(11-21-2016 03:01 PM)John52168 Wrote:  

(11-21-2016 02:41 PM)ilovegymnast Wrote:  I just realized that it is possible for Oklahoma State to play WMU in the cotton bowl. It is a slim chance for the matchup but we can all hope for it. How awesome would it be to watch them lose to two MAC schools in the same year.

Not just two MAC schools, but two directional Michigan schools.

Is "central" really a direction?

Really, "western" and "eastern" aren't directions either. "West" and "East" are.

And... just saw another article on this issue.

http://www.hustlebelt.com/2016/11/21/137...ops-bedlam

Quote:He’s talking about his conference hiring a lawyer. To be clear, Oklahoma State head football coach Mike Gundy thinks that the Big 12 conference should hire a lawyer to award his team a win. It’s disappointing and discouraging that a man who so confidently wears the hair that he does is unable to properly process failure, and his inability to move on from a game that was played more than two months ago only adds to the Oklahoma State humiliation. But much like the friend who will double down that the girl who left you wasn’t worth it, Gundy has some support.

Hmm... a man with a big mouth, with silly hair, who doesn't believe in facts, and is threatening to sue people....

Sounds oddly familiar.....

Sorry! I know I should keep politics to the spin room, but I just thought the comparisons were entertaining.

(11-22-2016 03:21 PM)BobcatEngineer Wrote:  

Quote:He’s talking about his conference hiring a lawyer. To be clear, Oklahoma State head football coach Mike Gundy thinks that the Big 12 conference should hire a lawyer to award his team a win. It’s disappointing and discouraging that a man who so confidently wears the hair that he does is unable to properly process failure, and his inability to move on from a game that was played more than two months ago only adds to the Oklahoma State humiliation. But much like the friend who will double down that the girl who left you wasn’t worth it, Gundy has some support.

Hmm... a man with a big mouth, with silly hair, who doesn't believe in facts, and is threatening to sue people....

Sounds oddly familiar.....

Sorry! I know I should keep politics to the spin room, but I just thought the comparisons were entertaining.

A very slippery slope. We do have a spin room for such. Please keep it there.

I really hope the MAC can sue and go to court also for all the games taken from them by bad calls in P5 games. Two that stand out to me that should go to court immediately would be NIU @ Wisconsin in 2002 and a few years ago Toledo @ Ohio St. Both of those games decided by poor calls.

(11-23-2016 10:12 AM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  I really hope the MAC can sue and go to court also for all the games taken from them by bad calls in P5 games. Two that stand out to me that should go to court immediately would be NIU @ Wisconsin in 2002 and a few years ago Toledo @ Ohio St. Both of those games decided by poor calls.

And Toledo vs. Syracuse. Those are just the most obvious ones.

(11-23-2016 10:19 AM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(11-23-2016 10:12 AM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  I really hope the MAC can sue and go to court also for all the games taken from them by bad calls in P5 games. Two that stand out to me that should go to court immediately would be NIU @ Wisconsin in 2002 and a few years ago Toledo @ Ohio St. Both of those games decided by poor calls.

And Toledo vs. Syracuse. Those are just the most obvious ones.

Ah yes!! Looks like the court system will be backlogged for awhile

So heard this news story on the radio today. An Illinois high school football game is being challenged in court today because of an incorrect untimed down call that led to suing team losing. Sounds pretty familiar.

http://wgntv.com/2016/11/23/fenwick-high...ball-game/

^^^^^ The problem with this is, you could sue for any play the refs should or shouldn't have done, throughout the WHOLE GAME. Because any 1 play in the game can make the difference -- it's just the last plays that our human eyes interpret as the only "true decider".

The only thing I could see truly suing for that'd bear any weight would be the refs Purposely doing something shady (at Any point in any game).

(11-23-2016 02:54 PM)toddjnsn Wrote:  ^^^^^ The problem with this is, you could sue for any play the refs should or shouldn't have done, throughout the WHOLE GAME. Because any 1 play in the game can make the difference -- it's just the last plays that our human eyes interpret as the only "true decider".

The only thing I could see truly suing for that'd bear any weight would be the refs Purposely doing something shady (at Any point in any game).

Yeah, I agree. Only reason I posted was because of the shocking similarities.

