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They would find a way to screw our conference. I would be happy with WKU going, but they could say bye bye to their coach...might anyway...
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I've seen one projection that has us in Boca playing Houston. I'd be all over that matchup! 04-cheers
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If WMU wins it better be them. Cant do any better than undefeated. I think its a travesty that they won't even be included in the "real" playoff. Im rooting for them.
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(11-30-2016 04:35 PM)Psychored Wrote:  I've seen one projection that has us in Boca playing Houston. I'd be all over that matchup! 04-cheers

WKU vs Houston or Memphis would be a good matchup. WKU vs Houston would get more viewers, more exposure for WKU.
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(11-30-2016 05:17 PM)monarx Wrote:  If WMU wins it better be them. Cant do any better than undefeated. I think its a travesty that they won't even be included in the "real" playoff. Im rooting for them.

WMU is a good team, but I've seen enough to think they are somewhat paper tigers. Remind me a lot of Marshall form last year
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(11-30-2016 05:32 PM)va-eagle Wrote:  
(11-30-2016 04:35 PM)Psychored Wrote:  I've seen one projection that has us in Boca playing Houston. I'd be all over that matchup! 04-cheers

WKU vs Houston or Memphis would be a good matchup. WKU vs Houston would get more viewers, more exposure for WKU.

I don't think many AAC teams want to play WKU for two reasons ...1. They want a P5 game 2. They would be afraid WKU would whip that arse and that would not reflect good of the AAC. WKU has won the last three games against AAC teams...Navy...Navy...USF
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(11-30-2016 05:36 PM)wkuhilltopperfan Wrote:  
(11-30-2016 05:32 PM)va-eagle Wrote:  
(11-30-2016 04:35 PM)Psychored Wrote:  I've seen one projection that has us in Boca playing Houston. I'd be all over that matchup! 04-cheers

WKU vs Houston or Memphis would be a good matchup. WKU vs Houston would get more viewers, more exposure for WKU.

I don't think many AAC teams want to play WKU for two reasons ...1. They want a P5 game 2. They would be afraid WKU would whip that arse and that would not reflect good of the AAC. WKU has won the last three games against AAC teams...Navy...Navy...USF

1. they don't get to pick their opponents. Hell, what G5 team doesn't want to be matched up against a P5 team in a bowl? Payout is better, exposure is better.
2. The way Houston and Memphis have been loading up on talent last couple years, I'm not too sure they are afraid of WKU. Throw in the fact that WKU only has 2 wins against teams with winning records, which are CUSA teams, I don't think that will scare either of those teams.

However, WKU is definitely a terror within the CUSA league.
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WMU loses and Navy loses I think the attention focuses on SDSU if they beat Wyoming and on Temple. Personally I'd like to see WKU vs SDSU or Wyoming or Temple because it'd be good football and I'd pick WKU against SDSU or Wyoming.
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(11-30-2016 05:45 PM)va-eagle Wrote:  
(11-30-2016 05:36 PM)wkuhilltopperfan Wrote:  
(11-30-2016 05:32 PM)va-eagle Wrote:  
(11-30-2016 04:35 PM)Psychored Wrote:  I've seen one projection that has us in Boca playing Houston. I'd be all over that matchup! 04-cheers

WKU vs Houston or Memphis would be a good matchup. WKU vs Houston would get more viewers, more exposure for WKU.

I don't think many AAC teams want to play WKU for two reasons ...1. They want a P5 game 2. They would be afraid WKU would whip that arse and that would not reflect good of the AAC. WKU has won the last three games against AAC teams...Navy...Navy...USF

1. they don't get to pick their opponents. Hell, what G5 team doesn't want to be matched up against a P5 team in a bowl? Payout is better, exposure is better.
2. The way Houston and Memphis have been loading up on talent last couple years, I'm not too sure they are afraid of WKU. Throw in the fact that WKU only has 2 wins against teams with winning records, which are CUSA teams, I don't think that will scare either of those teams.

However, WKU is definitely a terror within the CUSA league.


Well since you put it that way lets look at Memphis...

