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I say 11. Ahead but of Purdue, Florida, Dook, and Baylor. UC won at ISU. Baylor didn't.
 
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Gonzaga falls to BYU.
 
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(02-26-2017 12:41 AM)The Big O Wrote:  Gonzaga falls to BYU.

Expect them to fall to 8th place. Duke, Kansas, UK, and UNC to round out the top 4 spots #Dukerising
 
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(02-26-2017 09:26 AM)Bearcatbdub Wrote:  
(02-26-2017 12:41 AM)The Big O Wrote:  Gonzaga falls to BYU.

Expect them to fall to 8th place. Duke, Kansas, UK, and UNC to round out the top 4 spots #Dukerising

Despite the name value those four have only Kansas and UNC are close to the 1 seed line, with UK most looking like a 2 or 3 seed at the moment. Duke is probably on their way to somewhere in the 4 through 6 spots. 4 losses to NCAA bubble type teams or worse.

I am not sure if Gonzaga stays on the 1 seed line even though they should. BYU now enters the conversation as an at-large candidate. Their AD is on the committee and that always matters in terms of selection and seeding.

I would prefer if the committee rewarded Vandy for their non-conference SOS (1) and punished Syracuse for theirs (177). Orange can't win away from home as they sit at 2-9.
 
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UNC only scored 43 in a loss vs. Virginia. Presented without comment.
 
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(02-27-2017 08:50 PM)FenderCat Wrote:  UNC only scored 43 in a loss vs. Virginia. Presented without comment.

It's so hard to force pace against teams that focus on not letting you. Virginia plays at the slowest pace in the country according to kenpom. UNC plays fast, but UVA just wouldn't let them run.
 
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(02-27-2017 08:50 PM)FenderCat Wrote:  UNC only scored 43 in a loss vs. Virginia. Presented without comment.

wonder if their fans were screaming at the coach and telling him he needs to bench their starting pg too?
 
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I've watched North Carolina a few times. I would guess they have very few games the offense scores under 60 (even road games), if any at all.

Granted, you're usually talking about one of the best teams in the nation. But, the competition is also notched up.

Personally, I look more for recurring themes, not outlier games.
 
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ESPN Bubble Watch 2/28/17

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/bubblewatch



SMU took longer to lock in than its actual performance on the court should have allowed. Which is to say: This team is so much better than its nitty-gritty sheet. The Mustangs are top-20 in adjusted efficiency margin and BPI; they have the American's most potent offense; they trail only Cincinnati on the defensive end. Semi Ojeleye, who might be the most slept-on star in college hoops, shoots 41.1 percent from 3-point territory, averages 18.2 points, 6.6 rebounds and 1.3 assists for one of the slowest teams in the country. (Sophomore guard Shake Milton is also quietly having a huge season.) The Mustangs' early losses to Michigan, USC and Boise State, lack of eye-popping wins, and the dearth of elite competition in the American, allowed them to skate by unnoticed for months. After 20 wins in 21 games, though, there's no chance they'll miss the tournament. Lock 'em in -- and pray they don't show up in your favorite team's path through the bracket.

Houston [20-8 (11-5), RPI: 54, SOS: 73] After Sunday's super-tight 72-71 win at Memphis, Houston is still in the mix, and it might be an interesting test case. It will be fascinating to see how the committee weighs a team like the Cougars, who are 20-8 overall and 11-5 in a mediocre American, versus a team like, say, Vanderbilt, which could end the season 16-15 overall and 9-9 in the SEC with wins over Iowa State, South Carolina, and Florida (in Gainesville). And, for Houston, determinative.




Rhode Island [19-9 (11-5), RPI: 42, SOS: 42] The Rhode Island Rams were the victors over the VCU Rams, which was definitely a boost to the former's odds of sneaking into the NCAA tournament. How much of a boost? As we wrote last week, beating VCU doesn't quite carry big-win cachet: Even before the loss, VCU was down in the No. 8-9-10 seed range, not all that far off the bubble itself. The victory at least adds a second top-50 win to pair alongside a Nov. 19 neutral-court win over Cincinnati. But with just four top-100 wins, and just Saint Joe's and Davidson remaining on the regular-season schedule, it will likely take a major push in the A-10 tournament for Rhode Island to really make a go of it. Saturday's win was really just a start.



Xavier [18-11 (8-8), RPI: 27, SOS: 10] In a vacuum, losing at home to Butler, even by a nonflattering margin, is not a big deal. In a vacuum, losing at home to Villanova is also not a big deal. Losing on the road at any one of Providence, Marquette or Seton Hall, in isolation, needs not be a big deal. The problem for Xavier is that the above losses are not in isolation or in a vacuum, but rather the components of a five-game losing streak since Feb. 11. Worse, the losing has largely coincided with the loss of guard Edmond Sumner, who accounted for 24.5 percent of the Musketeers' possessions before tearing his ACL. Throw in Trevon Bluiett's nagging injuries along the way, and it's clear that Chris Mack's team isn't playing anywhere near the level it was early in the season -- and the committee isn't shy about evaluating a team differently if its play falters after a significant injury. (Word to Robbie Hummel and Purdue.) In any case, the Musketeers should be buoyed somewhat by strong RPI and SOS numbers, but they need to avoid losses in their last two Big East games (versus Marquette, at DePaul) to avoid having some work to do in the Big East tourney.
 
