25. Navy
21. Western Michigan
20. Houston
19. Boise State

The rest is complete bull$hit.

http://www.collegefootballplayoff.com/co...nking/2016

I saw Herbstreit whining that USC wasn't higher because they beat two teams in the Top 9 and everyone else hasn't beaten anyone (or something to that effect)..

Hello......

oklahoma state has loses to cmu and baylor

navy> baylor
smu> cmu

our wins> oklahoma states wins

they are 10 we are 20

(11-22-2016 07:15 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  25. Navy
21. Western Michigan
20. Houston
19. Boise State

The rest is complete bull$hit.

Its the bias if being in a G5 conference.

What bothers me is they are so obviously sandbagging Navy.. playing with their ranking, so it doesn't pass WMU - who they've already decided doesn't have the SOS to go any further.

(11-22-2016 07:26 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  What bothers me is they are so obviously sandbagging Navy.. playing with their ranking, so it doesn't pass WMU - who they've already decided doesn't have the SOS to go any further.

I think that notre dame game hurt navy. If they had blown them out it would have been good. But a one point win over a 4-7 team is not acceptable.

The fix is in. Houston has two Top 12 wins, but is behind Oklahoma even though they beat them. Crazy.

Which is why I've come to the conclusion that a G5 is blocked from the playoff. Houston at 9-2, is the only team in FBS to defeat 2 top 5 teams---yet is ranked 10 slots behind Oklahoma and Louisville---who are both 9-2 and were both defeated by Houston head-to-head. There is a bias at work. It effectively indicates that there is a 10 slot P5 bias that would block any G5 team from climbing any higher than #11. The committee has now been exposed as an illogical rigged P5 scam that has no credibility.

The system is totally broken. Fix it by making the committee 5 P5 members and 5 G5 members. Add a pair of unbiased reasonable outsiders like Tim Brando (no P5 concubines). That group will give a reasonable top 25 that is more logical with a better knowledge of the entire breadth of FBS. I doubt these guys have even watched a G5 game. If they had, WMU wouldn't be ranked in front of Navy.

(11-22-2016 07:26 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  What bothers me is they are so obviously sandbagging Navy.. playing with their ranking, so it doesn't pass WMU - who they've already decided doesn't have the SOS to go any further.

It would be a different story if Navy's only loss was to USF or Air Force. The two losses will make it so they cannot pass WMU if WMU is undefeated.

With that, I think Navy will have trouble this weekend.

(11-22-2016 07:33 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(11-22-2016 07:26 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  What bothers me is they are so obviously sandbagging Navy.. playing with their ranking, so it doesn't pass WMU - who they've already decided doesn't have the SOS to go any further.

I think that notre dame game hurt navy. If they had blown them out it would have been good. But a one point win over a 4-7 team is not acceptable.

Not buying it. Rivalry games are almost always close. At the end of the day, they beat a blue blood. That's a net positive for Navy.

(11-22-2016 07:39 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  

(11-22-2016 07:33 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(11-22-2016 07:26 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  What bothers me is they are so obviously sandbagging Navy.. playing with their ranking, so it doesn't pass WMU - who they've already decided doesn't have the SOS to go any further.

I think that notre dame game hurt navy. If they had blown them out it would have been good. But a one point win over a 4-7 team is not acceptable.

Not buying it. Rivalry games are almost always close. At the end of the day, they beat a blue blood. That's a net positive for Navy.

It doesnt matter who they beat they barely beat 4-7, by one point then they loss to air force by a big margin. Thats not a good look and its clearly showing in the rankings.

All 3 of Tulsa's losses are currently in the top 25.

(11-22-2016 07:37 PM)fanhood Wrote:  

(11-22-2016 07:26 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  What bothers me is they are so obviously sandbagging Navy.. playing with their ranking, so it doesn't pass WMU - who they've already decided doesn't have the SOS to go any further.

It would be a different story if Navy's only loss was to USF or Air Force. The two losses will make it so they cannot pass WMU if WMU is undefeated.

With that, I think Navy will have trouble this weekend.

There are tons of 2 loss teams in front of WMU. Hell, there is a 3-loss team ahead of them The issue is the massive unreasonable antiG5 bias and a significantly obvious ignorance of the G5 in general.

(11-22-2016 07:37 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Which is why I've come to the conclusion that a G5 is blocked from the playoff. Houston is 9-2, is the only team in FBS to defeat 2 top 5 teams---yet are ranked 10 slots behind Oklahoma and Louiville---who are both 9-2 and were both defeated by Houston head-to-head. There is the bias at work. It effectively indicates that there is a 10 slot P5 bias that would effectively blocks any G5 team from climbing any higher than #11. The committee has now been exposed as an illogical rigged P5 scam that has no credibility.

The system is totally broken. Fix it by making the committee 5 P5 members and 5 G5 members. Add a pair of unbiased reasonable outsiders like Tim Brando (no P5 concubines). That group will give a reasonable top 25 that is more logical with a better knowledge of the entire breadth of FBS. I doubt these guys have even watched many G5!games. If they had, WMU wouldn't be ranked in front of Navy.

