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RE: BEVERLY DAVENPORT SELECTED AS UNIVERSITY OF TENNESSEE CHANCELLOR
(11-22-2016 09:58 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  
(11-22-2016 09:38 AM)BearcatsUC Wrote:  
(11-22-2016 09:34 AM)crex043 Wrote:  
(11-22-2016 05:33 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  Don't buy she was passed over due to her gender. She was likely passed over because UC is looking for someone with a STEM background.

How dare you offer a reasonable explanation for this in this forum instead of providing a polarized political statement.

I don't think anyone was asserting that Davenport was passed over due to her gender. Mostly, people were asserting the only reason she's here is because of her gender, a point that's most likely not true.

I don't know what the inner workings of the search process are, but it's entirely plausible that UC is focused on someone with STEM experience. Let's face it, the liberal arts aren't exactly where UC is its strongest, and I'm sure they want to grow the research enterprise.

Can I get a link to someone saying she was only here due to gender? The only thing I have seen over numerous threads is that some people did not care for her because she wore her politics on her sleeve. Personally I think a university president needs to be mum about their political causes so as not to alienate potential donors/partners--- Dr. Ono, who likely is lock-step with her world view, was very good at dealing with people from all political spectrums.

Go to page two of this very thread. Two posters agree the only reason UT wants her is because Davenport is a woman. Another poster tells us the probability of the next prez not being a woman is 5%. Davenport's credentials are routinely criticized. Apparently a communications degree is not a real degree - a real discussion on this board from another time.

As they say, the only thing sure in life is death and taxes. Let me add another one: People on this board moaning everytime a woman or minority is hired. Just mention the name "Davenport," and it automatically becomes a rant against diversity.
 
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RE: BEVERLY DAVENPORT SELECTED AS UNIVERSITY OF TENNESSEE CHANCELLOR
(11-22-2016 10:46 AM)BearcatsUC Wrote:  
(11-22-2016 09:58 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  
(11-22-2016 09:38 AM)BearcatsUC Wrote:  
(11-22-2016 09:34 AM)crex043 Wrote:  
(11-22-2016 05:33 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  Don't buy she was passed over due to her gender. She was likely passed over because UC is looking for someone with a STEM background.

How dare you offer a reasonable explanation for this in this forum instead of providing a polarized political statement.

I don't think anyone was asserting that Davenport was passed over due to her gender. Mostly, people were asserting the only reason she's here is because of her gender, a point that's most likely not true.

I don't know what the inner workings of the search process are, but it's entirely plausible that UC is focused on someone with STEM experience. Let's face it, the liberal arts aren't exactly where UC is its strongest, and I'm sure they want to grow the research enterprise.

Can I get a link to someone saying she was only here due to gender? The only thing I have seen over numerous threads is that some people did not care for her because she wore her politics on her sleeve. Personally I think a university president needs to be mum about their political causes so as not to alienate potential donors/partners--- Dr. Ono, who likely is lock-step with her world view, was very good at dealing with people from all political spectrums.

Go to page two of this very thread. Two posters agree the only reason UT wants her is because Davenport is a woman. Another poster tells us the probability of the next prez not being a woman is 5%. Davenport's credentials are routinely criticized. Apparently a communications degree is not a real degree - a real discussion on this board from another time.

As they say, the only thing sure in life is death and taxes. Let me add another one: People on this board moaning everytime a woman or minority is hired. Just mentions the name "Davenport," and it automatically becomes a rant against diversity.

I think one could argue she has good credentials and is qualified to be a university president AND that her gender did give her a leg up at UT-- a school which may have made a conscious decision in response to several rape scandals.

With respects to her areas of academic scholarship, UC put its eggs in medicine, engineering, design, etc. The best fit for the job is someone with ties to those communities. A person with a Communications background like Dr. Davenport certainly might be the perfect fit at some other schools, but not here.

As to the poster saying the next president will be a woman, the university has intertwined Social Justice with the university mission the past couple of years. UC started an academic press this year which will be focused on Social Justice. The Chair of the BOT and of the presidential search committee let it be clear that the next president will be someone who is committed to Social Justice. Let's just say that someone like Joseph Steger or Raymond Walters couldn't even get to the interview phase today.
 
