit and respect its so deserving of?

http://realtimerpi.com/college_football/...f_Men.html
http://www.colleyrankings.com/curconf.html#American
12-05-2016 01:02 PM
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(12-05-2016 01:02 PM)willhclark Wrote:  Both of the rankings below have The American ahead of Big 12, making us the 5th Power 5 Conference. But the AAC gets very little respect given our performance on the field. I've heard Mike Aresco on radio shows such as XM College Sports Nation making the case for P6, making the case for AAC football. What can the AAC do to get the credit and respect its so deserving of?

http://realtimerpi.com/college_football/...f_Men.html
http://www.colleyrankings.com/curconf.html#American

More for Aresco to sell for our next TV deal
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(12-05-2016 01:07 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  
(12-05-2016 01:02 PM)willhclark Wrote:  Both of the rankings below have The American ahead of Big 12, making us the 5th Power 5 Conference. But the AAC gets very little respect given our performance on the field. I've heard Mike Aresco on radio shows such as XM College Sports Nation making the case for P6, making the case for AAC football. What can the AAC do to get the credit and respect its so deserving of?

http://realtimerpi.com/college_football/...f_Men.html
http://www.colleyrankings.com/curconf.html#American

More for Aresco to sell for our next TV deal

Agree...but somebody has to step up and pay the price.

That didn't happen the last time despite potentially having Boise, TCU, WVU, UL and other solid P5 quality programs and huge TV markets in the old BigEast.

NBC lowballed us...and ESPN had a right to match. Talk about a "real" rigged system....smh

I am not convinced that anyone will value our rights correctly this time as well, so I don't expect a huge revenue increase. Longterm this is the AAC/G5's biggest threat.

Hope I'm wrong....
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we are worth $5-$9mil per team per year

but we wint sniff that

with 6 teams in final top 35 thats amazing
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(12-05-2016 01:02 PM)willhclark Wrote:  Both of the rankings below have The American ahead of Big 12

The first one does not.
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Better win our bowl games.
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(12-05-2016 01:31 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  we are worth $5-$9mil per team per year

but we wint sniff that

with 6 teams in final top 35 thats amazing

We won't sniff that until we fill stadiums weekly. All teams. A lot of this is about 'optics'. Bowls are about fan travel. Same thing. Fill stadiums. Viewers need to be able to catch the excitement.


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(12-05-2016 01:31 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  we are worth $5-$9mil per team per year

but we wint sniff that

with 6 teams in final top 35 thats amazing

agreed
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(12-05-2016 01:36 PM)fishpro1098 Wrote:  
(12-05-2016 01:31 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  we are worth $5-$9mil per team per year

but we wint sniff that

with 6 teams in final top 35 thats amazing

We won't sniff that until we fill stadiums weekly. All teams. A lot of this is about 'optics'. Bowls are about fan travel. Same thing. Fill stadiums. Viewers need to be able to catch the excitement.


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Uh, no you're not. Who's in the P5 is determined by the P5. That is, those granted the autonomy by the NCAA. You don't get to vote on those issues. They do.
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(12-05-2016 01:36 PM)fishpro1098 Wrote:  We won't sniff that until we fill stadiums weekly. All teams. A lot of this is about 'optics'. Bowls are about fan travel. Same thing. Fill stadiums. Viewers need to be able to catch the excitement.

A lot of P5s don't fill their stadiums weekly. The AAC has had some very good crowds.
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(12-05-2016 01:31 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  we are worth $5-$9mil per team per year

but we wint sniff that

with 6 teams in final top 35 thats amazing

I am not sure why it's so hard for some folks to understand this...

Short of a viable offer from a competitor, our rights are going to be worth what ESPN and Fox believe they are worth.

BTW...us BigEast refugees are having a strange sense of deja vu all over again. The old BigEast regularly had 3-4 teams in the Top25. We had monumental upsets in the old 'BCS' structure and much like Houston this year, if WVU, Louisville and USF wouldn't have choked we all had shots at playing in the national championship game. Unfortunately, all three of us especially UL and WVU who were so close had a close conference loss...which was a death knell to their championship chances. Despite all this success ...it wasn't enough to merit a good enough TV contract to keep the conference together. People forget that the old BE used to regularly outperform the ACC. I guess the ACC got the last laugh by stealing most of our teams....03-banghead

IMO, for our next contract we get around $4-million per team which is close to double. That sounds great on paper as huge percentage increase, but in reality it means squat in closing the gap between the AAC and the P5.
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The breakup of the Big East was orchestrated by ESPN.

The AAC being dismantled by ESPN is one thing the AAC won't have to worry about.
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(12-05-2016 02:43 PM)CyberBull Wrote:  
(12-05-2016 01:31 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  we are worth $5-$9mil per team per year

but we wint sniff that

with 6 teams in final top 35 thats amazing

I am not sure why it's so hard for some folks to understand this...

