And to those who think costs in higher education will ever come under control, there's this kind of stuff.

It's not that someone or a few couldn't come up with money to eat the contractual commitments. It's the ease of making these kinds of decisions and arrangements. These places don't understand how money works, just that they need a lot of it and have to spend it.

He's probably already been fired, and told of the decision, but will coach the finale against TCU.

For the first time in my life I'm looking forward to watching the Longhorn Network. Tomorrow's press conference will air live. Should be some pretty good stuff.

(11-20-2016 04:50 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  

(11-19-2016 09:22 PM)Tigersmoke3 Wrote:  Strong to uconn!

Strong is more of a northeast guy, imho, so actually that's not a bad idea.

He's coached mainly in the south-He's been at Florida, Oklahoma, Texas A&M and Texas.

(11-20-2016 07:29 PM)The Cutter of Bish Wrote:  And to those who think costs in higher education will ever come under control, there's this kind of stuff.

It's not that someone or a few couldn't come up with money to eat the contractual commitments. It's the ease of making these kinds of decisions and arrangements. These places don't understand how money works, just that they need a lot of it and have to spend it.

Texas athletics sends more than $10 million a year back to the academic side. You don't understand how Texas athletics works, although your comment may not be off base at other places.

(11-20-2016 02:17 PM)bullet Wrote:  Charlie was doomed to fail because he is a horrible game day coach who makes really bad assistant decisions as well. Other than Les Miles, I have never seen a coach make such stupid game day decisions in such a high level position. One time the officials had to talk him out of declining a penalty as declining it gave the other team a first down. There have been repeated game management failures such as clock management and getting the plays in. I'm not sure I've ever seen a team look more stupid. They simply are so poorly coached they don't know what they are supposed to do. The defense, his specialty, has regressed.

I believe he has let go all but two of his original assistants. When he brought the crew in, most of us were wondering what he was thinking.

Yet he succeeded at Louisville with less resources.

(11-19-2016 07:34 PM)bronconick Wrote:  They'll pick those out of couch cushions. 1st loss to Kansas in 78 years.

I watched the end on ABC and I was rooting hard for Kansas. Nothing against Strong but I wanted and loved watching Kansas pull off the miracle. I'll admit it was moving watching the interview on the field with the KU coach after the game. He and his players were very emotional. They deserved the win, even if they got a little lucky. It's what college football is all about. A 1 win team giving their all to beat a blue blood in November. I love this sport.
Cheers!

(11-20-2016 09:48 PM)RutgersGuy Wrote:  

(11-20-2016 02:17 PM)bullet Wrote:  Charlie was doomed to fail because he is a horrible game day coach who makes really bad assistant decisions as well. Other than Les Miles, I have never seen a coach make such stupid game day decisions in such a high level position. One time the officials had to talk him out of declining a penalty as declining it gave the other team a first down. There have been repeated game management failures such as clock management and getting the plays in. I'm not sure I've ever seen a team look more stupid. They simply are so poorly coached they don't know what they are supposed to do. The defense, his specialty, has regressed.

I believe he has let go all but two of his original assistants. When he brought the crew in, most of us were wondering what he was thinking.

Yet he succeeded at Louisville with less resources.

He had 2 great years with an experienced NFL level QB. Other than those 2 years he is a below 500 level coach. Most any coach can look pretty good with an experienced NFL quality QB. I'd call Charlie average at best. Keep in mind, there is only one other coach in the history of UT that finished under .500 during thier time in Austin. It's hard to be a sub-500 coach with all the resources and recruiting advantages UT offers---yet Strong has managed to finish under .500 in his 3 years in Austin.

Charlie is an honorable man---but he's simply not a good enough coach to deserve one of the top 2 or 3 college jobs in the country.

(11-20-2016 09:48 PM)RutgersGuy Wrote:  

(11-20-2016 02:17 PM)bullet Wrote:  Charlie was doomed to fail because he is a horrible game day coach who makes really bad assistant decisions as well. Other than Les Miles, I have never seen a coach make such stupid game day decisions in such a high level position. One time the officials had to talk him out of declining a penalty as declining it gave the other team a first down. There have been repeated game management failures such as clock management and getting the plays in. I'm not sure I've ever seen a team look more stupid. They simply are so poorly coached they don't know what they are supposed to do. The defense, his specialty, has regressed.

