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Minutes breakdown thru 3 games
Sorry for all the threads today, but with 4 long days until our next game, there's much to discuss in that span!

Below is our minutes breakdown, as well as my thoughts on what we can glean from it and where I think we're headed:

Minutes:

Bryce: 35.7 mpg
Flemmings: 34.7
Cacok: 31.0
Ingram: 31.0
Richmond: 26.0
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Mosley: 18.7
Fornes: 12.0*
Ogbodo: 11.5*
Bryan: 11.0
Elmore: 7.0*
Powell: 7.0*
Talley: 0.0*

* = Did not play against ETSU


My thoughts:

* I suspect the minutes will come down for Bryce and Flemmings by necessity. Both are in the top 100 in minutes/game nationally, and their minutes just aren't sustainable. 31-32 sounds about right for both, especially in the upcoming Nashville tournament where the team will have 3 games in 3 days.

* The ETA of Jordon Talley's return is not yet known, but it sure would be nice if he comes available this weekend. My guess is he'll only get limited run whenever he does make his return; somewhere in the neighborhood of 10-12 minutes per game sounds about right to start out. Long-term, it's not hard to see where he fits in on the depth chart. Richmond and Ingram are our top 2 point guards right now. So that means Talley's presence will really be most needed when we get into foul trouble, and also to ensure Jaylen Fornes doesn't need to be rushed into significant action like he was against EKU (In 9 minutes, he had 0 points, 2 turnovers and 2 fouls). It's kind of amazing that Talley, so indispensable his freshman year, is somewhat of an afterthought these days.

* I don't foresee Cacok's minutes coming down anytime soon. Even when Marcus Bryan sees the floor, several times he's been paired with Devontae down low. The entire reason Keatts tended to only use one "5" at a time his first 2 seasons with UNCW, with Gettys, Cacok, Bryan and Chuck taking turns at the spot, was that he didn't have a big who could run the floor AND handle heavy minutes. Well, Cacok has proven more than capable of doing both in his Sophomore campaign. Thus, when Bryan enters, we don't lose a ton in the way of overall team speed compared to when Flemmings is at the 4 and Cacok at the 5. Meanwhile, Chuck has been mostly a non-factor, which is not altogether surprising. Keatts didn't recruit Chuck and both Cacok and Bryan have multiple years left in teal, whereas Chuck will be gone next season.

* It was good to see Richmond enter the starting lineup against ETSU. Mosley seems like a better option to come off the bench, and while it was disappointing he only received 10 minutes of run against ETSU, I imagine he'll have an expanded role over time. The Seahawks are struggling overall from the perimeter so far this season, but that can't be expected to continue much longer. Eventually the aerial assault from distance will begin this season, and Mosley will be a big part of that.

* Whereas in his first 2 seasons, Coach Keatts kept the bench pretty long early in seasons, he's already settled into a rotation of 7-8 so far this season. That's not good for the likes of Elmore, Chuck, or Fornes, but it IS good news for our offensive rhythm. When Talley returns we'll be in that "sweet spot" of 8 guys, occasionally 9, that suits a team with defined roles.
(This post was last modified: 11-21-2016 07:10 PM by Seahawk Nation 08.)
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RE: Minutes breakdown thru 3 games
Most of our players get a year under their belt practicing the "keatts system" before they become key players during games. It's one of the big advantages of transfers who have to sit out a year. The only two with major minutes their first years have been Talley and Bryce. The rest have pretty much warmed the bench, then moved into more playing time. So, the slower progress of Fornes and Elmore is no real surprise.

A huge miss on transfers(imo) was the grad transfer Washington out of WFU. He is at ECU and is killing it so far. A mobile 7 footer, he would have been ideal at UNCW. Not sure how hard we went after him, or if we had a chance, but pairing him and Cacok in the post would have been unfair....
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RE: Minutes breakdown thru 3 games
(11-21-2016 07:38 PM)82hawk Wrote:  A huge miss on transfers(imo) was the grad transfer Washington out of WFU. He is at ECU and is killing it so far. A mobile 7 footer, he would have been ideal at UNCW. Not sure how hard we went after him, or if we had a chance, but pairing him and Cacok in the post would have been unfair....

I'm just gonna go ahead and assume ECU was a better fit for him academically. There's no way Keatts would have let this guy slip otherwise.
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RE: Minutes breakdown thru 3 games
Mosley is still nursing a leg injury. Keatts wants to make sure it is completely healed before he gives him more time on the floor. Plans are to work Talley in probably the last part of the weekend. Fornes is still needing a little more grooming.
I think the extra fresh bodies will be needed the most, not only in the third game in three days, but for the quick turnaround. The team finishes on Sunday and then play at Western Michigan on Wednesday, then back home for Pfeiffer on Saturday. That's 5 games in 9 days.
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(11-21-2016 07:46 PM)SEA33HAWK Wrote:  Mosley is still nursing a leg injury. Keatts wants to make sure it is completely healed before he gives him more time on the floor. Plans are to work Talley in probably the last part of the weekend. Fornes is still needing a little more grooming.
I think the extra fresh bodies will be needed the most, not only in the third game in three days, but for the quick turnaround. The team finishes on Sunday and then play at Western Michigan on Wednesday, then back home for Pfeiffer on Saturday. That's 5 games in 9 days.

Awesome, thanks for the updates!
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RE: Minutes breakdown thru 3 games
(11-21-2016 07:38 PM)82hawk Wrote:  Most of our players get a year under their belt practicing the "keatts system" before they become key players during games. It's one of the big advantages of transfers who have to sit out a year. The only two with major minutes their first years have been Talley and Bryce. The rest have pretty much warmed the bench, then moved into more playing time. So, the slower progress of Fornes and Elmore is no real surprise.

A huge miss on transfers(imo) was the grad transfer Washington out of WFU. He is at ECU and is killing it so far. A mobile 7 footer, he would have been ideal at UNCW. Not sure how hard we went after him, or if we had a chance, but pairing him and Cacok in the post would have been unfair....

I said it before and I will stick to this,Elmore is not a good fit for a Keatts style team-don't see him on the court here. I understand that Fornes is pretty good and will adjust to the speed of the game.
Cacok has really started fast this season and I think will just get better. One of the coaches told me this summer that he was really killing people in practice and that has been the case.
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