Short of a viable offer from a competitor, our rights are going to be worth what ESPN and Fox believe they are worth.

BTW...us BigEast refugees are having a strange sense of deja vu all over again. The old BigEast regularly had 3-4 teams in the Top25. We had monumental upsets in the old 'BCS' structure and much like Houston this year, if WVU, Louisville and USF wouldn't have choked we all had shots at playing in the national championship game. Unfortunately, all three of us especially UL and WVU who were so close had a close conference loss...which was a death knell to their championship chances. Despite all this success ...it wasn't enough to merit a good enough TV contract to keep the conference together. People forget that the old BE used to regularly outperform the ACC. I guess the ACC got the last laugh by stealing most of our teams....03-banghead

IMO, for our next contract we get around $4-million per team which is close to double. That sounds great on paper as huge percentage increase, but in reality it means squat in closing the gap between the AAC and the P5.

The last big East contract was not the reason for the breakup. The refusal of that contract was the problem. I happen to think we might be able to get that old big East contract, which would now be a bargain but would be huge for the conference, especially if we can get good bowl for our champ
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(12-05-2016 01:35 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  
(12-05-2016 01:02 PM)willhclark Wrote:  Both of the rankings below have The American ahead of Big 12

The first one does not.

it did when i posted it this AM. Big 12 must have gotten wind of this and changed the numbers..
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(12-05-2016 01:59 PM)PaulDel2 Wrote:  
(12-05-2016 01:36 PM)fishpro1098 Wrote:  
(12-05-2016 01:31 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  we are worth $5-$9mil per team per year

but we wint sniff that

with 6 teams in final top 35 thats amazing

We won't sniff that until we fill stadiums weekly. All teams. A lot of this is about 'optics'. Bowls are about fan travel. Same thing. Fill stadiums. Viewers need to be able to catch the excitement.


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Uh, no you're not. Who's in the P5 is determined by the P5. That is, those granted the autonomy by the NCAA. You don't get to vote on those issues. They do.

Why do you care? Your in a conference that has the worst tv deal in sports. Worry about the Bein network before you come over here.
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(12-05-2016 01:59 PM)PaulDel2 Wrote:  
(12-05-2016 01:36 PM)fishpro1098 Wrote:  
(12-05-2016 01:31 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  we are worth $5-$9mil per team per year

but we wint sniff that

with 6 teams in final top 35 thats amazing

We won't sniff that until we fill stadiums weekly. All teams. A lot of this is about 'optics'. Bowls are about fan travel. Same thing. Fill stadiums. Viewers need to be able to catch the excitement.


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Uh, no you're not. Who's in the P5 is determined by the P5. That is, those granted the autonomy by the NCAA. You don't get to vote on those issues. They do.

It is about making yourself eligible. Looking good, lifting your skirt. Get it? And the premise of my response was about getting $6-9 million, not getting a P5 invite.
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Being a power conference use to mean that you get an automatic berth to the BCS. Now with the playoffs, it doesn't matter. Only 4 conferences got invited.
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(12-05-2016 04:27 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  Being a power conference use to mean that you get an automatic berth to the BCS. Now with the playoffs, it doesn't matter. Only 4 conferences got invited.

True but the Big12 still get's their share of the pie.
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(12-05-2016 02:43 PM)CyberBull Wrote:  
(12-05-2016 01:31 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  we are worth $5-$9mil per team per year

but we wint sniff that

with 6 teams in final top 35 thats amazing

I am not sure why it's so hard for some folks to understand this...

Short of a viable offer from a competitor, our rights are going to be worth what ESPN and Fox believe they are worth.

BTW...us BigEast refugees are having a strange sense of deja vu all over again. The old BigEast regularly had 3-4 teams in the Top25. We had monumental upsets in the old 'BCS' structure and much like Houston this year, if WVU, Louisville and USF wouldn't have choked we all had shots at playing in the national championship game. Unfortunately, all three of us especially UL and WVU who were so close had a close conference loss...which was a death knell to their championship chances. Despite all this success ...it wasn't enough to merit a good enough TV contract to keep the conference together. People forget that the old BE used to regularly outperform the ACC. I guess the ACC got the last laugh by stealing most of our teams....03-banghead

IMO, for our next contract we get around $4-million per team which is close to double. That sounds great on paper as huge percentage increase, but in reality it means squat in closing the gap between the AAC and the P5.
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There is no chance the AAC gets "P" name recognition....

Your only chance is to get invited into one of the existing P's..........

If the B12 implodes it will become the P4 waaaaay before another conference steps in to replace the 5th..... A more probably scenario (if that happens) is the "blue blood" programs from the B12 (only 4 or 5 of them) will get gobbled up and the few leftovers will slide back to a G5 conference.

I could see Baylor and TCU among others on the outside looking in if that happens.

The remaining P4 will have even more money to divide up among themselves - thery are not going to share it.
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