I believe he has let go all but two of his original assistants. When he brought the crew in, most of us were wondering what he was thinking.

Yet he succeeded at Louisville with less resources.

Teddy Bridgewater. And he was competing against a lower level of competition and not as strong a group of coaches or programs. He managed to lose some games he shouldn't at UL as well.

And he was only head coach there 3 years. His weaknesses may not have shown up yet.

(11-20-2016 10:14 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(11-19-2016 07:34 PM)bronconick Wrote:  They'll pick those out of couch cushions. 1st loss to Kansas in 78 years.

I watched the end on ABC and I was rooting hard for Kansas. Nothing against Strong but I wanted and loved watching Kansas pull off the miracle. I'll admit it was moving watching the interview on the field with the KU coach after the game. He and his players were very emotional. They deserved the win, even if they got a little lucky. It's what college football is all about. A 1 win team giving their all to beat a blue blood in November. I love this sport.
Cheers!

They earned it. Texas gave them some help. They got a couple of lucky calls on that drive to tie (targeting and no INT). But they kept fighting the whole time and it was clear the whole game they wanted it more.

(11-20-2016 09:48 PM)RutgersGuy Wrote:  

(11-20-2016 02:17 PM)bullet Wrote:  Charlie was doomed to fail because he is a horrible game day coach who makes really bad assistant decisions as well. Other than Les Miles, I have never seen a coach make such stupid game day decisions in such a high level position. One time the officials had to talk him out of declining a penalty as declining it gave the other team a first down. There have been repeated game management failures such as clock management and getting the plays in. I'm not sure I've ever seen a team look more stupid. They simply are so poorly coached they don't know what they are supposed to do. The defense, his specialty, has regressed.

I believe he has let go all but two of his original assistants. When he brought the crew in, most of us were wondering what he was thinking.

Yet he succeeded at Louisville with less resources.

Still trying to figure out that 2nd half UCF Meltdown in '13. Might have been undefeated.

(11-19-2016 08:20 PM)chess Wrote:  

(11-19-2016 08:06 PM)Lenvillecards Wrote:  Where does Strong go next? Houston?

He takes a year off.

Ultimately, he will wind up at NC State or South Carolina or Maryland or Rutgers or...

Nah, we're good

If he had been on the market last year then we might have been the landing spot.

(11-21-2016 09:16 AM)Gamecock Wrote:  

(11-19-2016 08:20 PM)chess Wrote:  

(11-19-2016 08:06 PM)Lenvillecards Wrote:  Where does Strong go next? Houston?

He takes a year off.

Ultimately, he will wind up at NC State or South Carolina or Maryland or Rutgers or...

Nah, we're good

If he had been on the market last year then we might have been the landing spot.

Chris Ash has at least 2 more years to show progress at Rutgers (and yes, before the anti-Rutgers, Rutgers doesn't deserve its spot in the Big 10 trolls start, that does mean simply winning against Indiana, Maryland, Purdue and Illinois).

When LSU takes Petrino, maybe strong can go back to Louisville

(11-20-2016 09:29 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(11-20-2016 07:29 PM)The Cutter of Bish Wrote:  And to those who think costs in higher education will ever come under control, there's this kind of stuff.

It's not that someone or a few couldn't come up with money to eat the contractual commitments. It's the ease of making these kinds of decisions and arrangements. These places don't understand how money works, just that they need a lot of it and have to spend it.

Texas athletics sends more than $10 million a year back to the academic side. You don't understand how Texas athletics works, although your comment may not be off base at other places.

I know their athletics make money. Even so, it doesn't cure stuff like this, and that is where my comments center. Especially stuff like this:

Quote:Revenue from the tuition increase will also allow us to recruit and retain top faculty members to work directly with students and help them receive a world-class education.

The retention part's the crusher. That's an endless conflict, and there is never enough money...

...even at Texas. Sure, athletics make money. That doesn't absolve it from other areas of financial responsibility and best practices, though. Having multiple salary lines for one role because of turnover and bad contract making is as much a problem to the school as faculty who hang better offers from better schools, too.

Just ask yourself why a school has to commit to money and years if it doesn't expect to honor its own deal. Why retention has to be built into this thing.

(11-21-2016 10:02 AM)shere khan Wrote:  When LSU takes Petrino, maybe strong can go back to Louisville

Maybe that "other woman" is still in waiting ! Trust Us , He won't be back.