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RE: If We Only Had A COG!
(11-27-2016 09:25 AM)AppManDG Wrote:  
(11-27-2016 07:57 AM)Saint3333 Wrote:  I agree 9 for football works best, but for all sports CCU was a no brainer. They will be in the top half if not top fourth of pretty much all Olympic sports.

We really can't complain too much as App was likely the largest driving force for adding CCU.

UNCG, no thanks.

Andy, you gotta get past that SoCon prejudice and consider what's best for App. Name another non-football school within 3 hours of Boone that's a better choice. Don't think we were a driving force behind their admission.

I don't really want another non-football school. UNCG brings nothing to the conference other than reduced travel, meh.

App was the school that convinced Ark St who then spear headed the western approval of CCU, I think we led the charge there.

The ASUs may have the two most influential ADs in the conference currently.
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(11-26-2016 10:41 PM)Usajags Wrote:  The only way this is really going to work for us is to go to 12. Bit that bullet now, get used to the idea of two more teams and make it happen. I'm still not sure the Big 12 is completely out of the expansion business. PAC 12 needs 2 more teams too, so who knows what will happen by 2018.

If this conference wants 12 for football it has a funny way of showing it. 2 football-only members were perfect for that -- we balanced out the non-FB schools, didn't jumble up your revenue from basketball or other sports and paid you guys travel subsidies. But the Sun Belt didn't want that, so it seems unlikely you're looking to expand anytime soon given the available candidate pool.
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I think SBC should hang on to my pals out West and be realistic but patient about the future realignment of many conferences. But, I'm just a simpleton.
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(11-27-2016 10:05 AM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  
(11-27-2016 09:25 AM)AppManDG Wrote:  
(11-27-2016 07:57 AM)Saint3333 Wrote:  I agree 9 for football works best, but for all sports CCU was a no brainer. They will be in the top half if not top fourth of pretty much all Olympic sports.

We really can't complain too much as App was likely the largest driving force for adding CCU.

UNCG, no thanks.

Andy, you gotta get past that SoCon prejudice and consider what's best for App. Name another non-football school within 3 hours of Boone that's a better choice. Don't think we were a driving force behind their admission.

Davidson. They're easily the best non-football school within maybe a six- or seven-hour radius of Boone.

Of course, you meant a school the SBC could actually get. No way they'd leave for any league other than the Big East.


I'd put UNCW as a more attractive non-football school than UNCG, but they're farther than the 3-hour radius, too. Besides, I'm doubtful UNCG would have interest in the SBC over staying in the SoCon or holding out for the Colonial.

All in all, there is no reversing decisions already made, and I'm personally very happy Coastal Carolina was chosen over EKU, Liberty, or the hypothetical UNCG or UNCW (who also wouldn't likely leave the Colonial for the SBC, anyway). Coastal is pretty darn far for a "travel partner," and that's a fair point. They're not much closer, if at all, than Georgia State is. But they are excellent from an all-around athletics standpoint, and they help meet the interests of the conference as a whole much better than any of the non-football options closer to Boone.

Really the only thing that would make sense would be for geographic realignment between the Sun Belt and C-USA. After three years, it's still ridiculous to me, with nothing at all against the fine programs in the western part of our league, that we are in a conference with Texas and Louisiana schools but not Charlotte, ODU, and Marshall, while those schools share a conference with UTEP and three other Texas schools. But that is another topic altogether.

They could potentially be swayed to the SBC if they ever decided to upgrade from D-IAA non-scholly to FBS...but that's probably not likely. They'd sure bring some roundball greatness to the Belt though.
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Davidson has no desire to be anywhere except where they are (not counting BE)


The only UNC team I could see that would step away from their conference would be UNCA. They're good at bouncy ball and okay enough in Baseball.
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Really the only thing that would make sense would be for geographic realignment between the Sun Belt and C-USA.
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(11-27-2016 11:52 AM)Saint3333 Wrote:  
(11-27-2016 09:25 AM)AppManDG Wrote:  
(11-27-2016 07:57 AM)Saint3333 Wrote:  I agree 9 for football works best, but for all sports CCU was a no brainer. They will be in the top half if not top fourth of pretty much all Olympic sports.

We really can't complain too much as App was likely the largest driving force for adding CCU.

UNCG, no thanks.

Andy, you gotta get past that SoCon prejudice and consider what's best for App. Name another non-football school within 3 hours of Boone that's a better choice. Don't think we were a driving force behind their admission.

App was the school that convinced Ark St who then spear headed the western approval of CCU, I think we led the charge there.

Not according to what I was told by KB & KP.
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Guess we heard different stories.
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(11-27-2016 07:52 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  Guess we heard different stories.
You probably got it from Cobb & Beasley. You can't trust anything those guys said.

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(11-27-2016 07:16 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  
(11-27-2016 11:52 AM)Saint3333 Wrote:  
(11-27-2016 09:25 AM)AppManDG Wrote:  
(11-27-2016 07:57 AM)Saint3333 Wrote:  I agree 9 for football works best, but for all sports CCU was a no brainer. They will be in the top half if not top fourth of pretty much all Olympic sports.

