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Rice MBB vs Texas Tech Gamethread
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(12-04-2016 01:11 AM)wiessguy Wrote: Tough game today, but I am really excited about this team
My first thought when I got back in and checked the score was "Wow! We did a great job hanging with a pretty darn good Big12 team on the road and almost won!" Also, we surpassed what I had predicted would be a "successful" defensive effort by Texas tech against us as we ended up scoring 84 points. Tech has to feel lucky they got by us. Perhaps if the game was at Tudor, we might have been given enough foul benefit to have won (or they might have gotten slightly less from the refs?)
Either way, I think where many were predicting the game as a 8-12 point loss, we held our own and showed we can play with much better teams this season. Now we need to sustain that and get us some the next few weeks. While I was not able to see/follow this actual game in real-time due to other prior commitments, I am increasingly excited as this season unfolds.
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One of the posters on the Tech message made an interesting observation saying Rice reminded him of the Billy Donovan teams at Florida in the way they played.
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(12-05-2016 11:37 PM)Tiki Owl Wrote: One of the posters on the Tech message made an interesting observation saying Rice reminded him of the Billy Donovan teams at Florida in the way they played.
Now if we can just put up back to back national championships, a lot more people will be saying that.
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12-06-2016 10:03 AM |
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I was quite disappointed that the team lost this game in the manner it did. I do not lay blame on Connor C., Evans missed dunk or the coaching, there were so many missed opportunities and errors that made a collective difference throughout the game, such as the 3 shot foul that MLE gave up by hitting the shooters elbow earlier in the game. There were many other examples of mental mistakes that in the end spelled doom on a visitor court when crunch time came. Further, Rice had no solution for Anthony Livingston. I thought that Bishop Mency would have received some minutes in a match-up with Livingston, since he seemed to play well at times on the defensive front (even though he has been an offensive liability compared to some of the Freshmen talent). Knowing the FT prowess of the players on the court, I would have thought that the team would get the ball in the hands of Marcus Jackson during the last couple of possessions. He is really the best FT shooter on the team.
This is the type of loss that can cause hangovers for a team, especially those that have such a young roster. I hope that Drone (as a senior) Jackson and Evans prove to be great leaders and make sure this is not the case.
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(12-06-2016 05:21 PM)Kayjay Wrote: I was quite disappointed that the team lost this game in the manner it did. I do not lay blame on Connor C., Evans missed dunk or the coaching, there were so many missed opportunities and errors that made a collective difference throughout the game, such as the 3 shot foul that MLE gave up by hitting the shooters elbow earlier in the game. There were many other examples of mental mistakes that in the end spelled doom on a visitor court when crunch time came. Further, Rice had no solution for Anthony Livingston. I thought that Bishop Mency would have received some minutes in a match-up with Livingston, since he seemed to play well at times on the defensive front (even though he has been an offensive liability compared to some of the Freshmen talent). Knowing the FT prowess of the players on the court, I would have thought that the team would get the ball in the hands of Marcus Jackson during the last couple of possessions. He is really the best FT shooter on the team.
This is the type of loss that can cause hangovers for a team, especially those that have such a young roster. I hope that Drone (as a senior) Jackson and Evans prove to be great leaders and make sure this is not the case.
Rice's hot shooting (15/31 on 3's) really covered up some of the mental mistakes you mentioned. Rice will not shoot that well every game. Still, I didn't feel like the mental mistakes were horrible.
As for Livingston, he is a good player (2-time All-Sunbelt 2nd teamer) and is almost 2 years older than any of the guys on the court for Rice (1.75 years older than Jackson; 1.9 years older than Koulechov). He is 3.5 years older than Douglas and 4.5 years older than Letcher-Ellis and Meyer. He seemed to put those extra years and added savvy to good use against the younger guys defending him.
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(12-06-2016 05:51 PM)mrbig Wrote: (12-06-2016 05:21 PM)Kayjay Wrote: I was quite disappointed that the team lost this game in the manner it did. I do not lay blame on Connor C., Evans missed dunk or the coaching, there were so many missed opportunities and errors that made a collective difference throughout the game, such as the 3 shot foul that MLE gave up by hitting the shooters elbow earlier in the game. There were many other examples of mental mistakes that in the end spelled doom on a visitor court when crunch time came. Further, Rice had no solution for Anthony Livingston. I thought that Bishop Mency would have received some minutes in a match-up with Livingston, since he seemed to play well at times on the defensive front (even though he has been an offensive liability compared to some of the Freshmen talent). Knowing the FT prowess of the players on the court, I would have thought that the team would get the ball in the hands of Marcus Jackson during the last couple of possessions. He is really the best FT shooter on the team.
