(12-03-2016 01:42 PM)Ragpicker Wrote:  

(12-03-2016 01:21 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  

(12-03-2016 01:17 PM)Ragpicker Wrote:  The "power conference" set up is a scam.

Actually it's a brilliant business model. The cartel of P5 institutions and TV networks continue to fleece the member institutions of G5 conferences. And those G5 schools continue to let it happen. Shocked that no lawsuits were brought after the B12 expansion circus. "Thank you sir, may I have another."

Absolutely.

Schools in the G5 have only 2 decisions to choose from now. Spend the money and go for broke to be the next Boise State or lose money while subsidizing the heck out of FCS Major Division programs just for the purpose of free ad time on the networks when games air on week nights.

UC is so complicit in their own failure. Not only did they not close a P5 deal, but they take this second class status lying down. Michigan cancels - no problem. Play football on a Wednesday night - Ok. B12 jerks them around - heck we even printed up a B12 banner for a press conference that never happened.

If we had a real media presence in this town that's not in bed with UC, Lindner's, FCC, etc, I would love to see full discovery of what the B12 administration and its member schools said to Ono/Davenport and UC's representatives. Of course they all left town very quickly.
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It'd be interesting to see if Jason Williams continued to push the story post-Big XII rejection...but he doesn't seem to be on the scene very much.

Not many FOIA's filed post-rejection, seemingly.

(12-03-2016 01:56 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  

(12-03-2016 01:42 PM)Ragpicker Wrote:  

(12-03-2016 01:21 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  

(12-03-2016 01:17 PM)Ragpicker Wrote:  The "power conference" set up is a scam.

Actually it's a brilliant business model. The cartel of P5 institutions and TV networks continue to fleece the member institutions of G5 conferences. And those G5 schools continue to let it happen. Shocked that no lawsuits were brought after the B12 expansion circus. "Thank you sir, may I have another."

Absolutely.

Schools in the G5 have only 2 decisions to choose from now. Spend the money and go for broke to be the next Boise State or lose money while subsidizing the heck out of FCS Major Division programs just for the purpose of free ad time on the networks when games air on week nights.

UC is so complicit in their own failure. Not only did they not close a P5 deal, but they take this second class status lying down. Michigan cancels - no problem. Play football on a Wednesday night - Ok. B12 jerks them around - heck we even printed up a B12 banner for a press conference that never happened.

If we had a real media presence in this town that's not in bed with UC, Lindner's, FCC, etc, I would love to see full discovery of what the B12 administration and its member schools said to Ono/Davenport and UC's representatives. Of course they all left town very quickly.

It'd be interesting to see if Jason Williams continued to push the story post-Big XII rejection...but he doesn't seem to be on the scene very much.

Not many FOIA's filed post-rejection, seemingly.
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The Big XII didn't expand with anybody. I am not sure what UC could have done about that.

I do want an answer on the Michigan series, will UC play them in football next year?

Whether Tuberville stays or leaves, the football team is probably going to win 7 to 8 games based on the schedule and the returning players. Outside of BCS membership, UC has never been anything better than a decent program. My expectations are to compete for conference championship but I believe those types of seasons will come every three or four years. Cats won a share of the title in 2014 so lets assume by 2018 the program will back in position to win one. In a four year or five year period I expect one to two 9 win type seasons or more and couple of average to decent years mixed in. Those that hope the Brian Kelly years come back are dreaming. That was a once in a lifetime type run. Kelly went 34-6, Sid Gillman went 50-13-1, and nobody else has every come close to matching those two at UC.

(12-03-2016 01:56 PM)JackieTreehorn Wrote:  

(12-03-2016 01:44 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  TT a.k.a "The Great Divider." LOL gentlemen! Everyone take a deep breath. Knowing TT's fate can't come quick enough. Hey Bohn!? Are you listening? We're dyin' in here!

Quote:“You can come after me all you want,” Tuberville said. “It doesn't bother me. I've heard it all.”
-Tommy Tuberville post USF game October 4, 2016

I just want him to hear one thing on Dec 8th: "Your services here are no longer required".

(12-03-2016 01:56 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  

(12-03-2016 01:42 PM)Ragpicker Wrote:  

(12-03-2016 01:21 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  

(12-03-2016 01:17 PM)Ragpicker Wrote:  The "power conference" set up is a scam.

Actually it's a brilliant business model. The cartel of P5 institutions and TV networks continue to fleece the member institutions of G5 conferences. And those G5 schools continue to let it happen. Shocked that no lawsuits were brought after the B12 expansion circus. "Thank you sir, may I have another."

Absolutely.

Schools in the G5 have only 2 decisions to choose from now. Spend the money and go for broke to be the next Boise State or lose money while subsidizing the heck out of FCS Major Division programs just for the purpose of free ad time on the networks when games air on week nights.

UC is so complicit in their own failure. Not only did they not close a P5 deal, but they take this second class status lying down. Michigan cancels - no problem. Play football on a Wednesday night - Ok. B12 jerks them around - heck we even printed up a B12 banner for a press conference that never happened.

If we had a real media presence in this town that's not in bed with UC, Lindner's, FCC, etc, I would love to see full discovery of what the B12 administration and its member schools said to Ono/Davenport and UC's representatives. Of course they all left town very quickly.

