(12-06-2016 01:09 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(12-04-2016 02:54 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  

(12-04-2016 02:31 PM)Franko Wrote:  

(12-04-2016 11:24 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  By the way you don't get a completion for interceptions. Those go as incompletions on the stat line.

So they either had two zero yard completions or one negative and one positive gain on completions of equal yardage.

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Good point, that makes more sense. Generally speaking though the CUSA offenses were much more productive. Is that indicative of the style of play or a larger number of quality skill players?

Better skill players but no one in C-USA is playing much defense either. Sun Belt does seem to have some decent defenses but there isn't anyone that can match the skill on offense that La Tech, MT and wkcc have.

Any quantitative data to back up this claim? No I don't mean head to head match-ups as both teams haven't faced the same defenses.

Plenty. From those three teams...
3rd, 6th and 22nd rated passers (and the last one missed four games). Also had the 14th and 23rd rated passers as well. C-USA had six QB's rated in the top 50. Sun Belt only had one (and that was at right at #50).

C-USA had four of the top 19 rushers in the nation and four total in the top 40. Sun Belt had two with just one in the top 20.

C-USA had the #2, #3, #6, #8, and #10 receivers in the nation based on receiving yards. If you are counting that's five of the nation's top 10 receivers. The Sun Belt didn't have a single receiver go over 1000 yards and only one in the top 50. C-USA had eight.

C-USA had nine players in the top 50 in all purpose yards including #4, #6 and #10. The Sun Belt had zero.

C-USA had four of the top 20 scorers in the nation. Zero for Sun Belt.

Any further questions?

(12-08-2016 11:36 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  

(12-06-2016 01:09 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(12-04-2016 02:54 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  

(12-04-2016 02:31 PM)Franko Wrote:  

(12-04-2016 11:24 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  By the way you don't get a completion for interceptions. Those go as incompletions on the stat line.

So they either had two zero yard completions or one negative and one positive gain on completions of equal yardage.

.
Good point, that makes more sense. Generally speaking though the CUSA offenses were much more productive. Is that indicative of the style of play or a larger number of quality skill players?

Better skill players but no one in C-USA is playing much defense either. Sun Belt does seem to have some decent defenses but there isn't anyone that can match the skill on offense that La Tech, MT and wkcc have.

Any quantitative data to back up this claim? No I don't mean head to head match-ups as both teams haven't faced the same defenses.

Plenty. From those three teams...
3rd, 6th and 22nd rated passers (and the last one missed four games). Also had the 14th and 23rd rated passers as well. C-USA had six QB's rated in the top 50. Sun Belt only had one (and that was at right at #50).

C-USA had four of the top 19 rushers in the nation and four total in the top 40. Sun Belt had two with just one in the top 20.

C-USA had the #2, #3, #6, #8, and #10 receivers in the nation based on receiving yards. If you are counting that's five of the nation's top 10 receivers. The Sun Belt didn't have a single receiver go over 1000 yards and only one in the top 50. C-USA had eight.

C-USA had nine players in the top 50 in all purpose yards including #4, #6 and #10. The Sun Belt had zero.

C-USA had four of the top 20 scorers in the nation. Zero for Sun Belt.

Any further questions?

These stats are easy to come by when CUSA has 9 teams that are ranked #90 in scoring defense or worse.

It's a little bit harder for the Sun Belt's top offensive athletes to stand out when they are going up against Top 25 scoring defenses in Appalachian State, Troy, and Arkansas State.

(12-08-2016 12:21 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  

(12-08-2016 11:36 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  

(12-06-2016 01:09 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(12-04-2016 02:54 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  

(12-04-2016 02:31 PM)Franko Wrote:  .
Good point, that makes more sense. Generally speaking though the CUSA offenses were much more productive. Is that indicative of the style of play or a larger number of quality skill players?

Better skill players but no one in C-USA is playing much defense either. Sun Belt does seem to have some decent defenses but there isn't anyone that can match the skill on offense that La Tech, MT and wkcc have.

Any quantitative data to back up this claim? No I don't mean head to head match-ups as both teams haven't faced the same defenses.

Plenty. From those three teams...
3rd, 6th and 22nd rated passers (and the last one missed four games). Also had the 14th and 23rd rated passers as well. C-USA had six QB's rated in the top 50. Sun Belt only had one (and that was at right at #50).