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RE: BEVERLY DAVENPORT SELECTED AS UNIVERSITY OF TENNESSEE CHANCELLOR
(11-22-2016 01:29 AM)digibrink Wrote:  
(11-21-2016 08:49 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  White males are too often hostile when non whites or non males are given equal opportunity for a job. Such is life in 2016 America. Congrats to Davenport on the new gig and thanks for her time here at uc.

Exactly correct. Davenport would have made a fantastic president but good for UT for hiring her.

The only people here complaining about her are probably Trump supporters and it goes along perfectly with their line of ass backwards thinking.

One measure of emotional and intellectual maturity is how one handles differing opinions and perspectives, whether political, religious etc. Your comment perhaps
reflects more on you than on others.
 
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(11-22-2016 11:06 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  With respects to her areas of academic scholarship, UC put its eggs in medicine, engineering, design, etc. The best fit for the job is someone with ties to those communities.

Agree. We need someone to maintain our position in these programs. We also need someone who will build up the other programs at UC as these are what are currently are pulling down our academic rank.
 
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Let's face it, the liberal arts aren't exactly where UC is its strongest, and I'm sure they want to grow the research enterprise.

Guess you've never heard of CCM or DAA!!!!!
 
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CCM is like a separate school. That's how they like it.
 
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(11-22-2016 01:59 PM)bearcat72 Wrote:  Let's face it, the liberal arts aren't exactly where UC is its strongest, and I'm sure they want to grow the research enterprise.

Guess you've never heard of CCM or DAA!!!!!

I would argue that even in DAAP and CCM, the strongest programs are pre-professional - they are geared towards gaining a specific job, a specialized field, like architecture, interior design, musical theater, or conducting. While the College of Arts and Sciences has some ranked programs, they do not carry the prestige of UC's other colleges.

"Liberal Arts" tends to be geared towards a general broad based knowledge that is intended enable critical thinking:

"What is a Liberal Arts Education?

Working towards a baccalaureate degree in the Arts or Sciences involves taking courses in what are traditionally referred to as the "liberal" arts. This means that your courses will be in general areas of study--philosophy, mathematics, literature, art history, economics, languages, and so on--rather than in applied or specialized fields. A liberal arts education is not intended to train you for a specific job, though it does prepare you for the world of work by providing you with an invaluable set of employability skills, including the ability to think for yourself, the skills to communicate effectively, and the capacity for lifelong learning.



What Will I Study as Part of an Arts Education?

You will study a variety of subjects, looking at the world and its people from various points of view. You will learn about ideas and beliefs that have guided human beings and shaped civilizations for thousands of years. What does it mean to be human? What have humans done, thought about, and felt? What is truth and beauty, and what are their value to life? How have we been shaped by, and how have we shaped, our physical and natural environment? What skills, methods or techniques can be used to examine the world and its people? These are some of the key questions examined by the Arts disciplines.

A liberal arts education is by nature broad and diverse, rather than narrow and specialized. Choosing courses from many disciplines gives you a wide and useful education. In the first year, an Arts student normally takes a variety of introductory courses. This not only gives you a wide knowledge of subjects but helps you to choose certain areas for further study. In most cases, you will be encouraged to take courses in at least some of the major categories within the liberal arts: Humanities (English Literature, Modern Languages, History, Philosophy), Social Sciences (Anthropology, Economics, Geography, Political Science, Sociology), Creative Arts (Fine Art, Theatre, Speech, Creative Writing), and the Sciences. At the same time, Arts programs usually allow for some degree of specialization in a Major discipline or in a group of thematically-linked courses. By concentrating on a given subject, whatever it may be, you will go beyond the mere surface of things and gain a solid grasp of the core material in a given area."

http://www.uni.edu/reineke/whystudyla.htm
 
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(11-21-2016 08:49 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  White males are too often hostile when non whites or non males are given equal opportunity for a job. Such is life in 2016 America. Congrats to Davenport on the new gig and thanks for her time here at uc.


