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That will be impressive if they are able to complete this project in 9 1/5 months. Looks like they are on pace to do just that.

For those that were concerned about the sturdiness of the pavilion, I think this should put some minds at ease:

Quote:“For the Pavilion, it has a deep foundation that goes down into bedrock. We basically drill a micro pile down to bedrock which is about 20-30 feet deep and we just started those this week in preparation for steel to be delivered. We should start going vertical in mid-January.”

(11-17-2016 12:27 PM)UABslant Wrote:  For those that were concerned about the sturdiness of the pavilion, I think this should put some minds at ease:

Quote:“For the Pavilion, it has a deep foundation that goes down into bedrock. We basically drill a micro pile down to bedrock which is about 20-30 feet deep and we just started those this week in preparation for steel to be delivered. We should start going vertical in mid-January.”

The questions about the sturdiness of the pavilion had nothing to do with its foundation structure. The concerns are about the top of the structure and how well it can hold together in high winds - tornadic or straight line. Has the builder stated any guarantee concerning the designed limits for such winds?

(11-17-2016 05:36 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:  

(11-17-2016 12:27 PM)UABslant Wrote:  For those that were concerned about the sturdiness of the pavilion, I think this should put some minds at ease:

Quote:“For the Pavilion, it has a deep foundation that goes down into bedrock. We basically drill a micro pile down to bedrock which is about 20-30 feet deep and we just started those this week in preparation for steel to be delivered. We should start going vertical in mid-January.”

The questions about the sturdiness of the pavilion had nothing to do with its foundation structure. The concerns are about the top of the structure and how well it can hold together in high winds - tornadic or straight line. Has the builder stated any guarantee concerning the designed limits for such winds?

The builder has said winds that will hold a ball up in the air will blow this pavilion away. Your obsession with the sturdiness of this pavilion blows my mind.

You've seen what tornadoes do to red brick structures, yes?

Yeah I was going to say there aren't a lot of structures that will stand up to strong, tornadic winds, pavilion or not, lol...

Will it survive an earthquake? What about an airplane crash?

What a weird thing to be concerned about.

Tornadoes are rated for intensity on a scale of Zero to 5, and B'ham has experienced straight line winds approaching three digit speeds. I asked if the builder had expressed a design limit for either, and all I get is sarcasm so I presume our design strategy is to cross our fingers and hope for no such winds.

Most public schools are "self insured" which generally means they reach into their own pockets (current state or private funding) to cover losses from any kind of damage or other losses.

(11-18-2016 02:02 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:  Tornadoes are rated for intensity on a scale of Zero to 5, and B'ham has experienced straight line winds approaching three digit speeds. I asked if the builder had expressed a design limit for either, and all I get is sarcasm so I presume our design strategy is to cross our fingers and hope for no such winds.

Most public schools are "self insured" which generally means they reach into their own pockets (current state or private funding) to cover losses from any kind of damage or other losses.

You do realize that the foundation of a structure has a ton to do with its sturdiness, correct? I used to live down by the bjcc, and there were pavilions down there covering basketball courts. None of those blew away in the five years I was there. If you are getting wind speeds like the ones you are discussing, we probably have better things to worry about than if our covered facility would hold up.

I would assume that the builder of this structure is well aware of the weather in the area. I also assume this has been taken into account in the design. You are acting like we are putting a tent up and hoping it doesn't fall. The city of Birmingham and UAB are not going to allow a large structure to be built in an area with so many people if it could just float away one day. Outside of a tornado hitting it directly I doubt we have anything to worry about. That is why you are getting sarcastic responses.

It's kinda like asking a master chef if they seasoned the food... They are the experts and surely posters on this board are not the only people thought of this issue. I would be the good people at Legacy Credit Union have also asked these questions, being that they are footing the bill for most of it.

(11-18-2016 02:02 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:  Tornadoes are rated for intensity on a scale of Zero to 5, and B'ham has experienced straight line winds approaching three digit speeds. I asked if the builder had expressed a design limit for either, and all I get is sarcasm so I presume our design strategy is to cross our fingers and hope for no such winds.

Most public schools are "self insured" which generally means they reach into their own pockets (current state or private funding) to cover losses from any kind of damage or other losses.

Or you can do like the rest of us and take it on faith that those doing the design and build know what the hell they're doing.

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I love how one person can ask a question, almost everybody agrees the question is barely relevant (at best)...and it still takes over the thread

The drlesign is to the wind standards in this region. Just like any other building that is designed here.

(11-18-2016 08:29 PM)Smaug Wrote:  

(11-18-2016 02:02 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:  Tornadoes are rated for intensity on a scale of Zero to 5, and B'ham has experienced straight line winds approaching three digit speeds. I asked if the builder had expressed a design limit for either, and all I get is sarcasm so I presume our design strategy is to cross our fingers and hope for no such winds.

Most public schools are "self insured" which generally means they reach into their own pockets (current state or private funding) to cover losses from any kind of damage or other losses.

Or you can do like the rest of us and take it on faith that those doing the design and build know what the hell they're doing.

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The folks who drove on the I-35W bridge in MN thought that way too. I simply asked what level of wind speed the pavilion was designed to bear without damage.

(11-20-2016 02:16 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:  

(11-18-2016 08:29 PM)Smaug Wrote:  

(11-18-2016 02:02 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:  Tornadoes are rated for intensity on a scale of Zero to 5, and B'ham has experienced straight line winds approaching three digit speeds. I asked if the builder had expressed a design limit for either, and all I get is sarcasm so I presume our design strategy is to cross our fingers and hope for no such winds.

Most public schools are "self insured" which generally means they reach into their own pockets (current state or private funding) to cover losses from any kind of damage or other losses.

Or you can do like the rest of us and take it on faith that those doing the design and build know what the hell they're doing.

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The folks who drove on the I-35W bridge in MN thought that way too. I simply asked what level of wind speed the pavilion was designed to bear without damage.

It'll be up to code. Is there a chance a storm comes through and blows it away? Yep, sure is. There's also a chance a storm comes through that will blow away UAB Hospital. **** happens. Chill out about the sturdiness of the practice facility. Insurance is a thing that exists.

Drive to Sloss Furnace.

Look at the casting sheds.

They have been there over 100 years.

Thank you all for your concerns.

As long as they didn't hire the guy who made the first Blaze statue, we should be ok.