C-USA had four of the top 19 rushers in the nation and four total in the top 40. Sun Belt had two with just one in the top 20.

C-USA had the #2, #3, #6, #8, and #10 receivers in the nation based on receiving yards. If you are counting that's five of the nation's top 10 receivers. The Sun Belt didn't have a single receiver go over 1000 yards and only one in the top 50. C-USA had eight.

C-USA had nine players in the top 50 in all purpose yards including #4, #6 and #10. The Sun Belt had zero.

C-USA had four of the top 20 scorers in the nation. Zero for Sun Belt.

Any further questions?

These stats are easy to come by when CUSA has 9 teams that are ranked #90 in scoring defense or worse.

It's a little bit harder for the Sun Belt's top offensive athletes to stand out when they are going up against Top 25 scoring defenses in Appalachian State, Troy, and Arkansas State.

Or maybe you have better scoring defenses because of a lack of skill and playmakers. We can do this all day.

The difference is we did this against non-conference opponents too. Troy gave up over 30 points in all three of its Division I non-conference games. Ark State didn't even win a non-conference game including a I-AA loss. App State is really the only one with a legit story to tell on defense and they still go ***** slapped around by the offenses of Akron and Miami.

(12-08-2016 12:26 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  The difference is we did this against non-conference opponents too. Troy gave up over 30 points in all three of its Division I non-conference games. Ark State didn't even win a non-conference game including a I-AA loss. App State is really the only one with a legit story to tell on defense and they still go ***** slapped around by the offenses of Akron and Miami.

Sun Belt had decent OOC wins. App throttled ODU. USA beat the breaks off of #19 SDSU. USA beating Miss St. A really crappy TxSt beat MAC #2 Ohio. Troy over USM. Idaho over UNLV. Also, App won that Akron game and only gave up more then 30 points twice this year.

I mean take ODU for example.

ODU has only not scored 30 points three times in their last two years in CUSA conference games.

App allowed them to score only 7 points in two games combined.

(12-08-2016 10:04 PM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  I mean take ODU for example.

ODU has only not scored 30 points three times in their last two years in CUSA conference games.

App allowed them to score only 7 points in two games combined.

Please leave us out of this. Gracias.

(12-08-2016 12:21 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  

(12-08-2016 11:36 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  

(12-06-2016 01:09 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(12-04-2016 02:54 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  

(12-04-2016 02:31 PM)Franko Wrote:  .
Good point, that makes more sense. Generally speaking though the CUSA offenses were much more productive. Is that indicative of the style of play or a larger number of quality skill players?

Better skill players but no one in C-USA is playing much defense either. Sun Belt does seem to have some decent defenses but there isn't anyone that can match the skill on offense that La Tech, MT and wkcc have.

Any quantitative data to back up this claim? No I don't mean head to head match-ups as both teams haven't faced the same defenses.

Plenty. From those three teams...
3rd, 6th and 22nd rated passers (and the last one missed four games). Also had the 14th and 23rd rated passers as well. C-USA had six QB's rated in the top 50. Sun Belt only had one (and that was at right at #50).

C-USA had four of the top 19 rushers in the nation and four total in the top 40. Sun Belt had two with just one in the top 20.

C-USA had the #2, #3, #6, #8, and #10 receivers in the nation based on receiving yards. If you are counting that's five of the nation's top 10 receivers. The Sun Belt didn't have a single receiver go over 1000 yards and only one in the top 50. C-USA had eight.

C-USA had nine players in the top 50 in all purpose yards including #4, #6 and #10. The Sun Belt had zero.

C-USA had four of the top 20 scorers in the nation. Zero for Sun Belt.

Any further questions?

These stats are easy to come by when CUSA has 9 teams that are ranked #90 in scoring defense or worse.

It's a little bit harder for the Sun Belt's top offensive athletes to stand out when they are going up against Top 25 scoring defenses in Appalachian State, Troy, and Arkansas State.

Bet ya 50 bucks that WKUs offense would make any Belt teams defense look bottom 25 I guess we only have one match up in bowls to see how things match up

(12-08-2016 10:15 PM)wkuhilltopperfan Wrote:  

(12-08-2016 12:21 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  

(12-08-2016 11:36 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  

(12-06-2016 01:09 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(12-04-2016 02:54 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  Better skill players but no one in C-USA is playing much defense either. Sun Belt does seem to have some decent defenses but there isn't anyone that can match the skill on offense that La Tech, MT and wkcc have.

