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Pitt 76 Syracuse 61
I cannot completely comprehend what I witnessed in person earlier today. Just wow
11-26-2016 10:27 PM
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(11-26-2016 10:27 PM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  I cannot completely comprehend what I witnessed in person earlier today. Just wow

Two of the worst secondaries and best offenses in the country played each other. Thats what you get! LOL.
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11-26-2016 10:34 PM
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I watched part of that game and cursed MT vs FAU -- we ended up 77 to 56 winners. Talk about offense and not much defense! Glad both Pitt and MT won tho... lots of room to improve on the defensive side of the ball however. yikes!
11-26-2016 11:16 PM
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Sorry I missed that basketball game. Was it woman's basketball?☚ī¸
11-27-2016 01:33 AM
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(11-26-2016 10:34 PM)cuseroc Wrote:  
(11-26-2016 10:27 PM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  I cannot completely comprehend what I witnessed in person earlier today. Just wow

Two of the worst secondaries and best offenses in the country played each other. Thats what you get! LOL.

I don't think that the SU offense is actually better this year - although that game may have put us over the top. The offense is just faster, so there are more chances (for both teams) to score. I had a thread that I started, where I meant to track our pace-adjusted performance, but I got busy and couldn't find the time to update it.
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11-27-2016 09:13 AM
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I didn't watch the second half of the game because I was headed to a family function a few hours away, but weird games like this happen. I'm just glad Pitt came down on the right side of history this time.

Pitt's defense is NOT that bad. Not 61 points bad, most days, anyway.
11-27-2016 10:19 AM
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(11-27-2016 10:19 AM)ndlutz Wrote:  I didn't watch the second half of the game because I was headed to a family function a few hours away, but weird games like this happen. I'm just glad Pitt came down on the right side of history this time.

Pitt's defense is NOT that bad. Not 61 points bad, most days, anyway.

It was a B12 classic.
11-27-2016 11:49 AM
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Look, we ended up on the right side of the final score so all is well that ends well and all that happy horseshitt but I am not kidding when I say that it was absolutely one of the worst college football games I've ever seen in person.

It was just a pathetic display of defensive football from start to finish.

If I thought the offenses were doing great or especially imaginative things out there I would be more even handed in my assessment. However, that wasn't the case at all. Pitt ran about 35 jet sweeps while Syracuse ran 230 bubble screens. Obviously, neither side could stop the other so they just kept doing it. Good for those teams' offenses but horrible for the people in attendance.

I was furious when I was leaving the stadium – and we won by 15 points! I can't even imagine how angry I would be if I were a Syracuse fan.

Schitty football no matter how you slice it. I don't know why Big 12 fans put up with it? Personally, I hope I never have to watch BS like that again. If I wanted to watch arena football I'd tune in to the Arizona Wranglers versus the Omaha Roughriders or whatever the hell those backwater teams are called?

Four hours of freaking bubble screens – you've got to be kidding me!
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Defense is going by the wayside!
11-27-2016 03:42 PM
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And that is very bad for the sport.
11-27-2016 04:01 PM
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I have to agree Dr.. It really didn't help that there was several players injured on Pitt's defense, but come on. It was the worst effort on defense that I've seen in my entire life. Pittsburgher's, whether it's the Steelers, Pitt, or high school football, always prided themselves on great defense. As much as I've found the NFL getting boring over the past few years, gimme one of those 17-13 Steelers wins back during the Bill Cower era over this.
11-28-2016 09:43 AM
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(11-27-2016 09:13 AM)nzmorange Wrote:  
(11-26-2016 10:34 PM)cuseroc Wrote:  
(11-26-2016 10:27 PM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  I cannot completely comprehend what I witnessed in person earlier today. Just wow

Two of the worst secondaries and best offenses in the country played each other. Thats what you get! LOL.

I don't think that the SU offense is actually better this year - although that game may have put us over the top. The offense is just faster, so there are more chances (for both teams) to score. I had a thread that I started, where I meant to track our pace-adjusted performance, but I got busy and couldn't find the time to update it.

The S&P and FEI metrics, that are opponent and pace adjusted, have them ranked 66 and 72 respectively, so they are definitely not "one of the better offenses in college football." You are correct about that.

However, last year they were 61 and 84 by those measures, so by FEI at least, they are improved, but not by S&P.

Overall, total team rankings for f/+ (S&P and FEI combined) has them rated about the same this year and last.

Too early to make any judgements. The key point is not whether they are much better this year, it will be whether this style of play (and the staff itself) allows Syracuse to entice better athletes into the program than previously.

If the caliber of athlete doesn't change, the relative strength of the team just isn't going to, no matter what the system. Excellent preparation and game day coaching might steal an extra win here or there, but the athletes will make the difference.

And edited to say...I think that this system WILL pay dividends in that department, if this staff are also good recruiters. Even if the offense hasn't proven better yet, I think the change of staff and system is a good move.
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Highest scoring game in FBS history!!!

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There were more points scored in this football game than in 8 of their last 10 meetings on the hardwood.
11-30-2016 10:10 PM
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So much for trying to shed the basketball conference image...

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