(11-16-2016 11:09 PM)RutgersGuy Wrote:  

(11-16-2016 08:08 PM)rednblackattack Wrote:  Sounds like Wake was the guilty party here. Hope Jurich says something publicly

So now you all have spun it to where Wake owes Louisville an apology? hahahahahaha

I bet it angers you so much to see Louisville and West Virginia being highly successful in their respective leagues. Rutgers is an absolute embarrassment and in no way should be labeled a P5 team. Cash your Big Ten welfare check and be grateful for it.

Even if it were proven that someone from Louisville actually stole the WF game plan, this would still be much ado about nothing.

I Kept waiting for Darth Vader to make an appearance !

(11-17-2016 06:05 AM)rednblackattack Wrote:  

(11-16-2016 11:09 PM)RutgersGuy Wrote:  

(11-16-2016 08:08 PM)rednblackattack Wrote:  Sounds like Wake was the guilty party here. Hope Jurich says something publicly

So now you all have spun it to where Wake owes Louisville an apology? hahahahahaha

I bet it angers you so much to see Louisville and West Virginia being highly successful in their respective leagues. Rutgers is an absolute embarrassment and in no way should be labeled a P5 team. Cash your Big Ten welfare check and be grateful for it.

Pittsburgh with Narduzzi is on the upswing as well...a coach many Rutgers ppl wanted....

(11-16-2016 02:09 PM)WakeForestRanger Wrote:  I don't care what Louisville did or did not do. But it's seriously out of character for Wake Forest to make this kind of allegation. If it causes Louisville to be left out of the play off that is taking money out of our own pocket.

Sounds like it's all good now. Sometimes an amazingly prepared game plan may look like something else. Only "breach" may have been etiquette in accusations. Time to move on and try to limit embarrassment.

(11-17-2016 07:42 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  Even if it were proven that someone from Louisville actually stole the WF game plan, this would still be much ado about nothing.

I disagree. If someone from Louisville stole the WF playbook it would cause a BIG problem within the league because of who the two parties are in this case.

That said, we know just a little bit more than nothing. Here's a question for you - say a fan or booster lifts the WF playbook and drops it in your lap - what do you do if you are Louisville? You didn't ask for it, now you have it. I can assure you WF expects you to return the book and rat out who did it 'cause that's how they roll. Now, what if you have a stock of playbooks from the entire conference that you have accumulated over the years and update them as opposition research and you did nothing this year. Meaning, what if the "playbook" is old?

There's a lot unknown. But like I said, it the parties that matter. If it were FSU and Clemson, or UNC and Duke involved it would have much different optics.

(11-17-2016 11:21 AM)lumberpack4 Wrote:  

(11-17-2016 07:42 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  Even if it were proven that someone from Louisville actually stole the WF game plan, this would still be much ado about nothing.

I disagree. If someone from Louisville stole the WF playbook it would cause a BIG problem within the league because of who the two parties are in this case.

That said, we know just a little bit more than nothing. Here's a question for you - say a fan or booster lifts the WF playbook and drops it in your lap - what do you do if you are Louisville? You didn't ask for it, now you have it.

First, I know a lot of people would have a problem with UL stealing the playbook, but I wouldn't. To me, espionage is just part of the game. It's your job to protect your playbook.

Second, if I were UL, I'd look it over, then turn it over to WF saying it just fell into our lap anonymously (wouldn't rat anyone out) and we didn't look at it.

Doesn't matter, because WF will have to assume UL looked at it anyway, and they would have to change the game plan.

UL is an easy target right now. Petrino and Pitino are both slimy and you can level an accusation with the expectation that it might be true. May not be fair, but unfortunately accurate.

Winning covers an awful lot of missteps.

Damn shame, as Jurich has run a very good Athletic Department during his tenure. Re-hiring Petrino was a bit of a jaw dropper, but winning covers an awful lot.

(11-17-2016 11:45 AM)megadrone Wrote:  UL is an easy target right now. Petrino and Pitino are both slimy and you can level an accusation with the expectation that it might be true. May not be fair, but unfortunately accurate.

