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Aliens. Yeah, illegal aliens abducted her. No, not from Mexico but from outer space.
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(12-01-2016 06:30 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  
(12-01-2016 06:19 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  
(12-01-2016 02:26 PM)muffinman Wrote:  
(12-01-2016 01:20 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  What makes you think it's a hoax?

Sounds like it's a hoax, but it very well may not be. I dont really care all that much.

But on the surface it seems a bit weird.

-No ransom was demanded (one was offered, which is weird). She may now get some of that money.
-Extremely vague description of the captors.
-$50k sitting in a Gofundme account
-Dump her on the side of the road after 3 weeks
-There had been no tips on the identity of the captors
-She had a racist blog post about latinos back in '03
-Her husband subverted police to make a statement about the extent of her wifes injuries and problems... Something that police had not wanted to release just yet. (possibly setting up for more donations for her care & recovery)
-Kidnapping in the US for ransom is rare
-Getting released after 3 weeks of being kidnapped is even rarer

Again not saying she is lying, Im just saying that the whole event is just strange.

Police are good at their jobs, Im sure they will get to the bottom of it as soon as they can.

This is more about it than I had gotten from the news, but it struck me as a possible hoax or Mark Sanford type deal.

Now I'm thinking it's some kind of of misguided ploy to get a reality show offer or other bizarro schit.

real or not....there is much more behind this story....

if real, what possible motive would two hispanic women have to kidnap a 34 yr old female jogger, hold her for 3 weeks w/o ransom, brand her with a message, then just toss her out in the road? that one couldn't be good.....

if not, pick your poison for any reasons (like the handful previously listed)
They could just be sick people that couldn't go through with a killing. The torture is what drives them.

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(12-01-2016 07:20 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  
(12-01-2016 06:30 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  
(12-01-2016 06:19 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  
(12-01-2016 02:26 PM)muffinman Wrote:  
(12-01-2016 01:20 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  What makes you think it's a hoax?

Sounds like it's a hoax, but it very well may not be. I dont really care all that much.

But on the surface it seems a bit weird.

-No ransom was demanded (one was offered, which is weird). She may now get some of that money.
-Extremely vague description of the captors.
-$50k sitting in a Gofundme account
-Dump her on the side of the road after 3 weeks
-There had been no tips on the identity of the captors
-She had a racist blog post about latinos back in '03
-Her husband subverted police to make a statement about the extent of her wifes injuries and problems... Something that police had not wanted to release just yet. (possibly setting up for more donations for her care & recovery)
-Kidnapping in the US for ransom is rare
-Getting released after 3 weeks of being kidnapped is even rarer

Again not saying she is lying, Im just saying that the whole event is just strange.

Police are good at their jobs, Im sure they will get to the bottom of it as soon as they can.

This is more about it than I had gotten from the news, but it struck me as a possible hoax or Mark Sanford type deal.

Now I'm thinking it's some kind of of misguided ploy to get a reality show offer or other bizarro schit.

real or not....there is much more behind this story....

if real, what possible motive would two hispanic women have to kidnap a 34 yr old female jogger, hold her for 3 weeks w/o ransom, brand her with a message, then just toss her out in the road? that one couldn't be good.....

if not, pick your poison for any reasons (like the handful previously listed)
They could just be sick people that couldn't go through with a killing. The torture is what drives them.

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that's plausible....the kidnappers were women....
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(12-01-2016 07:25 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  
(12-01-2016 07:20 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  
(12-01-2016 06:30 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  
(12-01-2016 06:19 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  
(12-01-2016 02:26 PM)muffinman Wrote:  Sounds like it's a hoax, but it very well may not be. I dont really care all that much.

But on the surface it seems a bit weird.

