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(12-23-2016 11:22 AM)NewTimes Wrote:  So Coach Sam, and McKay and Dot Richardson were not big name hires?

"Richardson is considered one of the most decorated collegiate, national and international players in softball history. She helped Team USA win Olympic gold in Atlanta in 1996 and Sydney in 2000, hitting the game-winning home run in the gold medal game in 1996." from http://www.liberty.edu/flames/index.cfm?...3&TeamID=2

Coach Sam everyone knows.

McKay did come as the Assistant HC from an ACC school and was a previous HC at LU and other schools.

Does everyone believe that the new AD's hire in FB is going to be a FCS coach such as Chadwell? I don't think so. I believe he will think the faster way to accelerate the program is with a high profile HC, an expansion of Williams Stadium, and a strong push to sign the skill player(s) (QB, RB) that other peer players will want to play with.

Sam was a big hire (and almost 30 years ago) and so was Gill. Richardson was a big hire in a sport nobody cares about.

McKay was not a big hire. He was a head coach at mid-major schools while not accomplishing much before coming to Liberty. Then he left to be an assistant coach, a clear downgrade, before coming back to Liberty.

Chadwell is a proven coach who gets results, much better than our current coach with much less resources. Who cares if that isn't mentioned on the bottom line of ESPN? It will be once Liberty starts winning and making the FCS playoffs. Then an FBS school will hire him away and make positive news for Liberty for a change. Liberty can spin it that they hired a big time FCS coach rather than a failed FBS coach who is dropping down a level who has a big name.

Do you think recruits wouldn't sign up to play for a good football coach? How do you think they are a good coach to begin with? We're losing fan interest even with a name coach right now and we won't build onto Williams Stadium until we go FBS per Jerry Jr.

Quote:Liberty has money which is one of the reasons they didn't get invited to the Sun Belt. Money is a consideration, but to say that is the reason LU did not receive an SBC invite because of that, gives no credence to the multitude of bad/improper/unwise actions, statements and inactions of the past and how that has branded LU as unappealing and unacceptable, except only to the LU faithful.

I didn't say it was the reason, I said it was a reason. The Sun Belt didn't like Liberty because we were private (can't change that), had a lot of money and was willing to outspend the rest of the poor conference (stupid logic on the Sun Belt's part), have a significant online presence (won't change that), and are conservative (won't change that). There are other things but I am pretty sure that is the majority of it.

Quote: Everyone wants North Dakota State to move up because they win. Same with the Montana schools. Those schools are appealing because they win and they have a strong, appealing perception. Would a 11-0 LU team be more appealing? Of course, but unlike NDS and MS, LU would still be perceived, because of the past, as the prettiest girl at the prom who no one wants to dance with.

If Liberty had half the history as those schools, and schools like App State and Georgia Southern, then Liberty would have a much better argument for discrimination than they currently do. FBS conferences can use Liberty's lack of success as a reason to not invite them and it's valid. Until Liberty takes away that by winning, making the March Madness tournament, College World Series, and FCS playoffs, then the FBS is justified in keeping Liberty down based on performance despite Liberty's willingness to compete at a higher level.
12-23-2016 03:35 PM
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http://www.espn.com/college-football/sto...uments-say

Not a good look for Liberty. Guess they should have done a little more homework on McCaw. Is it too late to fire him or is Jerry Jr. too busy working with President Trump to worry about Liberty?
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(02-02-2017 09:28 PM)GE and MTS Wrote:  http://www.espn.com/college-football/sto...uments-say

Not a good look for Liberty. Guess they should have done a little more homework on McCaw. Is it too late to fire him or is Jerry Jr. too busy working with President Trump to worry about Liberty?
Jerry Jr. is the reason that I 1) resigned as a Mod for this Liberty board, 2) withdrew my financial support as a Flames Club member, 3) did not renew my Flames Club membership, 4) have tempered my interest as I am conflicted wanting the athletics of LU to continue to develop and trying to resolve how to do it with the McBig Super Sized Ego of JFJr, and how it has hampered LU. One would have thought he would have learned from JFSr. and the mistakes he made and been wiser. Unfortunately that is not the case.
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