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(11-22-2016 05:33 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  Don't buy she was passed over due to her gender. She was likely passed over because UC is looking for someone with a STEM background.

Nobody said she was. Our point was there is open hostility towards the very idea of a women or minority candidate from too many. I'd like to see uc look outside so I'm fine that she won't be the next president but i think her new role shows she was qualified and wouldn't have just been some mythical diversity hire which too many immediately jump to when a white male isn't hired.
 
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There is only "open hostility" if that is a criteria for hiring or cutting other candidates.

I'll be absolutely shocked if they do not hire an African American to fill the spot.
 
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(11-22-2016 12:34 PM)Major ----de Coverley Wrote:  
(11-22-2016 01:29 AM)digibrink Wrote:  
(11-21-2016 08:49 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  White males are too often hostile when non whites or non males are given equal opportunity for a job. Such is life in 2016 America. Congrats to Davenport on the new gig and thanks for her time here at uc.

Exactly correct. Davenport would have made a fantastic president but good for UT for hiring her.

The only people here complaining about her are probably Trump supporters and it goes along perfectly with their line of ass backwards thinking.

One measure of emotional and intellectual maturity is how one handles differing opinions and perspectives, whether political, religious etc. Your comment perhaps
reflects more on you than on others.

Disagreeing on opinions and perspectives is one thing. Openly supporting racism or sexism or supporting a candidate that openly supports racism and sexism is completely different.
 
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(11-23-2016 05:26 PM)digibrink Wrote:  
(11-22-2016 12:34 PM)Major ----de Coverley Wrote:  
(11-22-2016 01:29 AM)digibrink Wrote:  
(11-21-2016 08:49 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  White males are too often hostile when non whites or non males are given equal opportunity for a job. Such is life in 2016 America. Congrats to Davenport on the new gig and thanks for her time here at uc.

Exactly correct. Davenport would have made a fantastic president but good for UT for hiring her.

The only people here complaining about her are probably Trump supporters and it goes along perfectly with their line of ass backwards thinking.

One measure of emotional and intellectual maturity is how one handles differing opinions and perspectives, whether political, religious etc. Your comment perhaps
reflects more on you than on others.

Disagreeing on opinions and perspectives is one thing. Openly supporting racism or sexism or supporting a candidate that openly supports racism and sexism is completely different.

All I can say is that Davenport did a HORRIBLE job doin "Down the Drive" before one of our home games. Ono made himself the face of the university. I have not seen Davenport in any way out and front as a face of the university.
 
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(11-22-2016 05:27 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  
(11-22-2016 05:33 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  Don't buy she was passed over due to her gender. She was likely passed over because UC is looking for someone with a STEM background.

Nobody said she was. Our point was there is open hostility towards the very idea of a women or minority candidate from too many. I'd like to see uc look outside so I'm fine that she won't be the next president but i think her new role shows she was qualified and wouldn't have just been some mythical diversity hire which too many immediately jump to when a white male isn't hired.

Where?
UC's diversity plan is to hire, retain and promote anyone who is not a white male.
https://www.uc.edu/content/dam/uc/divers...1-2016.pdf
 
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Davenport supports biased opportunity and biased outcomes. I support equal opportunity. A typical elitest liberal academic.
 
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(11-23-2016 06:18 PM)doss2 Wrote:  Davenport supports biased opportunity and biased outcomes. I support equal opportunity. A typical elitest liberal academic.

Is it not nice to watch Kellyanne Conway in action and know there is at least one woman who was successful on pure merit. She likely accomplished what no other could have done.
 
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(11-23-2016 06:32 PM)Bcatbog Wrote:  
(11-23-2016 06:18 PM)doss2 Wrote:  Davenport supports biased opportunity and biased outcomes. I support equal opportunity. A typical elitest liberal academic.

Is it not nice to watch Kellyanne Conway in action and know there is at least one woman who was successful on pure merit. She likely accomplished what no other could have done.
She is a star. She did the job and deserves all the respect!

During my career I hired a lot of women and encourage every one to get a degree or masters and promoted them. I was proud that many of them did.
 
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