Any quantitative data to back up this claim? No I don't mean head to head match-ups as both teams haven't faced the same defenses.

Plenty. From those three teams...
3rd, 6th and 22nd rated passers (and the last one missed four games). Also had the 14th and 23rd rated passers as well. C-USA had six QB's rated in the top 50. Sun Belt only had one (and that was at right at #50).

C-USA had four of the top 19 rushers in the nation and four total in the top 40. Sun Belt had two with just one in the top 20.

C-USA had the #2, #3, #6, #8, and #10 receivers in the nation based on receiving yards. If you are counting that's five of the nation's top 10 receivers. The Sun Belt didn't have a single receiver go over 1000 yards and only one in the top 50. C-USA had eight.

C-USA had nine players in the top 50 in all purpose yards including #4, #6 and #10. The Sun Belt had zero.

C-USA had four of the top 20 scorers in the nation. Zero for Sun Belt.

Any further questions?

These stats are easy to come by when CUSA has 9 teams that are ranked #90 in scoring defense or worse.

It's a little bit harder for the Sun Belt's top offensive athletes to stand out when they are going up against Top 25 scoring defenses in Appalachian State, Troy, and Arkansas State.

Bet ya 50 bucks that WKUs offense would make any Belt teams defense look bottom 25 I guess we only have one match up in bowls to see how things match up

We settled this last year in the Dome. 47-28

(12-09-2016 12:15 AM)techdawg28 Wrote:  

(12-08-2016 10:15 PM)wkuhilltopperfan Wrote:  

(12-08-2016 12:21 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  

(12-08-2016 11:36 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  

(12-06-2016 01:09 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  Any quantitative data to back up this claim? No I don't mean head to head match-ups as both teams haven't faced the same defenses.

Plenty. From those three teams...
3rd, 6th and 22nd rated passers (and the last one missed four games). Also had the 14th and 23rd rated passers as well. C-USA had six QB's rated in the top 50. Sun Belt only had one (and that was at right at #50).

C-USA had four of the top 19 rushers in the nation and four total in the top 40. Sun Belt had two with just one in the top 20.

C-USA had the #2, #3, #6, #8, and #10 receivers in the nation based on receiving yards. If you are counting that's five of the nation's top 10 receivers. The Sun Belt didn't have a single receiver go over 1000 yards and only one in the top 50. C-USA had eight.

C-USA had nine players in the top 50 in all purpose yards including #4, #6 and #10. The Sun Belt had zero.

C-USA had four of the top 20 scorers in the nation. Zero for Sun Belt.

Any further questions?

These stats are easy to come by when CUSA has 9 teams that are ranked #90 in scoring defense or worse.

It's a little bit harder for the Sun Belt's top offensive athletes to stand out when they are going up against Top 25 scoring defenses in Appalachian State, Troy, and Arkansas State.

Bet ya 50 bucks that WKUs offense would make any Belt teams defense look bottom 25 I guess we only have one match up in bowls to see how things match up

We settled this last year in the Dome. 47-28

True. But I watched the Arky State vs Troy game. At least I did until I fell asleep. From boredom.

Either one of our teams would have dropped 40+ on either of those. Possibly before halftime. I watched Arky State breaking up a couple early long passes where the db was draped over the wr. Our Taylor or your Henderson would've been 5 yards past the db catching a touchdown.

You'd think they remember the bowl game last year when ya'll skulldrug their undefeated champion. The same champion that went into Appy State and beat them like stepchildren a couple weeks before.

Our bottom is probably worse than theirs but our top has been laughably better.

(12-09-2016 12:50 AM)dahbeed Wrote:  

(12-09-2016 12:15 AM)techdawg28 Wrote:  

(12-08-2016 10:15 PM)wkuhilltopperfan Wrote:  

(12-08-2016 12:21 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  

(12-08-2016 11:36 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  Plenty. From those three teams...
3rd, 6th and 22nd rated passers (and the last one missed four games). Also had the 14th and 23rd rated passers as well. C-USA had six QB's rated in the top 50. Sun Belt only had one (and that was at right at #50).