-No ransom was demanded (one was offered, which is weird). She may now get some of that money.
-Extremely vague description of the captors.
-$50k sitting in a Gofundme account
-Dump her on the side of the road after 3 weeks
-There had been no tips on the identity of the captors
-She had a racist blog post about latinos back in '03
-Her husband subverted police to make a statement about the extent of her wifes injuries and problems... Something that police had not wanted to release just yet. (possibly setting up for more donations for her care & recovery)
-Kidnapping in the US for ransom is rare
-Getting released after 3 weeks of being kidnapped is even rarer

Again not saying she is lying, Im just saying that the whole event is just strange.

Police are good at their jobs, Im sure they will get to the bottom of it as soon as they can.

This is more about it than I had gotten from the news, but it struck me as a possible hoax or Mark Sanford type deal.

Now I'm thinking it's some kind of of misguided ploy to get a reality show offer or other bizarro schit.

real or not....there is much more behind this story....

if real, what possible motive would two hispanic women have to kidnap a 34 yr old female jogger, hold her for 3 weeks w/o ransom, brand her with a message, then just toss her out in the road? that one couldn't be good.....

if not, pick your poison for any reasons (like the handful previously listed)
They could just be sick people that couldn't go through with a killing. The torture is what drives them.

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that's plausible....the kidnappers were women....

The branding thing rings another bell, don't recall why.

Maybe they were attempting to sell her into sex trafficking? Looking for a highest bidder and got no takers?

I vaguely seem to recall girls/women being found overseas after managing to escape that had either tattoos or crude burn marks that served as a marking/tracking system as to who or what group they "belonged" to.

Dunno, just another possibility. One that would "make sense" as far as what was going on, not that it may have happened of course.
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(12-01-2016 07:54 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  
(12-01-2016 07:25 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  
(12-01-2016 07:20 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  
(12-01-2016 06:30 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  
(12-01-2016 06:19 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  This is more about it than I had gotten from the news, but it struck me as a possible hoax or Mark Sanford type deal.

Now I'm thinking it's some kind of of misguided ploy to get a reality show offer or other bizarro schit.

real or not....there is much more behind this story....

if real, what possible motive would two hispanic women have to kidnap a 34 yr old female jogger, hold her for 3 weeks w/o ransom, brand her with a message, then just toss her out in the road? that one couldn't be good.....

if not, pick your poison for any reasons (like the handful previously listed)
They could just be sick people that couldn't go through with a killing. The torture is what drives them.

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that's plausible....the kidnappers were women....

The branding thing rings another bell, don't recall why.

Maybe they were attempting to sell her into sex trafficking? Looking for a highest bidder and got no takers?

I vaguely seem to recall girls/women being found overseas after managing to escape that had either tattoos or crude burn marks that served as a marking/tracking system as to who or what group they "belonged" to.

Dunno, just another possibility. One that would "make sense" as far as what was going on, not that it may have happened of course.
I think it's criminal minds schit. Too much torture for sex traffiking. Nobody is going to guy a bruised and beat up 85 pound 35 year old.

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Sherri's description of her actual abduction should shed a lot of light on the situation. Was she attacked from behind? What road was she on when abducted? Does she always go run the same rout? Is the road she was on when she was abducted a high traffic road? Is it a road used to go from state to state? Is the road she was dumped on a road people commonly travel going from state to state? Is this the first abduction like this? I can't believe this is brand new if everything is true.

So many questions
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(12-01-2016 08:09 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  
(12-01-2016 07:54 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  
(12-01-2016 07:25 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  
(12-01-2016 07:20 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  
(12-01-2016 06:30 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  real or not....there is much more behind this story....

if real, what possible motive would two hispanic women have to kidnap a 34 yr old female jogger, hold her for 3 weeks w/o ransom, brand her with a message, then just toss her out in the road? that one couldn't be good.....

if not, pick your poison for any reasons (like the handful previously listed)
They could just be sick people that couldn't go through with a killing. The torture is what drives them.

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that's plausible....the kidnappers were women....

The branding thing rings another bell, don't recall why.

Maybe they were attempting to sell her into sex trafficking? Looking for a highest bidder and got no takers?