Southeast Missouri State fcs
Kansas 2-10
BG 4-8
Temple 9-3
Tulane 4-8
Southern Methodist 5-7
Cincinnati 4-8
Houston 9-3

Miss loss by 20
Navy loss by 14
Tulsa loss by 29
South Florida loss by 7

So other than Houston the other 7 Memphis wins came against teams that have a real problem scoring points....most are in the mid 20s

Teams that score a lot of points beat Memphis fairly easy. So yeah Western is a "terror" in CUSA. Not only this season but last year also...winning by 25+ points. Other than Tech...didn't matter the name of the school. Hell even add in a S. Miss school that had only their 2nd 9 win season in the past 10....

still was no match
Same goes for USF last year

But you are correct.....Western only beat 2 schools with a winning record and one other without a losing record. But you can bet your ass any Memphis player that see's Western lining up across from their team...

better be concerned

If not they just don't know college football. But then again there's a lot of that
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(11-30-2016 02:34 PM)Cyniclone Wrote:  
(11-30-2016 02:29 PM)Psychored Wrote:  I read somewhere that if Navy and WMU both lose their CCG's, WKU (provided they win Sat) could come out with the access bowl spot being the highest ranked Conference Champion. Thoughts? 07-coffee3

I would think a 10-3 Temple with wins over Navy and South Florida would probably go before WKU, though I have no idea where either stand.

For dodo and giggles i looked at warrennolan.com. Their power index NPI is as follows

WKU 20
Navy 21
Temple 27

It might happen
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(11-30-2016 03:08 PM)msm96wolf Wrote:  I think you will now be seeing the other G5 and Bowls pressuring the CFP to change the Navy/Army rule. I personally think this game should be moved to the Saturday before Labor Day. Make it the Official Kick Off to College Football. That way you can keep all the fanfare, tailgating and make it the prime time game on Saturday.
Tradition means nothing to you? This game has been played the last weekend of college football since, well, before any of us on this board were born! Some traditions should remain. This is one of them, in my semi-humble opinion!
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(11-30-2016 07:21 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  Well since you put it that way lets look at Memphis...

Southeast Missouri State fcs
Kansas 2-10
BG 4-8
Temple 9-3
Tulane 4-8
Southern Methodist 5-7
Cincinnati 4-8
Houston 9-3

Miss loss by 20
Navy loss by 14
Tulsa loss by 29
South Florida loss by 7

So other than Houston the other 7 Memphis wins came against teams that have a real problem scoring points....most are in the mid 20s

Teams that score a lot of points beat Memphis fairly easy. So yeah Western is a "terror" in CUSA. Not only this season but last year also...winning by 25+ points. Other than Tech...didn't matter the name of the school. Hell even add in a S. Miss school that had only their 2nd 9 win season in the past 10....

still was no match
Same goes for USF last year

But you are correct.....Western only beat 2 schools with a winning record and one other without a losing record. But you can bet your ass any Memphis player that see's Western lining up across from their team...

better be concerned

If not they just don't know college football. But then again there's a lot of that

Memphis' SOS is 58. WKU's is 89.

http://warrennolan.com/football/2016/sos

Would be a great game. WKU-Memphis would be fine by me.
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(11-30-2016 10:36 PM)cotton1991 Wrote:  
(11-30-2016 07:21 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  Well since you put it that way lets look at Memphis...

Southeast Missouri State fcs
Kansas 2-10
BG 4-8
Temple 9-3
Tulane 4-8
Southern Methodist 5-7
Cincinnati 4-8
Houston 9-3

Miss loss by 20
Navy loss by 14
Tulsa loss by 29
South Florida loss by 7

So other than Houston the other 7 Memphis wins came against teams that have a real problem scoring points....most are in the mid 20s

Teams that score a lot of points beat Memphis fairly easy. So yeah Western is a "terror" in CUSA. Not only this season but last year also...winning by 25+ points. Other than Tech...didn't matter the name of the school. Hell even add in a S. Miss school that had only their 2nd 9 win season in the past 10....

still was no match
Same goes for USF last year

But you are correct.....Western only beat 2 schools with a winning record and one other without a losing record. But you can bet your ass any Memphis player that see's Western lining up across from their team...

better be concerned

If not they just don't know college football. But then again there's a lot of that

Memphis' SOS is 58. WKU's is 89.

http://warrennolan.com/football/2016/sos

Would be a great game. WKU-Memphis would be fine by me.


Yes I know Memphis played the tougher schedule. But as I pointed out Memphis loss to most of the decent to good teams. Other than Houston the teams you beat played little in helping Memphis get that SOS. But that is usually the case for most schools in the 3 to 4 loss range.

This is the match up I want. Think it will be a good game but I do think Western's offense is the type that gives Memphis big trouble.

At some point in the near future as Western continues to grow Memphis is one of the OOC teams I want to see on Western's schedule.
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(11-30-2016 11:35 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  
(11-30-2016 10:36 PM)cotton1991 Wrote:  
(11-30-2016 07:21 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  Well since you put it that way lets look at Memphis...