C-USA had four of the top 19 rushers in the nation and four total in the top 40. Sun Belt had two with just one in the top 20.

C-USA had the #2, #3, #6, #8, and #10 receivers in the nation based on receiving yards. If you are counting that's five of the nation's top 10 receivers. The Sun Belt didn't have a single receiver go over 1000 yards and only one in the top 50. C-USA had eight.

C-USA had nine players in the top 50 in all purpose yards including #4, #6 and #10. The Sun Belt had zero.

C-USA had four of the top 20 scorers in the nation. Zero for Sun Belt.

Any further questions?

These stats are easy to come by when CUSA has 9 teams that are ranked #90 in scoring defense or worse.

It's a little bit harder for the Sun Belt's top offensive athletes to stand out when they are going up against Top 25 scoring defenses in Appalachian State, Troy, and Arkansas State.

Bet ya 50 bucks that WKUs offense would make any Belt teams defense look bottom 25 I guess we only have one match up in bowls to see how things match up

We settled this last year in the Dome. 47-28

True. But I watched the Arky State vs Troy game. At least I did until I fell asleep. From boredom.

Either one of our teams would have dropped 40+ on either of those. Possibly before halftime. I watched Arky State breaking up a couple early long passes where the db was draped over the wr. Our Taylor or your Henderson would've been 5 yards past the db catching a touchdown.

You'd think they remember the bowl game last year when ya'll skulldrug their undefeated champion. The same champion that went into Appy State and beat them like stepchildren a couple weeks before.

Our bottom is probably worse than theirs but our top has been laughably better.

Part of me says, "Yeah, I agree with that." Another part of me says "...but UTEP beat NMSU."

(12-08-2016 10:22 AM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  

(12-06-2016 01:44 PM)EagNBran Wrote:  

(12-04-2016 03:37 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  Supposedly there was only 142 people actually there. Looked like more than that by double. Haha but the Cajuns brought 2 bus loads of folks.

That's all for an in-state rival that determines your bowl hopes?

Lol if you think that ULM is our in state rival. We are saddled with playing them because our former president made a backroom deal with then NLU's president to get them in the Sun Belt.

They're one of two FBS schools that you've played more than fifty times and I'll certainly allow that you've played Tech(87 times) more than you've played ULM(52 times), but your series with ULM is far closer(28-24 compared to 33-48-6 sgainst Tech) and you've played ULM every year since 1997 in that same time frame you've played Tech just eight times(half of which was 97-00) not to mention you're 0-8 in that stretch. To top it all off Tech wants even less fo do with you, than you do with ULM.

But...whatever you say...

If Mullens has a performance in the New Orleans Bowl like he did against La Tech, USM will win in a blow out against the ULL in that bowl game. ULL's pass defense may be even worse than ours, if that's possible.

(12-09-2016 12:50 AM)dahbeed Wrote:  Our bottom is probably worse than theirs but our top has been laughably better.

LO effing L. ODU, CUSA #3, was treated like a warm up both years when playing App. Can't wait to see the same results when App plays Marshall and UNCC in the next few years.

(12-08-2016 12:21 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  

(12-08-2016 11:36 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  

(12-06-2016 01:09 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(12-04-2016 02:54 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  

(12-04-2016 02:31 PM)Franko Wrote:  .
Good point, that makes more sense. Generally speaking though the CUSA offenses were much more productive. Is that indicative of the style of play or a larger number of quality skill players?

Better skill players but no one in C-USA is playing much defense either. Sun Belt does seem to have some decent defenses but there isn't anyone that can match the skill on offense that La Tech, MT and wkcc have.

Any quantitative data to back up this claim? No I don't mean head to head match-ups as both teams haven't faced the same defenses.

Plenty. From those three teams...
3rd, 6th and 22nd rated passers (and the last one missed four games). Also had the 14th and 23rd rated passers as well. C-USA had six QB's rated in the top 50. Sun Belt only had one (and that was at right at #50).

C-USA had four of the top 19 rushers in the nation and four total in the top 40. Sun Belt had two with just one in the top 20.

C-USA had the #2, #3, #6, #8, and #10 receivers in the nation based on receiving yards. If you are counting that's five of the nation's top 10 receivers. The Sun Belt didn't have a single receiver go over 1000 yards and only one in the top 50. C-USA had eight.