This is the type of loss that can cause hangovers for a team, especially those that have such a young roster. I hope that Drone (as a senior) Jackson and Evans prove to be great leaders and make sure this is not the case.
Rice's hot shooting (15/31 on 3's) really covered up some of the mental mistakes you mentioned. Rice will not shoot that well every game. Still, I didn't feel like the mental mistakes were horrible.
As for Livingston, he is a good player (2-time All-Sunbelt 2nd teamer) and is almost 2 years older than any of the guys on the court for Rice (1.75 years older than Jackson; 1.9 years older than Koulechov). He is 3.5 years older than Douglas and 4.5 years older than Letcher-Ellis and Meyer. He seemed to put those extra years and added savvy to good use against the younger guys defending him.
He knew he was going to get the calls and we didn't adjust to that. Mency gives up too much size to guard him. He would've just backed him down which he was still able to do with some of our bigger guys. MLE was the best option he just has to adjust to the terrible calls. By the end you could tell he was frustrated.
It's tough to shoot that well from 3 but I'd wager we average close to 40% this year. Jackson, Evans and Egor are all at least high 30s or better I'd say over the course of a season. They shoot the majority of our 3s. What's weird is Tudor is notoriously a good shooters court but we are shooting better on the road.
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(12-06-2016 06:06 PM)cr11owl Wrote: It's tough to shoot that well from 3 but I'd wager we average close to 40% this year. Jackson, Evans and Egor are all at least high 30s or better I'd say over the course of a season.
Cashaw will be there as well, though he seems more reticent (less eager?) to take shots.
(This post was last modified: 12-06-2016 08:29 PM by mrbig.)
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(12-06-2016 08:28 PM)mrbig Wrote: (12-06-2016 06:06 PM)cr11owl Wrote: It's tough to shoot that well from 3 but I'd wager we average close to 40% this year. Jackson, Evans and Egor are all at least high 30s or better I'd say over the course of a season.
Cashaw will be there as well, though he seems more reticent (less eager?) to take shots.
He was last year too. He seems much more comfortable with a 10-15 foot shot. The percentage we shoot 3s though we should just keep jacking them up unless it's a pump fake to a wide open mid range (which Cashaw is excellent at).
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(12-06-2016 06:06 PM)cr11owl Wrote: (12-06-2016 05:51 PM)mrbig Wrote: (12-06-2016 05:21 PM)Kayjay Wrote: I was quite disappointed that the team lost this game in the manner it did. I do not lay blame on Connor C., Evans missed dunk or the coaching, there were so many missed opportunities and errors that made a collective difference throughout the game, such as the 3 shot foul that MLE gave up by hitting the shooters elbow earlier in the game. There were many other examples of mental mistakes that in the end spelled doom on a visitor court when crunch time came. Further, Rice had no solution for Anthony Livingston. I thought that Bishop Mency would have received some minutes in a match-up with Livingston, since he seemed to play well at times on the defensive front (even though he has been an offensive liability compared to some of the Freshmen talent). Knowing the FT prowess of the players on the court, I would have thought that the team would get the ball in the hands of Marcus Jackson during the last couple of possessions. He is really the best FT shooter on the team.
This is the type of loss that can cause hangovers for a team, especially those that have such a young roster. I hope that Drone (as a senior) Jackson and Evans prove to be great leaders and make sure this is not the case.
Rice's hot shooting (15/31 on 3's) really covered up some of the mental mistakes you mentioned. Rice will not shoot that well every game. Still, I didn't feel like the mental mistakes were horrible.
As for Livingston, he is a good player (2-time All-Sunbelt 2nd teamer) and is almost 2 years older than any of the guys on the court for Rice (1.75 years older than Jackson; 1.9 years older than Koulechov). He is 3.5 years older than Douglas and 4.5 years older than Letcher-Ellis and Meyer. He seemed to put those extra years and added savvy to good use against the younger guys defending him.
He knew he was going to get the calls and we didn't adjust to that. Mency gives up too much size to guard him. He would've just backed him down which he was still able to do with some of our bigger guys. MLE was the best option he just has to adjust to the terrible calls. By the end you could tell he was frustrated.
It's tough to shoot that well from 3 but I'd wager we average close to 40% this year. Jackson, Evans and Egor are all at least high 30s or better I'd say over the course of a season. They shoot the majority of our 3s. What's weird is Tudor is notoriously a good shooters court but we are shooting better on the road.
You are right that Mency gives up about 3 inches to Livingston but Bishop has always seemed to be "tougher" on the court defensively than MLE, who at times seems "soft" when combatting some post players. There is no doubt that MLE's offensive skills are far superior to Bishop. I would have liked to see at least a couple of possessions where Bishop had a chance to hit the court. Whatever the case, you are right, the team did not adjust to handle Livingston and the result was a loss in a game that was winnable.
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