It'd be interesting to see if Jason Williams continued to push the story post-Big XII rejection...but he doesn't seem to be on the scene very much.

Not many FOIA's filed post-rejection, seemingly.
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I am not sure what people want when it comes to Ono/ Davenport and the XII. Fertita was quoted as saying when they went to give their presentation there was not one XII President in the room. I would imagine it was that way for everyone. The XII was never going to expand so I am not sure why people blame our administration for not being able to seal the deal. Should we blame them for trying when the process was clearly a sham?

(12-03-2016 02:54 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  

(12-03-2016 01:56 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  

(12-03-2016 01:42 PM)Ragpicker Wrote:  

(12-03-2016 01:21 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  

(12-03-2016 01:17 PM)Ragpicker Wrote:  The "power conference" set up is a scam.

Actually it's a brilliant business model. The cartel of P5 institutions and TV networks continue to fleece the member institutions of G5 conferences. And those G5 schools continue to let it happen. Shocked that no lawsuits were brought after the B12 expansion circus. "Thank you sir, may I have another."

Absolutely.

Schools in the G5 have only 2 decisions to choose from now. Spend the money and go for broke to be the next Boise State or lose money while subsidizing the heck out of FCS Major Division programs just for the purpose of free ad time on the networks when games air on week nights.

UC is so complicit in their own failure. Not only did they not close a P5 deal, but they take this second class status lying down. Michigan cancels - no problem. Play football on a Wednesday night - Ok. B12 jerks them around - heck we even printed up a B12 banner for a press conference that never happened.

If we had a real media presence in this town that's not in bed with UC, Lindner's, FCC, etc, I would love to see full discovery of what the B12 administration and its member schools said to Ono/Davenport and UC's representatives. Of course they all left town very quickly.

It'd be interesting to see if Jason Williams continued to push the story post-Big XII rejection...but he doesn't seem to be on the scene very much.

Not many FOIA's filed post-rejection, seemingly.

I am not sure what people want when it comes to Ono/ Davenport and the XII. Fertita was quoted as saying when they went to give their presentation there was not one XII President in the room. I would imagine it was that way for everyone. The XII was never going to expand so I am not sure why people blame our administration for not being able to seal the deal. Should we blame them for trying when the process was clearly a sham?
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I heard when we presented it was just to Bowlsby and a bunch of lawyers. Like Ono has said, you can only go to a new conference if they invite you.

I take it back... CRAP play calling and we lost to a 4-7 Ga Southern team... Take Coach Brown if you want

(12-03-2016 03:17 PM)JackieTreehorn Wrote:  

(12-03-2016 02:54 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  

(12-03-2016 01:56 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  

(12-03-2016 01:42 PM)Ragpicker Wrote:  

(12-03-2016 01:21 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Actually it's a brilliant business model. The cartel of P5 institutions and TV networks continue to fleece the member institutions of G5 conferences. And those G5 schools continue to let it happen. Shocked that no lawsuits were brought after the B12 expansion circus. "Thank you sir, may I have another."

Absolutely.

Schools in the G5 have only 2 decisions to choose from now. Spend the money and go for broke to be the next Boise State or lose money while subsidizing the heck out of FCS Major Division programs just for the purpose of free ad time on the networks when games air on week nights.

UC is so complicit in their own failure. Not only did they not close a P5 deal, but they take this second class status lying down. Michigan cancels - no problem. Play football on a Wednesday night - Ok. B12 jerks them around - heck we even printed up a B12 banner for a press conference that never happened.

If we had a real media presence in this town that's not in bed with UC, Lindner's, FCC, etc, I would love to see full discovery of what the B12 administration and its member schools said to Ono/Davenport and UC's representatives. Of course they all left town very quickly.

It'd be interesting to see if Jason Williams continued to push the story post-Big XII rejection...but he doesn't seem to be on the scene very much.

Not many FOIA's filed post-rejection, seemingly.

I am not sure what people want when it comes to Ono/ Davenport and the XII. Fertita was quoted as saying when they went to give their presentation there was not one XII President in the room. I would imagine it was that way for everyone. The XII was never going to expand so I am not sure why people blame our administration for not being able to seal the deal. Should we blame them for trying when the process was clearly a sham?

I heard when we presented it was just to Bowlsby and a bunch of lawyers. Like Ono has said, you can only go to a new conference if they invite you.
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This. It just boggles my mind all of the blame being thrown around when it was not an honest process. I guess it makes some people feel better if they can target certain individuals that they may not like.

I'm not blaming anyone on the UC side... It'd be fascinating to get a hold of the B12's communications and memos.

And I agree...I said it many times that the B12 was not going to expand and the whole facade was a pretext for other things.

Well the good news is I still here a lot of passion on this board. Nobody here buying that P6 crap. I imagine the only fan bases rallying around it are teams with no chance of an invite anywhere, EVER.

As I mentioned when I started this thread...I had it from a very good source. Glad he stepped down with some class. Hoping they reached some severance agreement that doesn't make us pay the whole buy-out. Nice guy but he didn't have the fire anymore. Let the search begin.

(12-04-2016 11:09 AM)BearcatBallJones Wrote:  As I mentioned when I started this thread...I had it from a very good source. Glad he stepped down with some class. Hoping they reached some severance agreement that doesn't make us pay the whole buy-out. Nice guy but he didn't have the fire anymore. Let the search begin.

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