C-USA had nine players in the top 50 in all purpose yards including #4, #6 and #10. The Sun Belt had zero.

C-USA had four of the top 20 scorers in the nation. Zero for Sun Belt.

Any further questions?

These stats are easy to come by when CUSA has 9 teams that are ranked #90 in scoring defense or worse.

It's a little bit harder for the Sun Belt's top offensive athletes to stand out when they are going up against Top 25 scoring defenses in Appalachian State, Troy, and Arkansas State.

Lol, Tech broke the New Orleans bowl record with 700 yards against the undefeated Sunbelt Champs

(12-09-2016 08:09 AM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  

(12-09-2016 12:50 AM)dahbeed Wrote:  Our bottom is probably worse than theirs but our top has been laughably better.

LO effing L. ODU, CUSA #3, was treated like a warm up both years when playing App. Can't wait to see the same results when App plays Marshall and UNCC in the next few years.

Lol, Tech dominated the undefeated Sunbelt Champs in the NO Bowl (you know the same team that went into Boone and manhandled Appy)

BTW, it is a distant #3, they benefitted from the easiest CUSA schedule. Didn't play Tech or Middle and played against USM without their starting all conference QB.

(12-08-2016 10:15 PM)wkuhilltopperfan Wrote:  

(12-08-2016 12:21 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  

(12-08-2016 11:36 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  

(12-06-2016 01:09 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(12-04-2016 02:54 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  Better skill players but no one in C-USA is playing much defense either. Sun Belt does seem to have some decent defenses but there isn't anyone that can match the skill on offense that La Tech, MT and wkcc have.

Any quantitative data to back up this claim? No I don't mean head to head match-ups as both teams haven't faced the same defenses.

Plenty. From those three teams...
3rd, 6th and 22nd rated passers (and the last one missed four games). Also had the 14th and 23rd rated passers as well. C-USA had six QB's rated in the top 50. Sun Belt only had one (and that was at right at #50).

C-USA had four of the top 19 rushers in the nation and four total in the top 40. Sun Belt had two with just one in the top 20.

C-USA had the #2, #3, #6, #8, and #10 receivers in the nation based on receiving yards. If you are counting that's five of the nation's top 10 receivers. The Sun Belt didn't have a single receiver go over 1000 yards and only one in the top 50. C-USA had eight.

C-USA had nine players in the top 50 in all purpose yards including #4, #6 and #10. The Sun Belt had zero.

C-USA had four of the top 20 scorers in the nation. Zero for Sun Belt.

Any further questions?

These stats are easy to come by when CUSA has 9 teams that are ranked #90 in scoring defense or worse.

It's a little bit harder for the Sun Belt's top offensive athletes to stand out when they are going up against Top 25 scoring defenses in Appalachian State, Troy, and Arkansas State.

Bet ya 50 bucks that WKUs offense would make any Belt teams defense look bottom 25 I guess we only have one match up in bowls to see how things match up

I'd take that bet. I'd really like to see how WKU's pass attack would do against Apps #6 pass defense or Georgia State's #9 pass defense. Troy went up against both and I have to say they have great athletes on that side of the ball that can cover.

WKU managed 30 points per game in OOC play, and Alabama was really the only team with a good defense. Vanderbilt and Miami(OH) were just okay defensively. Then WKU gets into conference play and averages 52 points per game against CUSA teams... so what the heck happened?

Look, I watched the CUSA Championship... most will agree in saying that was some fundamentally terrible defense by both teams. Missed assignments and soft coverage all over the place. You won't find bad fundamental defense at the top of the SBC like that.

(12-09-2016 12:34 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  

(12-08-2016 10:15 PM)wkuhilltopperfan Wrote:  

(12-08-2016 12:21 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  

(12-08-2016 11:36 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  

(12-06-2016 01:09 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  Any quantitative data to back up this claim? No I don't mean head to head match-ups as both teams haven't faced the same defenses.

Plenty. From those three teams...
3rd, 6th and 22nd rated passers (and the last one missed four games). Also had the 14th and 23rd rated passers as well. C-USA had six QB's rated in the top 50. Sun Belt only had one (and that was at right at #50).

C-USA had four of the top 19 rushers in the nation and four total in the top 40. Sun Belt had two with just one in the top 20.