Winning covers an awful lot of missteps.

But ... it's not, not really. Both UL's football and basketball programs are firing on all cylinders right now, but the slime is still very much evident and talked about.

On this issue, though, I don't see any problem with anything UL has done.

(11-16-2016 09:03 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  I like Louisville and their fans...but Petrino really pissed me off when they played us. His players' seemed to only get cramps when we were on offense and driving. Only his defense got cramps that day...cheap tactic.

But it was really hot in there....

Yeah that was blatant, and some of our fans got mad when we were called out for it. But it was obvious it was pre-planned. Especially when guys with these "severe" cramps would mysteriously heal after one play. Or one guy who forgot which leg he was holding while he was on the ground, and limped off on the other leg.

(11-17-2016 06:05 AM)rednblackattack Wrote:  

(11-16-2016 11:09 PM)RutgersGuy Wrote:  

(11-16-2016 08:08 PM)rednblackattack Wrote:  Sounds like Wake was the guilty party here. Hope Jurich says something publicly

So now you all have spun it to where Wake owes Louisville an apology? hahahahahaha

I bet it angers you so much to see Louisville and West Virginia being highly successful in their respective leagues. Rutgers is an absolute embarrassment and in no way should be labeled a P5 team. Cash your Big Ten welfare check and be grateful for it.

It's too bad we hired someone from Louisville and they set our athletic program back.

So funny how quickly you forget about the Steve Kragthorpe era and how quickly Louisville can be at the bottom of the barrel. Better hope Petrino doesn't leave you again.

(11-17-2016 01:34 PM)RutgersGuy Wrote:  

(11-17-2016 06:05 AM)rednblackattack Wrote:  

(11-16-2016 11:09 PM)RutgersGuy Wrote:  

(11-16-2016 08:08 PM)rednblackattack Wrote:  Sounds like Wake was the guilty party here. Hope Jurich says something publicly

So now you all have spun it to where Wake owes Louisville an apology? hahahahahaha

I bet it angers you so much to see Louisville and West Virginia being highly successful in their respective leagues. Rutgers is an absolute embarrassment and in no way should be labeled a P5 team. Cash your Big Ten welfare check and be grateful for it.

It's too bad we hired someone from Louisville and they set our athletic program back.

So funny how quickly you forget about the Steve Kragthorpe era and how quickly Louisville can be at the bottom of the barrel. Better hope Petrino doesn't leave you again.

Why can JH thrive at UofL and struggle at Rutgers? That's a question you should ask yourself.

BTW, as long as we have a Jurich or a Jurich appointment at the helm, we will be fine.

(11-17-2016 01:34 PM)RutgersGuy Wrote:  So funny how quickly you forget about the Steve Kragthorpe era and how quickly Louisville can be at the bottom of the barrel. Better hope Petrino doesn't leave you again.

16 winning seasons in the last 19 years. The three Krags years from 2007-2009 are the years Louisville was .500 or worse. That covers five coaching tenures so clearly there are program resources and support for a winning program, barring a disaster of a coach such has Krags.

Louisville certainly won't be top 5 every season of course, but on the other hand I'm not concerned about losing conference games by 60 or 80 points real soon.

(11-17-2016 01:34 PM)RutgersGuy Wrote:  

(11-17-2016 06:05 AM)rednblackattack Wrote:  

(11-16-2016 11:09 PM)RutgersGuy Wrote:  

(11-16-2016 08:08 PM)rednblackattack Wrote:  Sounds like Wake was the guilty party here. Hope Jurich says something publicly

So now you all have spun it to where Wake owes Louisville an apology? hahahahahaha

I bet it angers you so much to see Louisville and West Virginia being highly successful in their respective leagues. Rutgers is an absolute embarrassment and in no way should be labeled a P5 team. Cash your Big Ten welfare check and be grateful for it.

It's too bad we hired someone from Louisville and they set our athletic program back.

So funny how quickly you forget about the Steve Kragthorpe era and how quickly Louisville can be at the bottom of the barrel. Better hope Petrino doesn't leave you again.

What are you ranked Nationally and how is the Big 10 working for you?