We really can't complain too much as App was likely the largest driving force for adding CCU.

UNCG, no thanks.

Andy, you gotta get past that SoCon prejudice and consider what's best for App. Name another non-football school within 3 hours of Boone that's a better choice. Don't think we were a driving force behind their admission.

App was the school that convinced Ark St who then spear headed the western approval of CCU, I think we led the charge there.

Not according to what I was told by KB & KP.
KP is Ken Peacock. Who is KB?
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(11-28-2016 11:36 AM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  
(11-27-2016 07:16 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  
(11-27-2016 11:52 AM)Saint3333 Wrote:  
(11-27-2016 09:25 AM)AppManDG Wrote:  
(11-27-2016 07:57 AM)Saint3333 Wrote:  I agree 9 for football works best, but for all sports CCU was a no brainer. They will be in the top half if not top fourth of pretty much all Olympic sports.

We really can't complain too much as App was likely the largest driving force for adding CCU.

UNCG, no thanks.

Andy, you gotta get past that SoCon prejudice and consider what's best for App. Name another non-football school within 3 hours of Boone that's a better choice. Don't think we were a driving force behind their admission.

App was the school that convinced Ark St who then spear headed the western approval of CCU, I think we led the charge there.

Not according to what I was told by KB & KP.
KP is Ken Peacock. Who is KB?
The SB Commissioner. We have a few mutual friends. He comes by our tailgate whenever he's in town for an App game.

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We need to have this game next year! There is no reason not too.

With Coastal coming in next season I dont think they can play in a Sunbelt Title Game but why cant we just have the #1 east team play the #1 west and if Coastal is #1 on the east have the #2 east team play the #1 west!

The way its looking now is that if we had one this year. Troy might be hosting ULL for the championship.
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(11-28-2016 11:47 AM)Artemis Silver Bow Wrote:  We need to have this game next year! There is no reason not too.

With Coastal coming in next season I dont think they can play in a Sunbelt Title Game but why cant we just have the #1 east team play the #1 west and if Coastal is #1 on the east have the #2 east team play the #1 west!

The way its looking now is that if we had one this year. Troy might be hosting ULL for the championship.

Did you happen to look at how many losses UL has in conference? That's kind of important.
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(11-26-2016 08:10 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  Sorry, I couldn't resist....

I'm late to the party, but as mentioned in another thread, a championship game in this situation would solve nothing. App had a shot at an outright title and let Troy drive down the field to score what turned out to be a game winner. Troy had a shot at an outright title and lost 35-3 to Arkansas State. Arkansas State caught an unfortunate break (according to a few people) resulting in a loss to Louisiana and a chance at an outright title.

The conference championship was played throughout the season. A conference championship may help if it were App had beat Troy and lost to some other team, however, the round robin in this situation played itself out.

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That's it. The Sun Belt needs a 4-team playoff. Make it happen. We'll see you guys in a couple weeks.
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(11-26-2016 08:30 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  If we had a title game this year...App wouldn't be playing in it.

[Image: 1c4uye.jpg]

Au contraire. You'd be making travel plans to frigid Boone 03-wink
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(12-03-2016 04:08 PM)asucrutch23 Wrote:  
(11-26-2016 08:30 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  If we had a title game this year...App wouldn't be playing in it.

[Image: 1c4uye.jpg]

Au contraire. You'd be making travel plans to frigid Boone 03-wink

So what happened last time A-State had to play in Boone? 05-stirthepot
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(12-03-2016 04:19 PM)StAteRedWolf Wrote:  
(12-03-2016 04:08 PM)asucrutch23 Wrote:  
(11-26-2016 08:30 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  If we had a title game this year...App wouldn't be playing in it.

[Image: 1c4uye.jpg]

Au contraire. You'd be making travel plans to frigid Boone 03-wink

So what happened last time A-State had to play in Boone? 05-stirthepot

True, I guess we'd rather have it play in Jonesboro.
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(12-03-2016 04:20 PM)BurlingtonApp Wrote:  
(12-03-2016 04:19 PM)StAteRedWolf Wrote:  
(12-03-2016 04:08 PM)asucrutch23 Wrote:  
(11-26-2016 08:30 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  If we had a title game this year...App wouldn't be playing in it.

[Image: 1c4uye.jpg]

Au contraire. You'd be making travel plans to frigid Boone 03-wink

So what happened last time A-State had to play in Boone? 05-stirthepot

True, I guess we'd rather have it play in Jonesboro.

Weather wasn't an issue last time. Next saturday in Boone, the high is 21 and windy.
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(12-03-2016 04:08 PM)asucrutch23 Wrote:  
(11-26-2016 08:30 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  If we had a title game this year...App wouldn't be playing in it.

[Image: 1c4uye.jpg]

Au contraire. You'd be making travel plans to frigid Boone 03-wink

That's actually not for certain. The one thing we don't know is who would host if two teams tie for the same record without playing each other.
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