C-USA had the #2, #3, #6, #8, and #10 receivers in the nation based on receiving yards. If you are counting that's five of the nation's top 10 receivers. The Sun Belt didn't have a single receiver go over 1000 yards and only one in the top 50. C-USA had eight.

C-USA had nine players in the top 50 in all purpose yards including #4, #6 and #10. The Sun Belt had zero.

C-USA had four of the top 20 scorers in the nation. Zero for Sun Belt.

Any further questions?

These stats are easy to come by when CUSA has 9 teams that are ranked #90 in scoring defense or worse.

It's a little bit harder for the Sun Belt's top offensive athletes to stand out when they are going up against Top 25 scoring defenses in Appalachian State, Troy, and Arkansas State.

Bet ya 50 bucks that WKUs offense would make any Belt teams defense look bottom 25 I guess we only have one match up in bowls to see how things match up

I'd take that bet. I'd really like to see how WKU's pass attack would do against Apps #6 pass defense or Georgia State's #9 pass defense. Troy went up against both and I have to say they have great athletes on that side of the ball that can cover.

WKU managed 30 points per game in OOC play, and Alabama was really the only team with a good defense. Vanderbilt and Miami(OH) were just okay defensively. Then WKU gets into conference play and averages 52 points per game against CUSA teams... so what the heck happened?

Look, I watched the CUSA Championship... most will agree in saying that was some fundamentally terrible defense by both teams. Missed assignments and soft coverage all over the place. You won't find bad fundamental defense at the top of the SBC like that.

Lol, Just 700 yards in a bowl game against the undisputed top SBC team

(12-09-2016 12:34 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  

(12-08-2016 10:15 PM)wkuhilltopperfan Wrote:  

(12-08-2016 12:21 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  

(12-08-2016 11:36 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  

(12-06-2016 01:09 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  Any quantitative data to back up this claim? No I don't mean head to head match-ups as both teams haven't faced the same defenses.

Plenty. From those three teams...
3rd, 6th and 22nd rated passers (and the last one missed four games). Also had the 14th and 23rd rated passers as well. C-USA had six QB's rated in the top 50. Sun Belt only had one (and that was at right at #50).

C-USA had four of the top 19 rushers in the nation and four total in the top 40. Sun Belt had two with just one in the top 20.

C-USA had the #2, #3, #6, #8, and #10 receivers in the nation based on receiving yards. If you are counting that's five of the nation's top 10 receivers. The Sun Belt didn't have a single receiver go over 1000 yards and only one in the top 50. C-USA had eight.

C-USA had nine players in the top 50 in all purpose yards including #4, #6 and #10. The Sun Belt had zero.

C-USA had four of the top 20 scorers in the nation. Zero for Sun Belt.

Any further questions?

These stats are easy to come by when CUSA has 9 teams that are ranked #90 in scoring defense or worse.

It's a little bit harder for the Sun Belt's top offensive athletes to stand out when they are going up against Top 25 scoring defenses in Appalachian State, Troy, and Arkansas State.

Bet ya 50 bucks that WKUs offense would make any Belt teams defense look bottom 25 I guess we only have one match up in bowls to see how things match up

I'd take that bet. I'd really like to see how WKU's pass attack would do against Apps #6 pass defense or Georgia State's #9 pass defense. Troy went up against both and I have to say they have great athletes on that side of the ball that can cover.

WKU managed 30 points per game in OOC play, and Alabama was really the only team with a good defense. Vanderbilt and Miami(OH) were just okay defensively. Then WKU gets into conference play and averages 52 points per game against CUSA teams... so what the heck happened?

Look, I watched the CUSA Championship... most will agree in saying that was some fundamentally terrible defense by both teams. Missed assignments and soft coverage all over the place. You won't find bad fundamental defense at the top of the SBC like that.

WKU had a new QB and lots of new faces on this years team, it just took a while to get going. Outside of La Tech , WKU shut down everyone else until trash mins was played. I don't think everybody realizes how good La Tech offense actually is. I expect them to put some point up against Navy. Also look at WKU's run defense numbers.