I vaguely seem to recall girls/women being found overseas after managing to escape that had either tattoos or crude burn marks that served as a marking/tracking system as to who or what group they "belonged" to.

Dunno, just another possibility. One that would "make sense" as far as what was going on, not that it may have happened of course.
I think it's criminal minds schit. Too much torture for sex traffiking. Nobody is going to guy a bruised and beat up 85 pound 35 year old.

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Exactly. So they caught a bad fish and threw it back.

I have NO idea, just going with the stuffs put here in front of me.
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Always look at the spouse first.
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(12-02-2016 08:07 AM)VA49er Wrote:  Always look at the spouse first.

The spouse passed a lie detector test.
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(12-02-2016 10:20 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(12-02-2016 08:07 AM)VA49er Wrote:  Always look at the spouse first.

The spouse passed a lie detector test.

Lie detector tests are notorious for being useless. Anyone with a bit of training can pass one....especially sociopaths.
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I'll pass that along to my good friend with the FBI. He spent about a year in Afghanistan a few years ago conducting tests on the Muzzies. That's all he does is give these tests!
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(12-02-2016 10:52 AM)South Carolina Duke Wrote:  I'll pass that along to my good friend with the FBI. He spent about a year in Afghanistan a few years ago conducting tests on the Muzzies. That's all he does is give these tests!

I don't doubt they have a place when coupled with other investigation techniques, but you've gotta admit cultural differences and technological awareness could account for differing levels of effectiveness between a relatively wealthy and literate white man in CA vs. a suspect in a poor village in the mountains of Afghanistan.

There's been lots of studies showing the ineffectiveness of the polygraph. I'm assuming your friend was using the PCASS? I think it's interesting that device isn't allowed to be used on US Personnel. (I admit there could be other legal reasons for this outside of effectiveness arguments)
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Well in that case..."eye witness testimony" is usually false and inaccurate as well. Regardless if you are a Metro Sexual make in Calif or living in a hut in Afghanistan.
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(12-02-2016 10:20 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(12-02-2016 08:07 AM)VA49er Wrote:  Always look at the spouse first.

The spouse passed a lie detector test.

Lots of liars pass lie detector tests. Not saying he is guilty but the spouse is ALWAYS the first suspect.
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(12-01-2016 07:54 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  
(12-01-2016 07:25 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  
(12-01-2016 07:20 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  
(12-01-2016 06:30 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  
(12-01-2016 06:19 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  This is more about it than I had gotten from the news, but it struck me as a possible hoax or Mark Sanford type deal.

Now I'm thinking it's some kind of of misguided ploy to get a reality show offer or other bizarro schit.

real or not....there is much more behind this story....

if real, what possible motive would two hispanic women have to kidnap a 34 yr old female jogger, hold her for 3 weeks w/o ransom, brand her with a message, then just toss her out in the road? that one couldn't be good.....

if not, pick your poison for any reasons (like the handful previously listed)
They could just be sick people that couldn't go through with a killing. The torture is what drives them.

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that's plausible....the kidnappers were women....

The branding thing rings another bell, don't recall why.

Maybe they were attempting to sell her into sex trafficking? Looking for a highest bidder and got no takers?

I vaguely seem to recall girls/women being found overseas after managing to escape that had either tattoos or crude burn marks that served as a marking/tracking system as to who or what group they "belonged" to.

Dunno, just another possibility. One that would "make sense" as far as what was going on, not that it may have happened of course.

This. Sex traffickers brand their victims. This is one theory thats out there. They thought that she was a teenager, so they abducted her for sex trafficking, but then they found out she was too old so they let her go.
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(12-02-2016 11:43 AM)VA49er Wrote:  
(12-02-2016 10:20 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(12-02-2016 08:07 AM)VA49er Wrote:  Always look at the spouse first.

The spouse passed a lie detector test.

Lots of liars pass lie detector tests. Not saying he is guilty but the spouse is ALWAYS the first suspect.