Southeast Missouri State fcs
Kansas 2-10
BG 4-8
Temple 9-3
Tulane 4-8
Southern Methodist 5-7
Cincinnati 4-8
Houston 9-3

Miss loss by 20
Navy loss by 14
Tulsa loss by 29
South Florida loss by 7

So other than Houston the other 7 Memphis wins came against teams that have a real problem scoring points....most are in the mid 20s

Teams that score a lot of points beat Memphis fairly easy. So yeah Western is a "terror" in CUSA. Not only this season but last year also...winning by 25+ points. Other than Tech...didn't matter the name of the school. Hell even add in a S. Miss school that had only their 2nd 9 win season in the past 10....

still was no match
Same goes for USF last year

But you are correct.....Western only beat 2 schools with a winning record and one other without a losing record. But you can bet your ass any Memphis player that see's Western lining up across from their team...

better be concerned

If not they just don't know college football. But then again there's a lot of that

Memphis' SOS is 58. WKU's is 89.

http://warrennolan.com/football/2016/sos

Would be a great game. WKU-Memphis would be fine by me.


Yes I know Memphis played the tougher schedule. But as I pointed out Memphis loss to most of the decent to good teams. Other than Houston the teams you beat played little in helping Memphis get that SOS. But that is usually the case for most schools in the 3 to 4 loss range.

This is the match up I want. Think it will be a good game but I do think Western's offense is the type that gives Memphis big trouble.

At some point in the near future as Western continues to grow Memphis is one of the OOC teams I want to see on Western's schedule.

SOS has nothing to do with who you beat or who you lose to, but who you play.

But even if you think otherwise, in addition to beating 9-3 Houston, Memphis also beat 10-2 Temple, the AAC East division champ, which is playing in the CCG against Navy. In the AAC, Memphis lost to 9-3 Tulsa, to 10-2 Navy, and to 10-2 USF.

Massey listed the AAC West division above the SEC East and above the Big XII. The final standings were Navy, Tulsa, Memphis, Houston, SMU, and Tulane.

While a WKU-Memphis bowl game would be great, in terms of OOC, Memphis for some insane reason has chosen home and home games over the next few years with ULM, Georgia State, and South Alabama. I would much prefer USM, WKU, or ArkState, and have no clue why the admin chose otherwise. Recruiting I guess.
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(12-01-2016 12:02 AM)cotton1991 Wrote:  
(11-30-2016 11:35 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  
(11-30-2016 10:36 PM)cotton1991 Wrote:  
(11-30-2016 07:21 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  Well since you put it that way lets look at Memphis...

Southeast Missouri State fcs
Kansas 2-10
BG 4-8
Temple 9-3
Tulane 4-8
Southern Methodist 5-7
Cincinnati 4-8
Houston 9-3

Miss loss by 20
Navy loss by 14
Tulsa loss by 29
South Florida loss by 7

So other than Houston the other 7 Memphis wins came against teams that have a real problem scoring points....most are in the mid 20s

Teams that score a lot of points beat Memphis fairly easy. So yeah Western is a "terror" in CUSA. Not only this season but last year also...winning by 25+ points. Other than Tech...didn't matter the name of the school. Hell even add in a S. Miss school that had only their 2nd 9 win season in the past 10....

still was no match
Same goes for USF last year

But you are correct.....Western only beat 2 schools with a winning record and one other without a losing record. But you can bet your ass any Memphis player that see's Western lining up across from their team...

better be concerned

If not they just don't know college football. But then again there's a lot of that

Memphis' SOS is 58. WKU's is 89.

http://warrennolan.com/football/2016/sos

Would be a great game. WKU-Memphis would be fine by me.


Yes I know Memphis played the tougher schedule. But as I pointed out Memphis loss to most of the decent to good teams. Other than Houston the teams you beat played little in helping Memphis get that SOS. But that is usually the case for most schools in the 3 to 4 loss range.

This is the match up I want. Think it will be a good game but I do think Western's offense is the type that gives Memphis big trouble.

At some point in the near future as Western continues to grow Memphis is one of the OOC teams I want to see on Western's schedule.

SOS has nothing to do with who you beat or who you lose to, but who you play.

But even if you think otherwise, in addition to beating 9-3 Houston, Memphis also beat 9-3 Temple, the AAC East division champ, which is playing in the CCG against Navy. In the AAC, Memphis lost to 9-3 Tulsa, to 10-2 Navy, and to 10-2 USF.

Massey listed the AAC West division above the SEC East and above the Big XII.

I fully understand how the SOS works. The point was that the teams that mostly destroyed help build the SOS more so than the teams Memphis beat.

The SOS is not about the WHO....the only thing that matters in your SOS is the record of the schools you played and the record of who those schools played.

But the point is the same...

Other than the 2 schools Memphis beat that had 9 wins....no other win helped your SOS. Other works just like Western you beat 2 schools with a winning record.

A fact the person I quoted tried to make as a reason Western would not "scare" anyone.
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