The one part I agree with Bison about is that while there is nothing wrong with scheduling FCS games late in the season (as mentioned before it means you have ore tough games earlier in the season), FCS schools do have even less of a chance to win late in the season. For example I was watching Kentucky play Austin Peay for a bit this past weekend, and they were talking about how many injuries they had. They were missing something like 9 starters. Injuries and depth hurt G5 teams more than P5 teams since depth is where most cannot compete. With FCS teams it's even worse not only because they lack depth, but they also have significantly less scholarship players, making the games (generally) even more lopsided.

Granted with the exception of certain powerhouse FCS schools or the patsiest of P5 schools, FCS school don't have much a chance of beating the P5 teams anyway. But playing them late in the season does reduce even the minimal chance they will win. Yeah Florida lost to one a couple of years back, but that just says more about them that year than anything. So for that, and only that reason, he has a point.

(11-22-2016 09:05 AM)adcorbett Wrote:  The one part I agree with Bison about is that while there is nothing wrong with scheduling FCS games late in the season (as mentioned before it means you have ore tough games earlier in the season), FCS schools do have even less of a chance to win late in the season. For example I was watching Kentucky play Austin Peay for a bit this past weekend, and they were talking about how many injuries they had. They were missing something like 9 starters. Injuries and depth hurt G5 teams more than P5 teams since depth is where most cannot compete. With FCS teams it's even worse not only because they lack depth, but they also have significantly less scholarship players, making the games (generally) even more lopsided.

Granted with the exception of certain powerhouse FCS schools or the patsiest of P5 schools, FCS school don't have much a chance of beating the P5 teams anyway. But playing them late in the season does reduce even the minimal chance they will win. Yeah Florida lost to one a couple of years back, but that just says more about them that year than anything. So for that, and only that reason, he has a point.

Even if granted (and I'm not sure it is - is the gap between Alabama's second stringers and Chattanooga's second stringers really any greater than the gap between their starters?), that is a really teeny, tiny, point. Not worth making, really.

(11-22-2016 09:54 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(11-22-2016 09:05 AM)adcorbett Wrote:  The one part I agree with Bison about is that while there is nothing wrong with scheduling FCS games late in the season (as mentioned before it means you have ore tough games earlier in the season), FCS schools do have even less of a chance to win late in the season. For example I was watching Kentucky play Austin Peay for a bit this past weekend, and they were talking about how many injuries they had. They were missing something like 9 starters. Injuries and depth hurt G5 teams more than P5 teams since depth is where most cannot compete. With FCS teams it's even worse not only because they lack depth, but they also have significantly less scholarship players, making the games (generally) even more lopsided.

Granted with the exception of certain powerhouse FCS schools or the patsiest of P5 schools, FCS school don't have much a chance of beating the P5 teams anyway. But playing them late in the season does reduce even the minimal chance they will win. Yeah Florida lost to one a couple of years back, but that just says more about them that year than anything. So for that, and only that reason, he has a point.

Even if granted (and I'm not sure it is - is the gap between Alabama's second stringers and Chattanooga's second stringers really any greater than the gap between their starters?), that is a really teeny, tiny, point. Not worth making, really.

And Austin Peay is winless. How much difference will injuries make when your starters couldn't win a game.

(11-21-2016 08:29 PM)Gamecock Wrote:  I guess Minnesota likes playing FCS teams and scheduling byes in September because it gives them a competitive advantage?

It's a by far bigger advantage to play the FCS in week 12, than in weeks 1-4.

And an unfair advantage, given that none of the other P5 do it. That's the point. If Big Ten, PAC, Big 12, ACC teams were all playing low end games in Week 12, this thread wouldn't exist.

(11-22-2016 11:49 AM)MplsBison Wrote:  

(11-21-2016 08:29 PM)Gamecock Wrote:  I guess Minnesota likes playing FCS teams and scheduling byes in September because it gives them a competitive advantage?

It's a by far bigger advantage to play the FCS in week 12, than in weeks 1-4.

And an unfair advantage, given that none of the other P5 do it. That's the point. If Big Ten, PAC, Big 12, ACC teams were all playing low end games in Week 12, this thread wouldn't exist.

Who did UNC play last week?

1 vs 8????? Nice try.

And to the point: UNC being an exception doesn't prove that all P5 should play FCS teams during week 12!

You can't possibly believe that.

well the committee has shown that it just doesn't matter. They look at the data points as a whole. Your entire season matters.

There are no examples yet where it could've mattered.

And why is the CFP the ideological clearinghouse for this point??

I don't care. No P5 teams should have byes or play non-conf games in weeks 12 and 13 except obvious acceptable exceptions (USC/Stanford v Notre Dame and Utah/BYU).

(11-22-2016 12:36 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  And why is the CFP the ideological clearinghouse for this point??

I don't care. No P5 teams should have byes or play non-conf games in weeks 12 and 13 except obvious acceptable exceptions (USC/Stanford v Notre Dame and Utah/BYU).

This is past tedious. Closed.