That's true but if he was willing to take a lie detector test it could also mean that he wasn't involved and wanted her found ASAP.

The woman is absolutely adorable. Who in their right mind would want to hurt a woman that looks like that?
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(12-02-2016 11:53 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  
(12-01-2016 07:54 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  
(12-01-2016 07:25 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  
(12-01-2016 07:20 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  
(12-01-2016 06:30 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  real or not....there is much more behind this story....

if real, what possible motive would two hispanic women have to kidnap a 34 yr old female jogger, hold her for 3 weeks w/o ransom, brand her with a message, then just toss her out in the road? that one couldn't be good.....

if not, pick your poison for any reasons (like the handful previously listed)
They could just be sick people that couldn't go through with a killing. The torture is what drives them.

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that's plausible....the kidnappers were women....

The branding thing rings another bell, don't recall why.

Maybe they were attempting to sell her into sex trafficking? Looking for a highest bidder and got no takers?

I vaguely seem to recall girls/women being found overseas after managing to escape that had either tattoos or crude burn marks that served as a marking/tracking system as to who or what group they "belonged" to.

Dunno, just another possibility. One that would "make sense" as far as what was going on, not that it may have happened of course.

This. Sex traffickers brand their victims. This is one theory thats out there. They thought that she was a teenager, so they abducted her for sex trafficking, but then they found out she was too old so they let her go.

Why would they torture her, starve her, and beat her up then? Would you buy services from an 85 pound escort with cuts and bruises all over her body?
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(12-02-2016 12:56 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  
(12-02-2016 11:53 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  
(12-01-2016 07:54 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  
(12-01-2016 07:25 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  
(12-01-2016 07:20 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  They could just be sick people that couldn't go through with a killing. The torture is what drives them.

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that's plausible....the kidnappers were women....

The branding thing rings another bell, don't recall why.

Maybe they were attempting to sell her into sex trafficking? Looking for a highest bidder and got no takers?

I vaguely seem to recall girls/women being found overseas after managing to escape that had either tattoos or crude burn marks that served as a marking/tracking system as to who or what group they "belonged" to.

Dunno, just another possibility. One that would "make sense" as far as what was going on, not that it may have happened of course.

This. Sex traffickers brand their victims. This is one theory thats out there. They thought that she was a teenager, so they abducted her for sex trafficking, but then they found out she was too old so they let her go.

Why would they torture her, starve her, and beat her up then? Would you buy services from an 85 pound escort with cuts and bruises all over her body?

to get her to lie about her age maybe? They probably didnt believe her that she was an older woman.
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(12-02-2016 12:44 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(12-02-2016 11:43 AM)VA49er Wrote:  
(12-02-2016 10:20 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(12-02-2016 08:07 AM)VA49er Wrote:  Always look at the spouse first.

The spouse passed a lie detector test.

Lots of liars pass lie detector tests. Not saying he is guilty but the spouse is ALWAYS the first suspect.

That's true but if he was willing to take a lie detector test it could also mean that he wasn't involved and wanted her found ASAP.

The woman is absolutely adorable. Who in their right mind would want to hurt a woman that looks like that?

I agree and hope the spouse isn't involved. However, I believe it is standard operating procedure for the police to thoroughly vet the spouse first in these situations. Lie detector tests are not proven science.
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(12-02-2016 12:44 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(12-02-2016 11:43 AM)VA49er Wrote:  
(12-02-2016 10:20 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(12-02-2016 08:07 AM)VA49er Wrote:  Always look at the spouse first.

The spouse passed a lie detector test.

Lots of liars pass lie detector tests. Not saying he is guilty but the spouse is ALWAYS the first suspect.

That's true but if he was willing to take a lie detector test it could also mean that he wasn't involved and wanted her found ASAP.

The woman is absolutely adorable. Who in their right mind would want to hurt a woman that looks like that?
That's such a weird statement. You think evil people are only be mean to ugly people? Dude you ain't wired right.
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