(12-09-2016 01:04 PM)wkuhilltopperfan Wrote:  

(12-09-2016 12:34 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  

(12-08-2016 10:15 PM)wkuhilltopperfan Wrote:  

(12-08-2016 12:21 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  

(12-08-2016 11:36 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  Plenty. From those three teams...
3rd, 6th and 22nd rated passers (and the last one missed four games). Also had the 14th and 23rd rated passers as well. C-USA had six QB's rated in the top 50. Sun Belt only had one (and that was at right at #50).

C-USA had four of the top 19 rushers in the nation and four total in the top 40. Sun Belt had two with just one in the top 20.

C-USA had the #2, #3, #6, #8, and #10 receivers in the nation based on receiving yards. If you are counting that's five of the nation's top 10 receivers. The Sun Belt didn't have a single receiver go over 1000 yards and only one in the top 50. C-USA had eight.

C-USA had nine players in the top 50 in all purpose yards including #4, #6 and #10. The Sun Belt had zero.

C-USA had four of the top 20 scorers in the nation. Zero for Sun Belt.

Any further questions?

These stats are easy to come by when CUSA has 9 teams that are ranked #90 in scoring defense or worse.

It's a little bit harder for the Sun Belt's top offensive athletes to stand out when they are going up against Top 25 scoring defenses in Appalachian State, Troy, and Arkansas State.

Bet ya 50 bucks that WKUs offense would make any Belt teams defense look bottom 25 I guess we only have one match up in bowls to see how things match up

I'd take that bet. I'd really like to see how WKU's pass attack would do against Apps #6 pass defense or Georgia State's #9 pass defense. Troy went up against both and I have to say they have great athletes on that side of the ball that can cover.

WKU managed 30 points per game in OOC play, and Alabama was really the only team with a good defense. Vanderbilt and Miami(OH) were just okay defensively. Then WKU gets into conference play and averages 52 points per game against CUSA teams... so what the heck happened?

Look, I watched the CUSA Championship... most will agree in saying that was some fundamentally terrible defense by both teams. Missed assignments and soft coverage all over the place. You won't find bad fundamental defense at the top of the SBC like that.

WKU had a new QB and lots of new faces on this years team, it just took a while to get going. Outside of La Tech , WKU shut down everyone else until trash mins was played. I don't think everybody realizes how good La Tech offense actually is. I expect them to put some point up against Navy. Also look at WKU's run defense numbers.

MT's 605 yards of offense and 32 first downs begs to differ.

(12-09-2016 12:39 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(12-09-2016 12:34 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  

(12-08-2016 10:15 PM)wkuhilltopperfan Wrote:  

(12-08-2016 12:21 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  

(12-08-2016 11:36 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  Plenty. From those three teams...
3rd, 6th and 22nd rated passers (and the last one missed four games). Also had the 14th and 23rd rated passers as well. C-USA had six QB's rated in the top 50. Sun Belt only had one (and that was at right at #50).

C-USA had four of the top 19 rushers in the nation and four total in the top 40. Sun Belt had two with just one in the top 20.

C-USA had the #2, #3, #6, #8, and #10 receivers in the nation based on receiving yards. If you are counting that's five of the nation's top 10 receivers. The Sun Belt didn't have a single receiver go over 1000 yards and only one in the top 50. C-USA had eight.

C-USA had nine players in the top 50 in all purpose yards including #4, #6 and #10. The Sun Belt had zero.

C-USA had four of the top 20 scorers in the nation. Zero for Sun Belt.

Any further questions?

These stats are easy to come by when CUSA has 9 teams that are ranked #90 in scoring defense or worse.

It's a little bit harder for the Sun Belt's top offensive athletes to stand out when they are going up against Top 25 scoring defenses in Appalachian State, Troy, and Arkansas State.

Bet ya 50 bucks that WKUs offense would make any Belt teams defense look bottom 25 I guess we only have one match up in bowls to see how things match up

I'd take that bet. I'd really like to see how WKU's pass attack would do against Apps #6 pass defense or Georgia State's #9 pass defense. Troy went up against both and I have to say they have great athletes on that side of the ball that can cover.

WKU managed 30 points per game in OOC play, and Alabama was really the only team with a good defense. Vanderbilt and Miami(OH) were just okay defensively. Then WKU gets into conference play and averages 52 points per game against CUSA teams... so what the heck happened?