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ISU #24 took out OSU.
 
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(03-01-2017 12:03 AM)doss2 Wrote:  ISU #24 took out OSU.

@ Iowa State now looks like Cincy's best win. The Cyclones recovery mid-season really helped. I'm trying to imagine UC's strength of schedule next year without ISU and Butler. We better hope that some AAC teams improve dramatically.
 
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(03-01-2017 08:16 AM)OKIcat Wrote:  
(03-01-2017 12:03 AM)doss2 Wrote:  ISU #24 took out OSU.

@ Iowa State now looks like Cincy's best win. The Cyclones recovery mid-season really helped. I'm trying to imagine UC's strength of schedule next year without ISU and Butler. We better hope that some AAC teams improve dramatically.

How is the OOC slate lining up? I know we have XU and two of UAB, Wyoming and Iowa... who else is on the schedule thus far?
 
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I'm thinking it's going to be really bad as Mick's been quite vocal that ESPN won't get us any matchups. (TV brokers most OOC matchups)
 
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(03-01-2017 09:24 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  
(03-01-2017 08:16 AM)OKIcat Wrote:  
(03-01-2017 12:03 AM)doss2 Wrote:  ISU #24 took out OSU.

@ Iowa State now looks like Cincy's best win. The Cyclones recovery mid-season really helped. I'm trying to imagine UC's strength of schedule next year without ISU and Butler. We better hope that some AAC teams improve dramatically.

How is the OOC slate lining up? I know we have XU and two of UAB, Wyoming and Iowa... who else is on the schedule thus far?

If we can't line up any P5 matchups. I would like to see the likes of Dayton, NKU (should be pretty decent next year), Wichita State, Akron and a holiday tournament. No reason why we can't get some better OOC matchups.
 
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You know what would help our OOC scheduling, win in March. If we make a final four this year, how could TV not want a marquee game involving us. People who know little about basketball would turn on the TV and say "hey, I remember this Cincinnati team, they were in the final four last year."
 
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(03-01-2017 10:04 AM)jarr Wrote:  holiday tournament. No reason why we can't get some better OOC matchups.
We're in the Cayman islands classic. Really mediocre field. We need a good elite 8 run so some of these networks will start to get us into good tournaments and good home and home matchups
 
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(03-01-2017 10:33 AM)RealDeal Wrote:  
(03-01-2017 10:04 AM)jarr Wrote:  holiday tournament. No reason why we can't get some better OOC matchups.
We're in the Cayman islands classic. Really mediocre field. We need a good elite 8 run so some of these networks will start to get us into good tournaments and good home and home matchups

Buffalo, South Dakota St., Richmond, and UL Lafayette are the "lower" division teams in this tourney. Any chance they play any of those teams on the lead up the Caymen games?
 
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(03-01-2017 10:33 AM)RealDeal Wrote:  
(03-01-2017 10:04 AM)jarr Wrote:  holiday tournament. No reason why we can't get some better OOC matchups.
We're in the Cayman islands classic. Really mediocre field. We need a good elite 8 run so some of these networks will start to get us into good tournaments and good home and home matchups

Buffalo Bulls (MAC) (Cayman Islands Classic via Twitter)
Cincinnati Bearcats (American)
Iowa Hawkeyes (Big Ten)
UL Lafayette Ragin' Cajuns (Sun Belt)
Richmond Spiders (A 10)
South Dakota State Jackrabbits (Summit)
UAB Blazers (C-USA)
Wyoming Cowboys (MW)
 
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(03-01-2017 10:45 AM)cincybb51 Wrote:  
(03-01-2017 10:33 AM)RealDeal Wrote:  
(03-01-2017 10:04 AM)jarr Wrote:  holiday tournament. No reason why we can't get some better OOC matchups.
We're in the Cayman islands classic. Really mediocre field. We need a good elite 8 run so some of these networks will start to get us into good tournaments and good home and home matchups

Buffalo Bulls (MAC) - 137
Cincinnati Bearcats (American)
Iowa Hawkeyes (Big Ten) - 91
UL Lafayette Ragin' Cajuns (Sun Belt) - 131
Richmond Spiders (A 10) - 93
South Dakota State Jackrabbits (Summit) - 205
UAB Blazers (C-USA) - 182
Wyoming Cowboys (MW) - 138

If this tourney replaces the likes of Brown, Samford, FDU, etc., then it's actually a step up and we get some neutral site games. The field isn't great, but there should be at least two or three other Top 100 teams in there. I wonder if the notion is to cut back on a few home games next year due to the move, and replace them with this. I wouldn't necessarily be opposed.
 
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In the original agreement we were supposed to travel to Michigan in the 17-18 season . But I guess thats out the window.

There have been rumblings of UK and Michigan St series but neither will give us a return game in Cincy.
 
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