(11-23-2016 03:54 PM)kreed5120 Wrote:  

(11-23-2016 02:54 PM)toddjnsn Wrote:  ^^^^^ The problem with this is, you could sue for any play the refs should or shouldn't have done, throughout the WHOLE GAME. Because any 1 play in the game can make the difference -- it's just the last plays that our human eyes interpret as the only "true decider".

The only thing I could see truly suing for that'd bear any weight would be the refs Purposely doing something shady (at Any point in any game).

Yeah, I agree. Only reason I posted was because of the shocking similarities.

Can you sue the coach for being too dumb to know not just one rule (yes it's intentional grounding, even on the supposed last play of the game) ...

but two (he could still 'win' because loss of down means the other team doesn't get the ball) ...

along with failing to defend a Hail Mary play that 99 times out of 100 is successful only because the defense screws up.

BTW, the officials were reprimanded and suspended without pay ...

Was Mike Gundy reprimanded and suspended without pay ... I mean, HE CAUSED THIS MESS ???

(11-23-2016 06:13 PM)cleveland Wrote:  

(11-23-2016 03:54 PM)kreed5120 Wrote:  

(11-23-2016 02:54 PM)toddjnsn Wrote:  ^^^^^ The problem with this is, you could sue for any play the refs should or shouldn't have done, throughout the WHOLE GAME. Because any 1 play in the game can make the difference -- it's just the last plays that our human eyes interpret as the only "true decider".

The only thing I could see truly suing for that'd bear any weight would be the refs Purposely doing something shady (at Any point in any game).

Yeah, I agree. Only reason I posted was because of the shocking similarities.

Can you sue the coach for being too dumb to know not just one rule (yes it's intentional grounding, even on the supposed last play of the game) ...

but two (he could still 'win' because loss of down means the other team doesn't get the ball) ...

along with failing to defend a Hail Mary play that 99 times out of 100 is successful only because the defense screws up.

BTW, the officials were reprimanded and suspended without pay ...

Was Mike Gundy reprimanded and suspended without pay ... I mean, HE CAUSED THIS MESS ???

Well I think it's dumb to waste taxpayers dollars over suing for a sporting event, particularly at the high school level. Officials are a human element to the game and therefore aren't always perfect. The people that ***** about a call not going their way are the same ones who if the shoe was on the other foot wouldn't forfeit the win so why should they expect someone else to? The fact a game in September is still being complained about at the end of November is ridiculous in itself.

For the record the judge withheld the officials call.

(11-24-2016 12:23 PM)kreed5120 Wrote:  .For the record the judge withheld the officials call.

Withheld or upheld? Big difference there.

Upheld. The game stands as it was.

Quote:Upheld. The game stands as it was.

As it should be. Maybe these teams and their coaches need to take a lesson in class and sportsmanship from former Detroit Tigers pitcher Gallaraga and umpire Jim Joyce I sstill say Gallaraga is the first pitcher to ever throw a 28 out perfect game.

I can't believe it was even challenged at this point. It wasn't even close to a WTF. It was a FLAWED, NEW rule that they didn't initiate -- nor did OKSt coach even come close to challenging it or informing the refs about said flawed new rule -- where the hole in said new rule would have allowed, in that instance, for a team to end a game on a penalty against themselves. That rule was Not intended for that, as it's against the spirit of the game, and the rule not initiated will most likely be corrected on the books at some point... so OKSt had NO reason weeks later AFTER the game to call shenanigans. The refs made the technical mistake of not enforcing an mistaken rule that goes against fair play for which it wasn't intended. But yes, it's still a mistake by the refs to not apply said newer rule, whether it's a flawed rule or not. But refs make mistakes all the time that Instead Go Against the spirit of the game -- so geez OKSt fans, cry me a river.

CMU's 1 play given was completely fair & unflawed, which won them the game. The call of not implementing that new flawed rule did not win CMU the game. It ALLOWED another play to happen, where it was a 1% chance of scoring, and the play in and of itself, that won them the game, inarguably, was executed 100% legally.

A much more legitimate gripe would be a final play of a game where the PLAY executed was falsely called as incomplete when complete, or falsely called as complete when it was incomplete. None of that happened or was as bad as that. OKSt has no reason to legally gripe.

Hey Mike Gundy, your Oklahoma State Cowboys aren't a 1 loss team, they are a 3 loss team!!!

(12-03-2016 04:08 PM)Rocket A Wrote:  Hey Mike Gundy, your Oklahoma State Cowboys aren't a 1 loss team, they are a 3 loss team!!!