Look, I watched the CUSA Championship... most will agree in saying that was some fundamentally terrible defense by both teams. Missed assignments and soft coverage all over the place. You won't find bad fundamental defense at the top of the SBC like that.

Lol, Just 700 yards in a bowl game against the undisputed top SBC team

We're talking about this season, not last season. Arkansas State never had a defense last year.

(12-09-2016 01:17 PM)wkuyoungster Wrote:  

(12-09-2016 12:34 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  

(12-08-2016 10:15 PM)wkuhilltopperfan Wrote:  

(12-08-2016 12:21 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  

(12-08-2016 11:36 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  Plenty. From those three teams...
3rd, 6th and 22nd rated passers (and the last one missed four games). Also had the 14th and 23rd rated passers as well. C-USA had six QB's rated in the top 50. Sun Belt only had one (and that was at right at #50).

C-USA had four of the top 19 rushers in the nation and four total in the top 40. Sun Belt had two with just one in the top 20.

C-USA had the #2, #3, #6, #8, and #10 receivers in the nation based on receiving yards. If you are counting that's five of the nation's top 10 receivers. The Sun Belt didn't have a single receiver go over 1000 yards and only one in the top 50. C-USA had eight.

C-USA had nine players in the top 50 in all purpose yards including #4, #6 and #10. The Sun Belt had zero.

C-USA had four of the top 20 scorers in the nation. Zero for Sun Belt.

Any further questions?

These stats are easy to come by when CUSA has 9 teams that are ranked #90 in scoring defense or worse.

It's a little bit harder for the Sun Belt's top offensive athletes to stand out when they are going up against Top 25 scoring defenses in Appalachian State, Troy, and Arkansas State.

Bet ya 50 bucks that WKUs offense would make any Belt teams defense look bottom 25 I guess we only have one match up in bowls to see how things match up

I'd take that bet. I'd really like to see how WKU's pass attack would do against Apps #6 pass defense or Georgia State's #9 pass defense. Troy went up against both and I have to say they have great athletes on that side of the ball that can cover.

WKU managed 30 points per game in OOC play, and Alabama was really the only team with a good defense. Vanderbilt and Miami(OH) were just okay defensively. Then WKU gets into conference play and averages 52 points per game against CUSA teams... so what the heck happened?

Look, I watched the CUSA Championship... most will agree in saying that was some fundamentally terrible defense by both teams. Missed assignments and soft coverage all over the place. You won't find bad fundamental defense at the top of the SBC like that.

Wasn't Vandy 5th in the sec in points allowed? I really don't think you can compare Troy's points allowed to a sec school. Vandy gave up 22ppg and there's a really good reason Western only put 30 on the board instead 50.

A fumble at the Vandy 2. A fumble at the Vandy 40. A INT at the vandy 10. A 23 yard missed fg.

As for Miami Oh, same thing in a rain soaked game. Turnovers. INT at the Miami 48. A fumble at the Miami 18. A fumble at the Miami 7. And time ran out at the end of the half at the Miami 1

Those defenses weren't the reason Western didn't score 50 points. Nope Western was.

I watched that Troy vs ASU game. My God, the WKU receivers would have field day with that coverage. On two plays the ASU defender buries his nose (gods honest truth had his nose pressed into the chest of the receiver) into the Troy receiver and NEVER looks around. It was like he got his nose hair hung and couldn't get loose. The Western and Tech receivers would have left him on the ground as they hit another gear. Walking into the endzone.

How does a team that goes 0-4 and not even close games vs FCS and a 3-9 team win the SBC? The speed and quickness in that conference was really lacking in the skill spots this year.

No doubt in my mind WKU and Tech would be playing 2nds by the 2nd drive of the 3rd qter

I will say that Troy has slipped off some since beating App State. No one can pinpoint why. They haven't played nearly the same way they did against Clemson or App State. We're hoping to see the same team we saw during the first 3/4 of the season when we play Ohio. I'll be the first to say that Troy's QB/receivers should've had a field day against ASU's DB's.

And to answer your question in bold, ASU's coach is crap. He made the statement "Our season begins now" after the FCS loss... which is total bs because the season started long before conference play began, which is why ASU has gotten a lot of crap on the SBC board. You can't to go 0-4 in OOC, and then decide to play football afterward.

Either way, we won't get to see our top offenses/defenses matched up this year. Good luck in your bowl games.