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RE: Dzierzawski dismissed from men's basketball team
I wonder when the coaching staff learned that Jackson was interested in transferring from Missouri. I wonder if that news had anything to do with Dzierzawski's dismissal. Even if it did, Dzierzawski must have done something wrong in order to get the axe ahead of Antunez, who seems not to be as good a player. I suppose if you're going to let someone go mid-season you have to find an excuse better than just he's not a good a player as we thought he would be.

Without Dzierzawski being kicked off the team and leaving school, the scholarship for Jackson would not have been available. (I think that, if he stays at UT, his scholarship remains in effect for the full year.)

Dzierzawski has landed at Kentucky Wesleyan, ranked #9 in DII.
02-26-2017 12:44 PM
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RE: Dzierzawski dismissed from men's basketball team
(02-26-2017 12:44 PM)Dwight Wrote:  I wonder when the coaching staff learned that Jackson was interested in transferring from Missouri. I wonder if that news had anything to do with Dzierzawski's dismissal. Even if it did, Dzierzawski must have done something wrong in order to get the axe ahead of Antunez, who seems not to be as good a player. I suppose if you're going to let someone go mid-season you have to find an excuse better than just he's not a good a player as we thought he would be.

Without Dzierzawski being kicked off the team and leaving school, the scholarship for Jackson would not have been available. (I think that, if he stays at UT, his scholarship remains in effect for the full year.)

Dzierzawski has landed at Kentucky Wesleyan, ranked #9 in DII.
I believe we had 12 on scholarship before Dziewzawski left so there was already room for Jackson. Plus, it is considered ethical in college basketball to not renew a scholarship at the end of a year if that player is no longer wanted, but unethical to do that midseason. If Dziewzawski was a disappointment they would have made a move after the season, but it seems this was more than that.
02-26-2017 01:56 PM
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RE: Dzierzawski dismissed from men's basketball team
We had 13 before Dzierzawski left. Sanford, Williams, Lauf, Knapke, Taylor, Navigato, Garber, Roberts, Adway, Antunez, Dzierzawski, Gordon, Fletcher. I agree with you about the ethics of cutting a guy mid-season.

I also agree that it's considered ethical in college basketball to cut a guy at the end of the year, but I personally don't agree with that, assuming that the guy is working hard and doing what's asked of him but just isn't as good as the coach thought he was going to be.
02-26-2017 04:46 PM
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RE: Dzierzawski dismissed from men's basketball team
yeah, I agree on your view of the year to year scholarship renewals Dwight, just putting out there the institutional ethics of NCAA sports programs.
02-26-2017 05:21 PM
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RE: Dzierzawski dismissed from men's basketball team
(02-26-2017 05:21 PM)pono Wrote:  yeah, I agree on your view of the year to year scholarship renewals Dwight, just putting out there the institutional ethics of NCAA sports programs.
If you listened to the coaches show he clearly committed some kind of team rules violation
02-26-2017 07:12 PM
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RE: Dzierzawski dismissed from men's basketball team
(02-26-2017 07:12 PM)rocketpaul Wrote:  
(02-26-2017 05:21 PM)pono Wrote:  yeah, I agree on your view of the year to year scholarship renewals Dwight, just putting out there the institutional ethics of NCAA sports programs.
If you listened to the coaches show he clearly committed some kind of team rules violation

Must have been a serious one to be booted from the program. If I remember correctly, we've had players during K's tenure get caught with marijuana and get caught driving under the influence, both of which I believe merited missing a single game. I wonder what kind of rules violation gets you sent packing mid-season. There had been no prior discipline of Dzierzawski that I know of, so it wouldn't seem to have been based on multiple violations. An on-line check shows no Toledo misdemeanors or Lucas County felonies.
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RE: Dzierzawski dismissed from men's basketball team
the only serious offense i recall during TK was drummond's DUI. that happened to a veteran captain type player who showed a lot of remorse and tried to mitigate the situation, so he got some beneficial treatment, which you can argue was deserved. undeserved if you were in a car he crashed into when drunk. players getting suspended a game for smoking weed with a couple friends is a minor deal. dzierzawski didn't need to break the law to be a bad teammate. he might have done things in practice to disrespect staff or teammates. he might have broken academic expectation rules. he might have broken certain trusts, missed team meetings, etc... dude's gone.

as far as donna or or chandler white or maybe antunez or another player being told "hey, we don't see a place for you in our program moving forward. we don't plan to renew your scholarship" that is a common "business decision" in michigan coach beilen's words. unfortunately, that is the mentality of a lot of college sports programs. i don't want them to be businesses. yes, there is a business component to running an arena, promotions, marketing, budgets, but it is an extracurricular public university program funded to enhance the student experience. if good students who are good teammates and capable (if not exceptional) players have their scholarship agreements terminated in the name of business we are missing the point. i don't believe it's a coincidence that Centennial-Savage Hall attendance has declined steadily every year since the big MAC team mascot logo placards above the student bleachers were converted to corporate sponsor logos. I don't think it coincidence that as the athletic department has improved in running the program like a business (which has had certain benefits) they have less connection to community outreach and extended NW Ohio loyalty to the Rockets. I don't blame the athletic department or really UT. it's been a cultural shift. SHhh!t, we have a president whose credentials are property development and successful branding running a civil society government.
02-27-2017 03:10 AM
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