(11-17-2016 02:31 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  

(11-17-2016 01:34 PM)RutgersGuy Wrote:  

(11-17-2016 06:05 AM)rednblackattack Wrote:  

(11-16-2016 11:09 PM)RutgersGuy Wrote:  

(11-16-2016 08:08 PM)rednblackattack Wrote:  Sounds like Wake was the guilty party here. Hope Jurich says something publicly

So now you all have spun it to where Wake owes Louisville an apology? hahahahahaha

I bet it angers you so much to see Louisville and West Virginia being highly successful in their respective leagues. Rutgers is an absolute embarrassment and in no way should be labeled a P5 team. Cash your Big Ten welfare check and be grateful for it.

It's too bad we hired someone from Louisville and they set our athletic program back.

So funny how quickly you forget about the Steve Kragthorpe era and how quickly Louisville can be at the bottom of the barrel. Better hope Petrino doesn't leave you again.

What are you ranked Nationally and how is the Big 10 working for you?

Academically? Higher than the second most popular school in the state of Kentucky. The Big Ten is a great conference and we love being there. I mean whats not to love about getting some of the biggest names in college football coming to your house every other year. Michigan, Michigan State, Penn State and THE Ohio State. I mean thats pretty cool. Playing those teams and getting paid waaaaaaay more than we would if we were in the ACC will help us in the long run. Just enjoy Petrino while you can. He tends to have wandering eyes.

I don't get why programs such as Rutgers should get a huge check every year for sucking so bad. I'm sure the Big boys in the league love giving Rutgers a welfare check. BTW who does Rutgirls lose by 60 to this weekend?

(11-17-2016 04:15 PM)RutgersGuy Wrote:  

(11-17-2016 02:31 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  

(11-17-2016 01:34 PM)RutgersGuy Wrote:  

(11-17-2016 06:05 AM)rednblackattack Wrote:  

(11-16-2016 11:09 PM)RutgersGuy Wrote:  So now you all have spun it to where Wake owes Louisville an apology? hahahahahaha

I bet it angers you so much to see Louisville and West Virginia being highly successful in their respective leagues. Rutgers is an absolute embarrassment and in no way should be labeled a P5 team. Cash your Big Ten welfare check and be grateful for it.

It's too bad we hired someone from Louisville and they set our athletic program back.

So funny how quickly you forget about the Steve Kragthorpe era and how quickly Louisville can be at the bottom of the barrel. Better hope Petrino doesn't leave you again.

What are you ranked Nationally and how is the Big 10 working for you?

Academically? Higher than the second most popular school in the state of Kentucky. The Big Ten is a great conference and we love being there. I mean whats not to love about getting some of the biggest names in college football coming to your house every other year. Michigan, Michigan State, Penn State and THE Ohio State. I mean thats pretty cool. Playing those teams and getting paid waaaaaaay more than we would if we were in the ACC will help us in the long run. Just enjoy Petrino while you can. He tends to have wandering eyes.

Good for Rutgers but money does not equal performance on the field. Please see IU, Purdue, Illinois, UK, Kansas, Duke.

Same as it ever was but y'all getting paid more. Good for y'all. You should not comment on a winning athletic program however. You have no idea what it's like.

Go academics!

Rutgers 2014
at Ohio St Loss 56-17
at Nebraska Loss 42-24
vs Wisconsin Loss 37-0
at Michigan St Loss 45-3

Rutgers 2015
vs Ohio St Loss 49-7
at Wisconsin Loss 48-10
at Michigan Loss 49-16
vs Nebraska Loss 31-14

Rutgers 2016
at Ohio St Loss 56-0
vs Michigan Loss 78-0
vs Illinois Loss 24-7
at Michigan St Loss 49-0

Big 10 must be proud

I honestly don't get the Rutgers hate in this thread.

(11-17-2016 05:03 PM)CardinalZen Wrote:  I honestly don't get the Rutgers hate in this thread.

Agree! no reason to hate on Rutgers for trying as hard as they can on the athletic front. Same for BC who is actually a better overall athletic program.