I would agree that wmu should not be ahead of navy but unlike navy they are undefeated. No matter what conference you play in going undefeated is tough. Not to mention navy has that bad loss to airforce.

(11-22-2016 07:37 PM)fanhood Wrote:  

(11-22-2016 07:26 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  What bothers me is they are so obviously sandbagging Navy.. playing with their ranking, so it doesn't pass WMU - who they've already decided doesn't have the SOS to go any further.

It would be a different story if Navy's only loss was to USF or Air Force. The two losses will make it so they cannot pass WMU if WMU is undefeated.

With that, I think Navy will have trouble this weekend.

I think its obvious to most people who the better team is. These "rankings" are not even objective. They are overtly political.

Dan Wolken
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Meanwhile, is the committee really going to pretend that Boise State or Western Michigan is a better team than Navy?

https://twitter.com/DanWolken/status/799468214950522880

(11-22-2016 07:44 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  

(11-22-2016 07:37 PM)fanhood Wrote:  

(11-22-2016 07:26 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  What bothers me is they are so obviously sandbagging Navy.. playing with their ranking, so it doesn't pass WMU - who they've already decided doesn't have the SOS to go any further.

It would be a different story if Navy's only loss was to USF or Air Force. The two losses will make it so they cannot pass WMU if WMU is undefeated.

With that, I think Navy will have trouble this weekend.

I think its obvious to most people who the better team is. These "rankings" are not even objective. They are overtly political.

Dan Wolken
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‏@DanWolken
Meanwhile, is the committee really going to pretend that Boise State or Western Michigan is a better team than Navy?

https://twitter.com/DanWolken/status/799468214950522880

Its the g5 bias which sucks. Navy gave them the ammo to be bias by losing to air force, then limping by notre dame. Heck if they blew out notre dame i would argue that navy would be ranked ahead of us but they didn't. I

It's obvious if a team wants to get the high ranking they cannot give the committee any excuses.

(11-22-2016 07:44 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  

(11-22-2016 07:37 PM)fanhood Wrote:  

(11-22-2016 07:26 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  What bothers me is they are so obviously sandbagging Navy.. playing with their ranking, so it doesn't pass WMU - who they've already decided doesn't have the SOS to go any further.

It would be a different story if Navy's only loss was to USF or Air Force. The two losses will make it so they cannot pass WMU if WMU is undefeated.

With that, I think Navy will have trouble this weekend.

I think its obvious to most people who the better team is. These "rankings" are not even objective. They are overtly political.

Dan Wolken
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‏@DanWolken
Meanwhile, is the committee really going to pretend that Boise State or Western Michigan is a better team than Navy?

https://twitter.com/DanWolken/status/799468214950522880

Lol. Exactly. I'm telling you, I don't think the committees watched a single G5 game. Thier G5 analysis literally consists only of counting wins. A baboon could do a better job. The emperor has no clothes.

I've said all along the the playoff committee is not going to pick teams that do not travel well or fill stadiums. I never believed that would ever pick 2 ACC teams unless they were named FSU & Clemson. If at all possible they'll take a 2 loss Michigan or Ohio State over a one loss team from the BIG 12 or the PAC 12. The playoff committee is pressured by people wanting full stadiums and high TV ratings. ESPN didn't shell out millions to see Houston or NAVY in the Playoff.

(11-22-2016 07:43 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(11-22-2016 07:37 PM)fanhood Wrote:  

(11-22-2016 07:26 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  What bothers me is they are so obviously sandbagging Navy.. playing with their ranking, so it doesn't pass WMU - who they've already decided doesn't have the SOS to go any further.

It would be a different story if Navy's only loss was to USF or Air Force. The two losses will make it so they cannot pass WMU if WMU is undefeated.

With that, I think Navy will have trouble this weekend.

There are tons of 2 loss teams in front of WMU. Hell, there is a 3-loss team ahead of them The issue is the massive unreasonable antiG5 bias and a significantly obvious ignorance of the G5 in general.

You answered your own question. The AAC is a G5 conference with little respect outside of the AAC.

(11-22-2016 07:56 PM)fanhood Wrote:  

(11-22-2016 07:43 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(11-22-2016 07:37 PM)fanhood Wrote:  

(11-22-2016 07:26 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  What bothers me is they are so obviously sandbagging Navy.. playing with their ranking, so it doesn't pass WMU - who they've already decided doesn't have the SOS to go any further.

It would be a different story if Navy's only loss was to USF or Air Force. The two losses will make it so they cannot pass WMU if WMU is undefeated.

With that, I think Navy will have trouble this weekend.

There are tons of 2 loss teams in front of WMU. Hell, there is a 3-loss team ahead of them The issue is the massive unreasonable antiG5 bias and a significantly obvious ignorance of the G5 in general.

You answered your own question. The AAC is a G5 conference with little respect outside of the AAC.

It's getting to the point that I don't believe respect has anything to do with it. It's more of a prejudice. Take those coaches in the coaches poll for instance. Ask them who they do and don't want to play. They know who the good teams are, whether they'll acknowledge it or not.